Man what a difference IN FORUMS as I posted at ????? video card area to be careful with your cards they do not have anymore and they are forcing you to pay more for a GT and I am getting blasted that this is much better deal and get this a FAIR DEAL AND I SHOULD STOP CRYING ABOUT IT. They say you only paid 350.00 for a GT now which is better LOL and eVGA is doing the right thing and one of the people has a 6800 limited edition and says it is common practice to replace across with egual cards and another says you should get the 128 mg version with 8 pipes as that is all you paid for.