El Salvador teaches pro choicer lesson on killing innocents

PokerGuy

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That is truly bizarre and stupid. The fetus has 0 chance of actually becoming a viable human being, yet they are (probably) sentencing the mother to death to carry the non-viable fetus to term.

Seriously messed up.
 

KMFJD

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Skitzer

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Is there a reason why the woman cannot leave the country and go somewhere to get the help she needs?
 
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Is there a reason why the woman cannot leave the country and go somewhere to get the help she needs?

Other than most 20 year old single mothers probably can't afford to travel and pay for medical procedures and the possible stays in hospital?
 

momeNt

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We will never find out if a baby can be born and viable without a brain if we do not make mother's give birth to them. So I encourage strict sentencing under these circumstances.
 

Smoblikat

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We will never find out if a baby can be born and viable without a brain if we do not make mother's give birth to them. So I encourage strict sentencing under these circumstances.

I agree, we have also never found out if someone can survive in a volcano wearing only the top half of a watermelon, I volunteer all the liberals to test it out
 

nehalem256

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The mother of one, who goes by the name Beatriz to protect her identity, risks losing her life and that of her unborn baby, because of El Salvador's strict anti-abortion laws.

Am I the only one that sees something wrong with this statement.
 

lagokc

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Attention all Catholics reading this: PLEASE STOP BEING CATHOLIC

Stop giving money to the Church, it will be used for evil. Stop going to mass. Stop believing that Church fathers have any sort of wisdom or are authorities on any topic whatsoever relevant to the real world.

Thank you.

PS George Carlin says it best - it's not pro-life, it's anti-woman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qtlvr6LLV8
 
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zinfamous

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Hell, plenty of people here want to drag us back to the 1960's as well. Good thing that won't be happening.
 

Sonikku

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Attention all Catholics reading this: PLEASE STOP BEING CATHOLIC

Stop giving money to the Church, it will be used for evil. Stop going to mass. Stop believing that Church fathers have any sort of wisdom or are authorities on any topic whatsoever relevant to the real world.

Thank you.

Spare us your unending war on Christianity you filthy liberal.
 

nehalem256

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Attention all Catholics reading this: PLEASE STOP BEING CATHOLIC

Stop giving money to the Church, it will be used for evil. Stop going to mass. Stop believing that Church fathers have any sort of wisdom or are authorities on any topic whatsoever relevant to the real world.

Thank you.

PS George Carlin says it best - it's not pro-life, it's anti-woman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qtlvr6LLV8

And start giving your money to feminists who cannot tell the difference between a medically necessary abortion and an elective one?

And pro-life isn't anti-woman. This should be immediately obvious by the large number of women who are pro-life.
 

lagokc

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And start giving your money to feminists who cannot tell the difference between a medically necessary abortion and an elective one?

And pro-life isn't anti-woman. This should be immediately obvious by the large number of women who are pro-life.

There is no rule saying a woman can't be a misogynist. And no don't give money to feminist organizations, most of them are equally crazy. Except for the AHA Foundation but they're dealing with actually sane women's issues such as the right not to have your genitals forcibly mutilated.

There is nothing wrong with a financially necessary abortion. Allowing women to choose to have children later in life is the only known effective cure for poverty.
 

Atreus21

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Attention all Catholics reading this: PLEASE STOP BEING CATHOLIC

Stop giving money to the Church, it will be used for evil. Stop going to mass. Stop believing that Church fathers have any sort of wisdom or are authorities on any topic whatsoever relevant to the real world.

Thank you.

PS George Carlin says it best - it's not pro-life, it's anti-woman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qtlvr6LLV8

Yes, they're so evil. The thousands of soup kitchens, hospitals, schools, and charities for which the church is responsible is clearly motivated by evil.

 

drinkmorejava

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I get that it's screwed up, but if she has a 14 month old son, how can she claim this pregnancy is any more dangerous. It seems she's already declared that the risk of her getting pregnant is acceptable.
 

lagokc

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Yes, they're so evil. The thousands of soup kitchens, hospitals, schools, and charities for which the church is responsible is clearly motivated by evil.


Ah yes the ever popular "But what about all the good stuff Hitler did?" argument.

Opening a soup kitchen in no way absolves the Catholic Church of condemning untold numbers of women to bondage.

Not to mention most of those charities are more for the purpose of recruitment than actually helping people. Mother Theresa herself took donations intended to construct hospitals in India and instead built convents to treat the sick where nuns without proper medical training reused dirty needles because she cared more about the poor's souls than about their physical wellbeing.
 
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I get that it's screwed up, but if she has a 14 month old son, how can she claim this pregnancy is any more dangerous. It seems she's already declared that the risk of her getting pregnant is acceptable.

It's dangerous because she has lupus and it would have been dangerous then as well... The difference now is doctors have already determined the child has zero chance of survival. Risking your life for a healthy child is far different than for one you know can not survive and you may not.
 

nehalem256

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Opening a soup kitchen in no way absolves the Catholic Church of condemning untold numbers of women to bondage.

Oh please. If you want to see bondage try looking at men. Ever hear of conscription? Or as a more apt comparison what about all the men who are forced to support children that women CHOSE to have?
 

woolfe9998

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Ah yes the ever popular "But what about all the good stuff Hitler did?" argument.

Opening a soup kitchen in no way absolves the Catholic Church of condemning untold numbers of women to bondage.

Not to mention most of those charities are more for the purpose of recruitment than actually helping people. Mother Theresa herself took donations intended to construct hospitals in India and instead built convents to treat the sick where nuns without proper medical training reused dirty needles because she cared more about the poor's souls than about their physical wellbeing.

Valid points, but you undermine them with the unnecessary "Hitler" hyperbole. While Hitler may have done a couple good things, few would disagree that his impact was overwhelmingly bad on balance. The Catholic Church is probably more an admixture of good and bad.
 

Atreus21

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Ah yes the ever popular "But what about all the good stuff Hitler did?" argument.

Opening a soup kitchen in no way absolves the Catholic Church of condemning untold numbers of women to bondage.

Not to mention most of those charities are more for the purpose of recruitment than actually helping people. Mother Theresa herself took donations intended to construct hospitals in India and instead built convents to treat the sick where nuns without proper medical training reused dirty needles because she cared more about the poor's souls than about their physical wellbeing.

Wikipedia:

Mother Teresa founded the Missionaries of Charity, a Roman Catholic religious congregation, which in 2012 consisted of over 4,500 sisters and is active in 133 countries. They run hospices and homes for people with HIV/AIDS, leprosy and tuberculosis; soup kitchens; children's and family counseling programmes; orphanages; and schools. Members of the order must adhere to the vows of chastity, poverty and obedience, and the fourth vow, to give "Wholehearted and Free service to the poorest of the poor".

She was the recipient of numerous honours including the 1979 Nobel Peace Prize. In late 2003, she was beatified, the third step toward possible sainthood, giving her the title "Blessed Teresa of Calcutta". She was admired by many; in 1999, a poll of Americans ranked her first in Gallup's List of Most Widely Admired People of the 20th Century. However, she has also been accused of failing to provide medical care or painkillers, misusing charitable money, and maintaining positive relationships with dictators.[2][3]

Okay, so she set up hospices and homes for people with AIDS, leprosy and tuberculosis, and set up soup kitchens, children's and family counseling programs, orphanages and schools.

But she misused charitable funds.

God what an evil bitch.
 
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Okay, so she set up hospices and homes for people with AIDS, leprosy and tuberculosis, and set up soup kitchens, children's and family counseling programs, orphanages and schools.

But she misused charitable funds.

God what an evil bitch.

I agree, someone who rather than to use the money for what it was intended for (people who suffer greatly) she used the money to build convents.

Her befriending of various dictators just showed what the RCC is all about. Rape and murder all you like, as long as you support the church you're still a good man.

I also liked her excuse, that people who suffer on earth will recieve greater reward after death so why would she spend money on medication to ease their suffering.

If following Jesus example would get you to heaven then Mother Teresa is in hell.
 

SheHateMe

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I get that it's screwed up, but if she has a 14 month old son, how can she claim this pregnancy is any more dangerous. It seems she's already declared that the risk of her getting pregnant is acceptable.

She was diagnosed with Lupus and Kidney disease AFTER she got pregnant with the second child.
 

lagokc

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Valid points, but you undermine them with the unnecessary "Hitler" hyperbole. While Hitler may have done a couple good things, few would disagree that his impact was overwhelmingly bad on balance. The Catholic Church is probably more an admixture of good and bad.

If you go back over its entire history, the Catholic Church is responsible for orders of magnitude more evil than Hitler and not much more if any good.
 
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