Elder Scrolls Online release date 4-4-14

[gothamhunter]

I just got my Hero's Guide to the Elder Scrolls Online; it's pretty freaking awesome. Let me know if any of you are interested in pictures and I'll post some.

 

[CrowDog]

So after about 40hrs of play I do still love this game! But there is something that is driving me crazy...inventory management! My bank and bags are always getting full of crafting mats and consumables. Ive joined 4 guilds now so I have plenty of places to sell my armor and weapons...but it has become a chore and burden to constantly manage my inventory.

After every hour or two of questing I need to come back to town and deal with a buttload of organizing, selling, transferring mats to an alt etc., only to have the same problem a couple hours later!!

The extra bag space is too expensive and not enough....

/rant

 

[Nged72]

I CANT DECIDE IF I WANT THIS

Dark Souls 2 coming out soon and a massive backlog...but this looks good

 

[norseamd]

So after about 40hrs of play I do still love this game! But there is something that is driving me crazy...inventory management! My bank and bags are always getting full of crafting mats and consumables. Ive joined 4 guilds now so I have plenty of places to sell my armor and weapons...but it has become a chore and burden to constantly manage my inventory. After every hour or two of questing I need to come back to town and deal with a buttload of organizing, selling, transferring mats to an alt etc., only to have the same problem a couple hours later!! The extra bag space is too expensive and not enough....

that is a blessing compared to other games

 

[norseamd]

Dark Souls 2 coming out soon and a massive backlog...but this looks good

personally i would never go with a simplified gameplay like elder scrolls online or many mmos in fact over something like dark souls 2

 

[gothamhunter]

personally i would never go with a simplified gameplay like elder scrolls online or many mmos in fact over something like dark souls 2

You know, to be fair, Dark Souls (2) has pretty simplified game play.

 

[norseamd]

You know, to be fair, Dark Souls (2) has pretty simplified game play.

compared to dark souls 1?

or do you mean the mechanics have simplicity that might still allow for compexity in gameplay

dark souls can be very hard and you have to think about how you fight and you often have to wait for the right time to attack like after the enemy attacks and fails

 

[gothamhunter]

compared to dark souls 1?

or do you mean the mechanics have simplicity that might still allow for compexity in gameplay

dark souls can be very hard and you have to think about how you fight and you often have to wait for the right time to attack like after the enemy attacks and fails

I mean generally, the game play is pretty simple (for all 3). I'm not saying it isn't difficult, because a mistake can potentially kill you, but really it's just...simple.

It's not really any more "complex" than ESO, or any other MMO.

 

[norseamd]

I mean generally, the game play is pretty simple (for all 3). I'm not saying it isn't difficult, because a mistake can potentially kill you, but really it's just...simple. It's not really any more "complex" than ESO, or any other MMO.

agree

skyrim could be considered simple combat mechanics but it often works out

with dark souls the mechanics can be simple but sometimes the ways you have to figure out how to do something can involve complexity and unique implementations

with dark souls or skyrim gameplay that has simplicity can often have a lot to do when it is raw or realistic

have been playing the requiem mod

so how would you say the combat mechanics for skyrim compare with the elder scrolls online mmo

are they limited with what they can do with bandwidth

 

[fstime]

Yah, doing the level 20-23 dungeons is frankly mission impossible. The second optional boss is brutal for Elden Root. She herself isn't too difficult to damage, but she, like all the bosses there, has a big giant aoe attack that can do massive damage and 1 shot a squishie. On top of that she makes a "quicksand" pit constantly where 8 almost elite skeletons pop out of it. And she doesn't wait on summoning another pit until the previous 8 have all died. She summons them on a timer. So if your group can't kill those 8 skeletons in 60 seconds, she summons another 8. It gets brutal.

On top of that, if you are at the spot where the pit is summoned, you "sink" into the quick sand and are stunned during the duration of the summoning. Which is like 2.5 seconds. You also can't hit the skeletons during that time frame while the skeletons are coming out of the ground. The spot she summons is random. On top of that she is using spell ranged attacks that can pack a whallop too. So as the tank I'm stuck trying to keep her agro, stay out of her big aoe attack, stay out of the randomly placed instant stunning summoning pits, and try to help kill skeletons as fast as possible. All while making sure my healer is close enough to heal me when I start going down due to all the focus from my taunting and damage. As I said, absolutely brutal. We were all level 23-24 and in good gear too. Had the group with me as a sorc tank, 2 healer sorcs (that swapped to destruction staff for dps if needed or resto staff for healing), and a ranged nightblade pure dps setup. The bosses leading up to her were tough, but she was crazy. Completely overtuned for that dungeon and groups that would normally go into there.

The group finder dungeons are difficult but you cannot say they are impossible.

I have noticed most of the players you find with the grouping tool are not very bright.

I think the main rookie mistake is too many people playing in first person view instead of third person zoomed out all the way. My teammates (including the healer) were simply standing in the red circle AOE effect range instead of simple rolling or moving out of the way. Probably because your vision is so limited in first person view. On the boss you are referring to in Elden Hallow, it is simple, save enough stamina to roll out of the AOE when you get sucked in. No one knows how to position their character or roll. I beat that boss by myself after everyone else died, taking about 10-20 minutes to do so.

The next group I found, we finished the entire dungeon in one attempt.

 

[JamesV]

Any of you guys doing Enchanting?

It is hella slow to level, unless you craft and trade runes, for the deconstructing bonus from doing other peoples runes. My character name is Hak Kal if anyone wants to trade some crafted runes.

 

[MongGrel]

I personally haven't even done a MMO in awhile, I did them many, many years (EQ beta 2,3,4, DAOC, WOW, SWG(Jedi when Jedi were cool) Rift, Warhammer, Aion, and others) and tried the beta one this one and was linear per usual.

Maybe I'll give it a go again sometime, it did seem like one of the better ones I'd seen in awhile and I didn't mess with it enough to get to the PVP.

I saw they were adding PVP in LOTRO awhile back and never tried it even though I had my own guild house there away solo, I think I just burnt out on MMO's a bit over time.

But like I said more or less, ESO does look good and tried it out a bit.

 

[gothamhunter]

Hero's Guide to ESO:
http://imgur.com/a/GIBN8

 

[Nged72]

personally i would never go with a simplified gameplay like elder scrolls online or many mmos in fact over something like dark souls 2

No matter what I'm gettinG DS2

 

[Genx87]

So the best I can figure out. These jewels we pick up that add 6% armor ect are for the eventual jewel crafting?

 

[JamesV]

Heroes Guide to ESO:
http://imgur.com/a/GIBN8

Nice looking book.

Imo game companies can keep all the statues and coins and cloth maps, and put out nice books like that.

 

[norseamd]

No matter what I'm gettinG DS2

then it would only be a matter of if you think the money is worth it

 

[norseamd]

Nice looking book. Imo game companies can keep all the statues and coins and cloth maps, and put out nice books like that.

at least they had something other than that statue with the collector set

still would have been nice to have a few more random crap like cloth maps and novelty games

 

[HumblePie]

The group finder dungeons are difficult but you cannot say they are impossible.

I have noticed most of the players you find with the grouping tool are not very bright.

I think the main rookie mistake is too many people playing in first person view instead of third person zoomed out all the way. My teammates (including the healer) were simply standing in the red circle AOE effect range instead of simple rolling or moving out of the way. Probably because your vision is so limited in first person view. On the boss you are referring to in Elden Hallow, it is simple, save enough stamina to roll out of the AOE when you get sucked in. No one knows how to position their character or roll. I beat that boss by myself after everyone else died, taking about 10-20 minutes to do so.

The next group I found, we finished the entire dungeon in one attempt.

First off, your suggestion to roll out is for the first optional plant boss, not the second one. I was rolling through the second dungeon set with guild mates a second time over mumble. Same outcome. It's way over tuned for Elden Root for the necro boss. You can skip, but since the dungeon is bugged with the quest not updating, the only reason to do the dungeon is to kill all the bosses that you can.

 

[JamesV]

Put a few good hours into PVP tonight, and probably am going to cancel my sub before the next payment.

The PVP world is huge. Out of the 10 attempts trying to get with my group, 10 of those attempts ended in me getting ganked by a couple of guys sitting between my 'army' and where I spawn.

Not fun at all. I thought the 'everyone could stealth' idea would be cool, but it's not cool when highly specialized PVP DPS sit around invisible waiting to gank you. At least in Guild Wars I could see the enemy. Ten deaths, and never saw one enemy in ESO (before I was stunned on the ground with half health). Just saw flashing lightning sorc's jumping 50 feet every second, while I died trying to get my 2nd shot off.

Simply no way for me to counter this, unless I roll my own focused DPS stealth build.

/upset at how the PVP actually is, compared to how it was sold

 

[ShintaiDK]

Just wait with PvP until more people enter. Currently you are dealing with those that rushed/cheated to VR10 and you are much lower with worse gear.

Way too soon to make any conclusion.

 

[American Gunner]

I will probably never do any pvp. I just enjoy leveling and doing quests and dungeons more than fighting others.

 

[Wardawg1001]

Put a few good hours into PVP tonight, and probably am going to cancel my sub before the next payment.

The PVP world is huge. Out of the 10 attempts trying to get with my group, 10 of those attempts ended in me getting ganked by a couple of guys sitting between my 'army' and where I spawn.

Not fun at all. I thought the 'everyone could stealth' idea would be cool, but it's not cool when highly specialized PVP DPS sit around invisible waiting to gank you. At least in Guild Wars I could see the enemy. Ten deaths, and never saw one enemy in ESO (before I was stunned on the ground with half health). Just saw flashing lightning sorc's jumping 50 feet every second, while I died trying to get my 2nd shot off.

Simply no way for me to counter this, unless I roll my own focused DPS stealth build.

/upset at how the PVP actually is, compared to how it was sold

Its really not that bad. Yes, there is a lot of stealth ganking going on, but its mostly because its an extremely valuable tactic for capturing keeps. Disrupting the enemy reinforcements is critical. If you are leaving a keep that is a logical spawn point for a nearby keep that is under siege, you should expect stealth squads to be roaming the road between them. Other than that though, you will find very few stealth squads anywhere else.

Not that many people bother with stealth ganking though (relatively speaking at least). Most prefer to just stick with the zerg. And moving around in stealth is extremely slow and drains stamina fast. For these reasons, its actually pretty easy to avoid the gank squads. They will typically set up along the most direct route between keeps, usually at a choke point or some type of high ground, and they don't move around all that much. You'll catch on to their most common locations pretty quickly, and its just a matter of avoiding those spots (usually doesn't take more than 30-45 seconds to take an alternate route that swings around the gank location).

 

[JamesV]

Just wait with PvP until more people enter. Currently you are dealing with those that rushed/cheated to VR10 and you are much lower with worse gear.

Way too soon to make any conclusion.

Yea, one guy was Vet 4 and the other Vet 2. Both were lightning users.

I'd see one for a half a second, and then he'd disappear (way faster than I can stealth). Then they'd attack, I'd see them for a second, they'd use that tele forward lightning ability and disappear again, reappear for half a second casting lightning stuff, tele forward again and disappear, while I died.

Now when I say disappear, I mean disappear, they weren't behind me or behind a hill. I'm not familiar with the lightning sorc skills, but that is way OP. Coupled with them entering stealth super fast somehow, you literally could not hit them. The one time I got a stun on one of them, he tele jumped out of it and disappeared, my next attack having no target visible to hit.

I watched a lot of PVP videos of the beta, and even stealth ganking seemed possible to overcome; saw some good players turn the tables on gankers, but I never saw anything like this. No idea how'd you counter teleporting sorcs that nearly instantly stealth.

 

[Tequila]

Btw, if you have a horse either through the imperial pack or you had enough gold to buy one then don't forget to feed it! I just found out about that a couple days ago. Each time you feed it you can choose to increase either its speed, stamina or capacity. For speed it goes up 1% each time and capacity allows one extra slot. May not seem like much but it adds up every day and never goes down. Only 250g to feed it.