Eh what the hell...UPDATED WITH CARD IN COMPUTER

[Zebo]

Not to mention a GT still loses in price/performance.

Oh and bitpower you can not compare overclocks you see with GT's. Next time you see a high OC claimed be sure and ask what type of exotic cooling they are using...more cost still.

 

[ronach]

The actual number of people who O/C their vid cards is minimal compared to those that just buy their cards and USE them. Those that get all fired up about this stuff are in the minority but the most vocal. You guys/gals go buy your overpriced hopped up vid systems, the rest of us in this case will get an under-clocked, ULTRA quality card and enjoy the heck out of it. Mine will be here today and I will not be posting my O/C limits, obviously. You know, I can't really see how some folks can step up and take credit for an O/C when it is basically [ the luck of the draw ], now, if they actually designed and built their own vid cards from scratch and it O/Ced well, that would be something to crow about to others, otherwise, it's just, your rabbits foot is bigger than mine, you get what I'm sayin.

 

[Bitpower]

I agree that it is a great value card for the price.

All I was saying was if your an overclocker (which i am), then you might want to look elsewhere. Since these limited evga cards have been tested by the manufacturer as not being able to run at a higher clock frequencies, so that is why they downgraded them.

Also you are taking a risk of getting a card with only 12 valid pipelines, but so far nobody has gotten one like that. But its worthy to note that on the .pdf specification file on evga's web site that they list this card as having 12 pipelines. So there is a risk that there are some out there that only have 12 (but apparently most have 16 pipelines). You can't complain though if you do get one shipped to you that has only 12 pipelines, since that is what you purchased

Sincerely,
Bitpower

 

[Killrose]

This card actually is starting to loose some of its shine. I guess as long as you can get stock GT speeds from the core it does have the price and features to make it a great deal, but if your not willing to OC, then just get a GT.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Killrose
This card actually is starting to loose some of its shine. I guess as long as you can get stock GT speeds from the core it does have the price and features to make it a great deal, but if your not willing to OC, then just get a GT.

This card is still the best deal, period. No one has got one that isn't 16/6 325/1100 out of the box. I'll guarantee you can't tell the difference in use between this and a normal GT 16/6 350/1000.

$325 for a GT with a better board and cooling is stellar.

 

[Bitpower]

You can pick up a GT for $350 sometimes, and that is only $25 higher in price then this card.

Also I like the cooler on the Leadtek GTs, they come with a pure copper heatsink. They sometimes sell for a reasonable price on ebay, if you are willing to take the time to shop around.

But the reason I said something in the first place here was about overclocking. While if you look only at the "stock speeds" of the cards, then this card is a good deal and is almost a GT. But if you look at the ability to overclock, then its more likely then not that a regular GT will be able to overclock higher then this evga limited edition card.

Now I am not saying it isnt a good deal. But myself, I would rather try to search around and find a $350 dollar GT and then overclock it, and if I am lucky I will get a GT that can overclock to some number between 420 and 450 on the core.

This limited edition will usually not overclock better then 400, and didn't someone post a message on this thread earlier that they had one of these cards burn out of them when overclocking it? So I would be concerned about overclocking this card.

Sincerely,
Bitpower

 

[Killrose]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Killrose
This card actually is starting to loose some of its shine. I guess as long as you can get stock GT speeds from the core it does have the price and features to make it a great deal, but if your not willing to OC, then just get a GT.

This card is still the best deal, period. No one has got one that isn't 16/6 325/1100 out of the box. I'll guarantee you can't tell the difference in use between this and a normal GT 16/6 350/1000.

$325 for a GT with a better board and cooling is stellar.

True, you probably would not notice any difference in game between this and a GT, but the card is priced right IMHO

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Killrose
This card actually is starting to loose some of its shine. I guess as long as you can get stock GT speeds from the core it does have the price and features to make it a great deal, but if your not willing to OC, then just get a GT.

This card is still the best deal, period. No one has got one that isn't 16/6 325/1100 out of the box. I'll guarantee you can't tell the difference in use between this and a normal GT 16/6 350/1000.

$325 for a GT with a better board and cooling is stellar.

My sentiments exactly. I convinced a buddy to come aboard and I jsut as well might as well.

 

[skene]

After reading the posts on here I decided I'll jump in on this thing too. I've been looking to replace my blazingly fast radeon 7500 for a while and since i've recently gotten a 2100fp I wanted something that'll run games well at 1600x1200. Compared to the other cards out there, this is definetly one of the best price/performance cards I can find. Thanks for the tip guys.

 

[Wag]

Someone claims to have received a card with DDR1.

surprised,10/17/2004 1:16:07 PM
256mb of ddr1 and a standard model 6800 otherwise. there's no gddr3 on mine! oh well...

Now it says on the page SPECIFICATIONS SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE, but this is a pretty big change.

If we do indeed get DDR1 boards I'm not sure what to do at that point. The page still clearly says DDR3 as does eVGA's specs.

 

[Kovie]

Evga's specification sheet lists them all as having DDR3. I could understand them not all having their pipes, but the memory is official.


http://www.evga.com/products/m...8-N347-AX&tab=feat

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Wag
Well, there would probably be some failures in the batch just because the cards are failures themselves. I doubt eVGA runs these cards for a long time before slapping the "LE" label over the "ULTRA".

They probably just run the basic stress test at the Ultra speeds and if it fails the do the 6800 test and just put it in the box.

Still, it looks like a good deal. Newegg specifically says they'll only replace this card, not refund.

They owe this loser nothing, which I'm hoping he'll get now that newegg is aware of his stupidity.

They don't owe him anything, but I'd still base a decision off of whether the card died or not from an overclock. I had NEVER had a video card die from an overclock, period. Voltmods, sure. Botched water cooling, sure. But from opening the CP and flipping some dials? Hell no. If the card is going to die when people overclock it, there is a significant problem, especially with an ultra heatsink on it.

Does sound like a good deal, I'd love to get one and pelt it but the throttling is annoying, and cold kills some 6800 cards (at least 2 I know have died from freezing).

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: remagavon
Does sound like a good deal, I'd love to get one and pelt it but the throttling is annoying, and cold kills some 6800 cards (at least 2 I know have died from freezing).

we already know how to get around the throttling.
(my 5900 is throttle free, same can be done for the 6800s)

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Wag
Well, there would probably be some failures in the batch just because the cards are failures themselves. I doubt eVGA runs these cards for a long time before slapping the "LE" label over the "ULTRA".

They probably just run the basic stress test at the Ultra speeds and if it fails the do the 6800 test and just put it in the box.

Still, it looks like a good deal. Newegg specifically says they'll only replace this card, not refund.

They owe this loser nothing, which I'm hoping he'll get now that newegg is aware of his stupidity.

They don't owe him anything, but I'd still base a decision off of whether the card died or not from an overclock. I had NEVER had a video card die from an overclock, period. Voltmods, sure. Botched water cooling, sure. But from opening the CP and flipping some dials? Hell no. If the card is going to die when people overclock it, there is a significant problem, especially with an ultra heatsink on it.

Does sound like a good deal, I'd love to get one and pelt it but the throttling is annoying, and cold kills some 6800 cards (at least 2 I know have died from freezing).

Unfortunately remagavon, there is no way of knowing whether it died from OCing or not. (unless you're some kind of engineer that can examine chips for electromigration)

So even though you've probably OCd about .0000000000000000000000000000000000001% of all chips that have been OCd, I can't consider your statement as having any merit.

(no offense intended, just pointing out your experience is "sand on the beach" and not generalizable)

 

[THUGSROOK]

core OCing really shouldnt be an issue ~ due to throttling.

 

[Killrose]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
core OCing really shouldnt be an issue ~ due to throttling.

So there is some sort of overheat protection in nVidia's bios/software that throttles the core?

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: Killrose

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
core OCing really shouldnt be an issue ~ due to throttling.

So there is some sort of overheat protection in nVidia's bios/software that throttles the core?

yes, and if its anything like the 5900s ~ it works very very well.


advise for running 6800 cards~
use a 500+W psu
raise vagp to 1.65v (motherboard vagp)

these cards use alot of power ~ and i mean ALOT OF POWER! :Q

not enough juice could fry them...... easily

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Killrose
This card actually is starting to loose some of its shine. I guess as long as you can get stock GT speeds from the core it does have the price and features to make it a great deal, but if your not willing to OC, then just get a GT.

This card is still the best deal, period. No one has got one that isn't 16/6 325/1100 out of the box. I'll guarantee you can't tell the difference in use between this and a normal GT 16/6 350/1000.

$325 for a GT with a better board and cooling is stellar.

rollo, whats this better cooling you are talking about? i know about 12 people with the BFG with the "crappy" HSF, all of who have theirs atleast @ ultra speeds, most above ultra speeds, and none have any sort of heat issue.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: shady06
rollo, whats this better cooling you are talking about? i know about 12 people with the BFG with the "crappy" HSF, all of who have theirs atleast @ ultra speeds, most above ultra speeds, and none have any sort of heat issue.

AFAIK it's a 2-slot design as opposed to 1-slot on the GT. He's right, it's a better cooling solution, except it takes up an extra slot.

 

[Killrose]

Has anyone seen this card available anywhere else? Like a Fry's or BestBuy or is this a Newegg only deal?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Killrose
This card actually is starting to loose some of its shine. I guess as long as you can get stock GT speeds from the core it does have the price and features to make it a great deal, but if your not willing to OC, then just get a GT.

This card is still the best deal, period. No one has got one that isn't 16/6 325/1100 out of the box. I'll guarantee you can't tell the difference in use between this and a normal GT 16/6 350/1000.

$325 for a GT with a better board and cooling is stellar.

rollo, whats this better cooling you are talking about? i know about 12 people with the BFG with the "crappy" HSF, all of who have theirs atleast @ ultra speeds, most above ultra speeds, and none have any sort of heat issue.

I think it's inaccurate to say any stock GT HSF is better than the stock Ultra HSF Shady. Ultra HSF + Ultra PCB = one very high quality 6800.

Wasn't there some complaint when BFG switched HSF design on their GTs a while back?

 

[Glyphic]

I have an antec 430 truepower psu, you think it will be enough? I have a p4 ghz, on a p4p800e delx, watercooling (12 v pump) and dual 120 mm fans, 3 case fans, 1 serial ata driver, one pata, one cdrom. Will my pus be enough? I've fried a mobo before due to not enough voltage, hate to have it happen to a more expensive vid card

 

[ronach]

Got my card today, installed like a breeze, all 16 pipes and fast ram included. I'm useing an Antec 430 pwr supply with no problem. No O/C of course, as is this card does the job. You know, could it be that all these great cards have been released at this time, just before the holiday season in order to thwart the sales of the competition. Great marketing idea, promote that man/women. Anyhoo, happy gamer here.

Glyphic, You are running more fans and stuff than I, I have 2 hard drives and 1 cdrw, no case fans, my case is always left wide open. It's your call on the 430 truepwr.

 

[Azndude51]

can some more people provide some 3dmark scores? possibly at the stock speeds and 16/6.

 

[JaredExtreme]

This is definitely tempting. That cooler looks LOUD though. Would have to replace it with one of those NV5 Silencers.