Elders scrolls online, don't like the idea.

[Wallywaiting]

Would anybody else just rather have another normal elder scrolls game with some online features added in(maybe something similar to gta online?) rather than a full on mmo?

I feel as if some of the magic of the elder scrolls series would be lost on a fully online game, and kind of just wish they took the route of trying to make another, better, more advanced and extensive game rather than putting time and effort into a pay as you play online game. I've never been partial to mmo's so I'm slightly biased mind you.

I love graphics and realism in graphics, (as long as they don't look like lifeless zombies) and that's something that will be lost on an mmo, a quality which I admired about zenimax's previous games. I have only played oblivion and skyrim, but after finishing the latter I felt excited for the next installment to come along. Maybe keep some of the good stuff about skyrim but add some of the things that might have been missing or lacking!

So I was really disappointed to hear that instead of making a new game they were launching an mmo version. If they wanted to do both (which I'm not sure is feasible with budget constraints) I would be perfectly happy. I personally will not be playing the elder scrolls online, will you?

 

[imaheadcase]

People play it for the MMO part..they don't want single player games is why. Most I know are playing ti for the pvp part.

 

[Wallywaiting]

Yeah I know I'm just wondering if anybody else shares the opinion that they would rather have another single player game rather than an mmo for the elder scrolls series to continue on with!

 

[Wallywaiting]

Ive watched gameplay videos and it looks and seems to feel nothing like the elder scrolls. It's just another mmo

 

[SLU Aequitas]

It's not one or the other. It's a completely different team than the one that does traditional SP Elder Scrolls games (i.e. Todd's team).

That being said, I have zero interest in the game, but since it's taking zero time away from the development of the next Elder Scrolls game, it shouldn't be a problem to you.

 

[Wallywaiting]

It's not one or the other. It's a completely different team than the one that does traditional SP Elder Scrolls games (i.e. Todd's team).

That being said, I have zero interest in the game, but since it's taking zero time away from the development of the next Elder Scrolls game, it shouldn't be a problem to you.

Oh ok! I was misinformed! Thanks for clearing it up.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I agree with you 100 percent. I don't play mmos either, but loved skyrim. I am definitely concerned that emphasis on an mmo will detract from the quantity and quality of future single player games. Even if there is a second team working on the mmo, I fear it could still draw resources away from single player games.

As an example, look at bioware. They haven't put out a quality single player game since they went the mmo route with TOR.

 

[waggy]

People play it for the MMO part..they don't want single player games is why.

bullshit.

I know many people who want single player games. the problem is they don't make as much as MMO's.

 

[Markbnj]

bullshit.

I know many people who want single player games. the problem is they don't make as much as MMO's.

Eh, I think the people who sign up for MMOs actually are looking for that multi-player experience, at least for the most part.

 

[imaheadcase]

Yah its so terrible, making a popular game like Skyrim, then letting lots of people play it with you. /sarcasm

 

[frozentundra123456]

Yah its so terrible, making a popular game like Skyrim, then letting lots of people play it with you. /sarcasm

If it is an MMO, it is not Skyrim any more. They arent making an MMO to let more people play, they are making it to make money. If they just wanted to make more people able to play together, all they have to do is add a multiplayer component to the single player game, like say Neverwinter Nights.

The developers said the same thing about TOR, how great the single player experience would be, it would be like several single player games in one, blah, blah, blah. Look how that turned out.

 

[Nintendesert]

I agree with you 100 percent. I don't play mmos either, but loved skyrim. I am definitely concerned that emphasis on an mmo will detract from the quantity and quality of future single player games. Even if there is a second team working on the mmo, I fear it could still draw resources away from single player games.

As an example, look at bioware. They haven't put out a quality single player game since they went the mmo route with TOR.

How many games do they need to put out? We know they're working on another Mass Effect and Dragon Age 3.

 

[OCNewbie]

I generally prefer a good single player adventure/experience that I can really get lost in and absorbed by over another hamster-wheel MMO.

 

[Wallywaiting]

I agree with you 100 percent. I don't play mmos either, but loved skyrim. I am definitely concerned that emphasis on an mmo will detract from the quantity and quality of future single player games. Even if there is a second team working on the mmo, I fear it could still draw resources away from single player games.

As an example, look at bioware. They haven't put out a quality single player game since they went the mmo route with TOR.

Thank you! And this was exactly my concern, putting money into a project which I think doesn't benefit the series at all expect maybe to make the developers more money. I would prefer that they put more towards elder scrolls 6 instead of wasting time on a game that really doesn't need to be even connected to the elder scrolls name! Make it seperate and hand it to another companie maybe not one known for single player fantasy games!

 

[Wallywaiting]

I generally prefer a good single player adventure/experience that I can really get lost in and absorbed by over another hamster-wheel MMO.

Totally agree with you. I don't like grinding and I never will.

 

[imaheadcase]

If it is an MMO, it is not Skyrim any more. They arent making an MMO to let more people play, they are making it to make money. If they just wanted to make more people able to play together, all they have to do is add a multiplayer component to the single player game, like say Neverwinter Nights.

The developers said the same thing about TOR, how great the single player experience would be, it would be like several single player games in one, blah, blah, blah. Look how that turned out.

Mmm don't ever go into business for yourself. Multiplayer for a game like skyrim SP would be terrible, it did not require anyone else. This lets them open more options up to players who like both. You can play ESO as SP if you want, nothing stopping you.

 

[Wallywaiting]

It's not one or the other. It's a completely different team than the one that does traditional SP Elder Scrolls games (i.e. Todd's team).

That being said, I have zero interest in the game, but since it's taking zero time away from the development of the next Elder Scrolls game, it shouldn't be a problem to you.

How exactly do you know it's taking zero time? Just because their different teams doesn't mean one won't be affected by the other... Resources aren't unlimited. They are still working inside the same company, and it's unlikely that elder scrolls 6 will be announced soon after an mmo has just been released because it would take the attention off of something they have been trying to promote for months; their mmo. So for me as a consumer it delays the release date of the of the game.

 

[Wallywaiting]

Mmm don't ever go into business for yourself. Multiplayer for a game like skyrim SP would be terrible, it did not require anyone else. This lets them open more options up to players who like both. You can play ESO as SP if you want, nothing stopping you.

I don't really understand your answer that well.. :hmm:

 

[frozentundra123456]

Mmm don't ever go into business for yourself. Multiplayer for a game like skyrim SP would be terrible, it did not require anyone else. This lets them open more options up to players who like both. You can play ESO as SP if you want, nothing stopping you.

I dont think there is a very good chance of a hybrid working like this. As I said, TOR tried to do this without much success apparently. But by definition, an MMO ultimately reqiures teaming up with others for the endgame, pvp, and raiding. Although I have no interest in an MMO, I have nothing against them for those that want to find players to play with or have friends who also play and want to team up. But an MMO and a quality single player game will always be separate and different experiences. Inevitably when you attempt to combine them, both experiences suffer.

 

[frozentundra123456]

How many games do they need to put out? We know they're working on another Mass Effect and Dragon Age 3.

Well, DA2 was a complete disaster and ME3 was absolutely, by far the most disappointing game I have ever played. So thus far they are 0 for 2, whereas a Bioware RPG used to be an assurance of a great game. I am interested in DA3 with strong reservations, and will never devote another minute to anything in the Mass Effect universe. ME3 was that disappointing to me.

 

[Nintendesert]

Well, DA2 was a complete disaster and ME3 was absolutely, by far the most disappointing game I have ever played. So thus far they are 0 for 2, whereas a Bioware RPG used to be an assurance of a great game. I am interested in DA3 with strong reservations, and will never devote another minute to anything in the Mass Effect universe. ME3 was that disappointing to me.

That's debatable, ME3 was an amazing game, right up until the ending. Even so, they missed the mark but are still churning out games. If you want to claim working on TOR lowered the quality of the game, that's another topic. It's more EA's fault or Bioware's fault for either having too aggressive a launch window or failing to stay on schedule. It's a real possibility as well that Bioware chewed off more than they could handle and couldn't figure out how to wrap it up and phoned in the ending.

At least for all of us single player RPG fans we do have Witcher 3 to look forward to, which looks amazing!

 

[frozentundra123456]

That's debatable, ME3 was an amazing game, right up until the ending. Even so, they missed the mark but are still churning out games. If you want to claim working on TOR lowered the quality of the game, that's another topic. It's more EA's fault or Bioware's fault for either having too aggressive a launch window or failing to stay on schedule. It's a real possibility as well that Bioware chewed off more than they could handle and couldn't figure out how to wrap it up and phoned in the ending.

At least for all of us single player RPG fans we do have Witcher 3 to look forward to, which looks amazing!

I dont want to derail the thread into a ME3 debate, but after investing the time and effort into 3 games, and being told how epic the ending would be and how your choices would affect it, the original ending was basically an eff you to everyone who had invested themselves into the franchise. As I said before it was absolutely, by far, the most disappointing game I have ever played. And yes, I didnt really play it for the gameplay per se. I played it for a resolution to give closure to the trilogy, which it did a terrible job of.

 

[s44]

Yah its so terrible, making a popular game like Skyrim, then letting lots of people play it with you. /sarcasm

???

The whole *point* of ES games is to be a solipsistic voyeur/explorer/god, the only living person on this big expanse.

It's literally the opposite of the MMO experience.

That's debatable, ME3 was an amazing game, right up until the ending.

There are amazing things in ME3, but pretty much the entire main storyline is a clusterfark. Kai Leng!? C'mon man.

 

[SLU Aequitas]

How exactly do you know it's taking zero time? Just because their different teams doesn't mean one won't be affected by the other... Resources aren't unlimited. They are still working inside the same company, and it's unlikely that elder scrolls 6 will be announced soon after an mmo has just been released because it would take the attention off of something they have been trying to promote for months; their mmo. So for me as a consumer it delays the release date of the of the game.

Completely different studios, there's zero distraction/resource allocation problems. If you're worried about the next TES game being delayed because of THIS game, don't. However, I would worry if they're working on Fallout IV instead. Todd's team generally releases on a 3 year cycle and hasn't worked on multiple projects at once (they have a big team, but big games take a long time), so if they're working on Fallout IV right now, then we're a good 3-5 years out from TES:VI.

Again, the studio making TES:O is COMPLETELY different from the in-house Beth dev team, they just have the same publisher.

 

[zinfamous]

Yah its so terrible, making a popular game like Skyrim, then letting lots of people play it with you. /sarcasm

It would be nothing like Skyrim. an MMO is an MMO and pretty much all of them are the same. The single player experience is usually not that great--and if it is, you end up paying way too much to experience it because you hate MMO anyway.

I think most people that loved Skyrim love it because it is not an MMO and certainly doesn't play like one. Once the goal of the design is to monetize it and turn a monthly profit, you are going to see the same old tricks month after month, just in a different setting.