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ondma

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Goddamn people are dense, or just ignorant of how our system of government works...as has been posted a few times in this thread...if it comes down to Congress deciding...each state gets ONE vote, not one vote per congressman.

The only way having the numerical majority (not state votes) in the house might be able to block a vote for Trump is that the Democrats could walk out and then there would not be a quorum. Dont know if this would prevent a vote, but it was suggested in one article I read.
 

ondma

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The Electors aren't disputed though. Except by the Trump cult, which doesn't count.
Unfortunately it *does* matter because those republican cultists can challenge the legitimacy of the elector's votes when they are tallied. I am sure they can make up a reason to dispute them. Something like the latest "there was fraud, but it was too good to detect, so Trump really won".
 

NWRMidnight

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Goddamn people are dense, or just ignorant of how our system of government works...if it comes down to Congress deciding...each state gets ONE vote, not one vote per congressman.

It's really sad when someone spouts off calling people dense when he doesn't understand what he is reading, the date it was written, and the scenario that needed to happen for it to take place, which didn't take place and doesn't exist.
 
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NWRMidnight

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Unfortunately it *does* matter because those republican cultists can challenge the legitimacy of the elector's votes when they are tallied. I am sure they can make up a reason to dispute them. Something like the latest "there was fraud, but it was too good to detect, so Trump really won".
They can dispute them all they want. It takes a majority vote of the entire House (all 535 members) to have them removed and not counted. The scenario BoomerD linked is if neither candidate receives 270 electoral votes in the election, or the House and the Senate both vote to have the disputed electoral votes removed. It won't happen. It will also be difficult to argue fraud when every case was thrown out of court, including the two in the SCOTUS.
 
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BoomerD

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It's really sad when someone spouts off calling people dense when he doesn't understand what he is reading, the date it was written, and the scenario that needed to happen for it to take place, which didn't take place and doesn't exist.

I understand what I've read...and THE DATE has no bearing on the process. The scenario...granted, it's HIGHLY unlikely to amount to much more than a kiddie tantrum at worst...but...it COULD happen that the Republicans manage to challenge the electors of the 4 or 5 states at the heart of the fraud claims...and neither candidate reach the required 270 electoral votes...triggering the House to make the decision...with each state getting one vote...not one vote per representative.


Note...I don't THINK it will happen...but it COULD...
 

esquared

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It’s over, Putin conceded the election and congratulated Biden on his victory.
Will the orance menace COVID-19 accomplice serial killer send daddy a mean tweet?

Will he have bill barr start a russian investigation?
Oh wait..........
 

ewdotson

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Goddamn people are dense, or just ignorant of how our system of government works...as has been posted a few times in this thread...if it comes down to Congress deciding...each state gets ONE vote, not one vote per congressman.
That only comes into effect in the event of a candidate not reaching 270 electoral votes. It's *not* relevant if it's just Mo Brooks and company challenging the votes. A simple majority, each representative getting a vote, shuts that down.

Glass houses and all that.
 

NWRMidnight

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I understand what I've read...and THE DATE has no bearing on the process. The scenario...granted, it's HIGHLY unlikely to amount to much more than a kiddie tantrum at worst...but...it COULD happen that the Republicans manage to challenge the electors of the 4 or 5 states at the heart of the fraud claims...and neither candidate reach the required 270 electoral votes...triggering the House to make the decision...with each state getting one vote...not one vote per representative.


Note...I don't THINK it will happen...but it COULD...

No, now you are linking another article that talks about another scenario. No it doesn't automatically go to a 1 vote per state in the house., if the electoral votes are objected, it goes to a vote in the House and Senate, and if both houses vote opposite per your new article:

"If there’s a split decision, meaning the House voted one way and the Senate voted the other, the objection fails and votes are counted as originally cast.
From there, the typical electoral count continues. If a candidate gets a majority of votes at 270, then he or she officially wins.
If nobody has a majority during the Electoral College meeting, the vote goes to the House of Representatives, with each state getting one vote"''

The ONLY time 1 vote per state comes into play is ONLY if neither candidate gets 270 electoral votes.. There is no possible way for it to happen, unless the House votes to not accept the objected votes, which would require democrats to vote that way. This is not a 1 vote per state vote, the vote to accept or reject those votes is the complete house 535 members, which is controlled by the democrats. So no, you don't understand what you are reading. You are stuck on the 1 vote per state but ignoring the road it takes to get to that point which there is no avenue for it to happen unless a democrat sides with the Republicans.
 
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And we have these trumphumpers.........................
They tried to crate their own elector slate FFS.
Fake electors try to deliver Arizona's 11 votes for Trump

""We seated before the legislators here. We already turned it in. We beat them to the game," she said. "

Ha ha ha ha. Effing morons.

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I guess they tried the same thing in Michigan too.

As the author of the article said:
"I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were a law about submitting counterfeit government documents. "

Throw the book at these trumphumpers.

Real winner there:

"One thing I will say about conservatives, is if something is wrong, and we have lost — a true loss — then we accept," she said. "We're not going to drag people through the mud and fight it. But this clearly has got issues. I saw it with my own eyes and my own research. After that hearing, I was shocked we didn't have any other marching orders."

And yep.
 

IronWing

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according to Parler Mitch is a traitor or some seem to even think this is part of the plan

"Chris" ain't wrong, Moscow Mitch doesn't give a shit who is President. If the Pres is a Rep, Mitch rams through judges; if the Pres is a Dem, then Mitch freezes judgeships until the next Rep up.

On a side note, I thought it was thoughtful of Mitch to wait until Putin to recognize Biden's win before acknowledging the win.
 
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BoomerD

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No, now you are linking another article that talks about another scenario. No it doesn't automatically go to a 1 vote per state in the house., if the electoral votes are objected, it goes to a vote in the House and Senate, and if both houses vote opposite per your new article:

"If there’s a split decision, meaning the House voted one way and the Senate voted the other, the objection fails and votes are counted as originally cast.
From there, the typical electoral count continues. If a candidate gets a majority of votes at 270, then he or she officially wins.
If nobody has a majority during the Electoral College meeting, the vote goes to the House of Representatives, with each state getting one vote"''

The ONLY time 1 vote per state comes into play is ONLY if neither candidate gets 270 electoral votes.. There is no possible way for it to happen, unless the House votes to not accept the objected votes, which would require democrats to vote that way. This is not a 1 vote per state vote, the vote to accept or reject those votes is the complete house 535 members, which is controlled by the democrats. So no, you don't understand what you are reading. You are stuck on the 1 vote per state but ignoring the road it takes to get to that point which there is no avenue for it to happen unless a democrat sides with the Republicans.

Don't dismiss the (R)'s capacity for fuckery so casually...WILL it happen, not likely...COULD it happen? Yes.

IF the Republicans manage to throw out enough votes...or there are enough "faithless electors," that neither candidate hits 270...it only takes 37 to make that happen...then the HoR gets to decide.
 

ewdotson

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Don't dismiss the (R)'s capacity for fuckery so casually...WILL it happen, not likely...COULD it happen? Yes.

IF the Republicans manage to throw out enough votes...or there are enough "faithless electors," that neither candidate hits 270...it only takes 37 to make that happen...then the HoR gets to decide.
How? How specifically will they manage to throw out electoral votes at this point?

Again, yes, they will try to dispute the votes. But what mechanism will they use to do so successfully?
 

fskimospy

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Don't dismiss the (R)'s capacity for fuckery so casually...WILL it happen, not likely...COULD it happen? Yes.

IF the Republicans manage to throw out enough votes...or there are enough "faithless electors," that neither candidate hits 270...it only takes 37 to make that happen...then the HoR gets to decide.
The electors already voted and there were no faithless electors.

The only way the Republicans can throw out even a single vote is if the Democrats agree. Can you paint me any plausible scenario where Democrats agree to re-elect Trump?
 

BoomerD

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The electors already voted and there were no faithless electors.

The only way the Republicans can throw out even a single vote is if the Democrats agree. Can you paint me any plausible scenario where Democrats agree to re-elect Trump?

Duh...faithless voters not applicable...<forehead slap> Nope, it would be VERY difficult to get both sides to agree...hell, they already rarely agree on anything...but............
 

Wreckem

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The electors already voted and there were no faithless electors.

The only way the Republicans can throw out even a single vote is if the Democrats agree. Can you paint me any plausible scenario where Democrats agree to re-elect Trump?

They won’t even get a majority of their senators to agree to toss electors. There’s now atleast 10 that won’t if not more.
 
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