Electric F-150 unveiled

[Kaido]

Not bad. They didn't butcher the design, looks like a regular old truck, so A+ there. Pricing is reasonable for what you get. Specs:

* Single body config: SuperCrew 4-door, 5.5-foot bed, dual-motor powertrain, 4WD, 775 lb-ft torque
* 3 trim levels: XLT, Lariat, Platinum (plus a commercial-oriented entry model), $40k to $90k ($10k premium over ICE)
* 230-mile battery (426 HP) & 300-mile extended battery (563 HP, with a 0 to 60 of around 4.5s)
* 8.9" ground clearance
* Independent rear suspension (new frame, no more live rear axle)

Neat features:

* 12" digital instrument cluster with upper trims getting a 15.5" touchscreen
* BlueCruise hands-free driving as part of the Co-Pilot 360 package with OTA updates
* Pro Trailer Hitch Assist steers, brakes, and accelerates a trailer & can tow 7,000 pounds with the regular battery & 10,000 with the extended
* Phone as a key
* Front trunk (frunk) is power-operated, 14.1cf, and can be hosed out. Me likely.
* Onboard scale, which can (1) measure the weight of the items in the bed, and (2) calculate the predicted range (2,000 pound payload capacity with the small battery & 1,800 with the heavier extended-range)
* Ford Intelligent Backup Power = electric generator (9.6kW power via 8x 120V & 1x 240V outlets) & can power a job site for three days while still having power left over for a 80 miles of driving
* Ford Charge Station Pro (sort of like a dryer plug for a gas generator) can use the truck to power your home for a few days (3 days for an average home on the extended battery) or up to 10 days if rationed

2022 Ford F-150 Lightning debuts with 300-mile range, priced from $53k

The new 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning electric pickup truck is packed with impressive features and capability as Ford takes aim at Tesla, Rivian an Chevy electric trucks.

www.autoblog.com

Digging the frunk:

 

[Kaido]

The 6th Day is catching up to us...touchscreens & self-driving features in the trucks:

 

[Kaido]

This picture cracks me up:

1. Imagine you're a beefy, outdoorsy dude with an electric chainsaw
2. Who happens to live in a $500k ultra-modern home
3. And a storm blows in, knocking out your power, so you need your electric chainsaw to chop up a fallen tree branch
4. So you use your $50,000 electric pickup truck to power said electric chainsaw

It's the same type of anxiety-driven marketing they use for smart-home & security systems...veeeeeeery specific use-case scenarios lol. I love it:

 

[Kaido]

Charging info:

 

[Kaido]

Ford F-150 Lightning revealed: an electric truck for the masses

Up to 300 miles of range starting at just under $40,000.

www.theverge.com

 

[Kaido]

Review time:

* Honestly, I think this truck will sell pretty well. The price isn't bonkers (relative to the high truck cost these days), the range is usable for normal driving, and it looks like, well, an F-150. Plus it has a lot of useful tech features.

* The Honda Element-esqe hosable frunk & 120V ports are amazing features, as is the 15.5" screen option. Neato.

* Wish it had an 8-foot bed option. Probably in the future.

* Dunno about towing. Towing with Teslas kills the range.

* Wish it had more range. The 500-mile Cybertruck option is killing it. But...if you're charging up every day & just use it as a normal pickup truck for home use...300 miles is plenty (on the ER battery).

* Honestly I'm pretty shocked that Ford was able to bang this out so quickly. I wouldn't have expected this truck really for like 4 or 5 more years. They said they used Ford engineers & no Rivian tech (they're invested in Rivian).

* Between incentives & financing, I bet this will sell pretty briskly. Seems like a surprisingly very smart design all around!

* I still want a Cybertruck lol

 

[drnickriviera]

Pretty surprised at the $40k price tag. Wasn't expecting that. Like the huge frunk. I knew 8' bed was a longshot, but would be nice to at least get a 6.5' bed

 

[K1052]

What I don't want to hear is "who's going to pay this much for a truck" when there is a line to fork over 55K (soon to be 65K) to Ford for a Raptor.

Conventional looks, lots of features, and very healthy range options will mean many buyers.

 

[Greenman]

The only thing I don't like about it is that it's an SUV. Pickups have 8' beds, that's where all the utility comes from.

 

[K1052]

it's an SUV

They know the vast majority of their customers.

 

[Greenman]

They know the vast majority of their customers.

I know. That's why they've completed the swing from pickup to SUV.
It's amusing to see contractors that own them at the lumber yard, as they invariably put the wrong type of racks on them as well.
I'm a tiny minority in that I actually need a pickup. I need an 8' bed, I need 6 ply tires, I need sides that are low enough to allow access to tool boxes. Those don't exist anymore. I'm going to be forced into buying a flatbed the next time.

 

[deadlyapp]

It seems like they're torn on what to do with it. The power usability, increased storage with the frunk, decent range, all seems to scream that it would be perfect for local jobsite utility, but the shortened bed really kills it for anyone who hauls building materials to site. The relatively short range also kills it for any type of oilfield work, where you can be expected to drive 300-500 miles quite regularly on a daily basis.

 

[Wreckem]

It’s aimed at the market that most trucks are sold to. The market for people who want a truck but don’t need a truck everyday.

They won’t have problems selling these. Especially at the prices they are offering. More so considering the tax rebate.

For the record I have a deposit on one. But I have had deposits on othet evs that I have canceled they didn’t live up to expectations.

Probably a base with extended range Lariat. Only if it lives up to what’s been announced.

 

[Paratus]

Need to add tesla coils up the side of the cab where vertical exhausts would go, so when some idiot rolls coal they can "Lightning Storm".

 

[Heartbreaker]

* 3 trim levels: XLT, Lariat, Platinum (plus a commercial-oriented entry model), $40k to $90k ($10k premium over ICE)

Is it though? What's the starting price of Super Crew AWD ICE?

 

[Greenman]

It seems like they're torn on what to do with it. The power usability, increased storage with the frunk, decent range, all seems to scream that it would be perfect for local jobsite utility, but the shortened bed really kills it for anyone who hauls building materials to site. The relatively short range also kills it for any type of oilfield work, where you can be expected to drive 300-500 miles quite regularly on a daily basis.

They aren't work trucks, they're SUV's. The load and towing capacity are just numbers to share with your friends when your in a dick swinging competition. The vast majority of people that own them will never come close to maxing out the stated loads.
I pull a dump trailer and have rarely hit the towing capacity of my truck.

 

[Paratus]

They aren't work trucks, they're SUV's. The load and towing capacity are just numbers to share with your friends when your in a dick swinging competition. The vast majority of people that own them will never come close to maxing out the stated loads.
I pull a dump trailer and have rarely hit the towing capacity of my truck.

Not sure I get your point

From GM (SUV) a 2021 Suburban can tow 7400-7800lbs and has a payload capacity of 1684-1884lbs
GM (Trucks) a 2021 Silverado 1500 can tow 7200-9700lbs and has a payload capacity of 1750-2280lbs
From Ford a Lightning F150 can tow 7000-10,000lbs and has payload capacity of 2000-1800lbs

There's significant overlap in both payload and towing capability of truck vs a body on frame SUV.

In some ways the Suburban is more practical in that it can cary 8 people or 2 people and full 4x8 sheet goods in the bed. Whereas any crew cab truck is going to have a limited bed size.

So if your point is the vast majority of trucks sold today aren't "work trucks" because they sacrifice bed length for passenger space I guess I agree but that's got nothing to do with the electric powertrain.

 

[Greenman]

Not sure I get your point

From GM (SUV) a 2021 Suburban can tow 7400-7800lbs and has a payload capacity of 1684-1884lbs
GM (Trucks) a 2021 Silverado 1500 can tow 7200-9700lbs and has a payload capacity of 1750-2280lbs
From Ford a Lightning F150 can tow 7000-10,000lbs and has payload capacity of 2000-1800lbs

There's significant overlap in both payload and towing capability of truck vs a body on frame SUV.

In some ways the Suburban is more practical in that it can cary 8 people or 2 people and full 4x8 sheet goods in the bed. Whereas any crew cab truck is going to have a limited bed size.

So if your point is the vast majority of trucks sold today aren't "work trucks" because they sacrifice bed length for passenger space I guess I agree but that's got nothing to do with the electric powertrain.

I never said anything about the powertrain. I was simply pointing out that most new trucks are indeed SUV's. Doesn't matter how they're powered, or what they'll tow, they simply aren't used for that. Guy's like to spout off specs "I can tow fifty three thousand pounds with this baby", but they never will.
I had an employee that had 3/4 ton diesel 4x4 with a quad cab and a short bed. Jacked up so high you couldn't see over the side of it. He was proud of his rig, and was more than a little hurt when I pointed out that he'd be better served by a Toyota Camry. The thing was absolutely useless as a work truck.

 

[Wreckem]

Is it though? What's the starting price of Super Crew AWD ICE?

There’s defiantly not a $10k premium on most of the models.

A 4x4 XL Supercrew 5.5k’ base stripper is $42k with destination.

Though I expect the base commercial lighting is more of a stripper than the base XL.

The lighting is definitely competitively priced.

 

[Viper GTS]

I'm way more impressed by this than I expected to be. I have decided to reserve just about anything interesting that comes along as soon as reservations open just because of the instant sellout and 2+ year waits that result. I had a reservation in as soon as they opened it up last night - Maybe 30s into the event I was done. Hopefully I'm reasonably early in line though people with confirmations 10+ minutes after me have lower reservation numbers so who knows.

I went into the reveal assuming I would just sort out what to buy later (this vs Cybertruck mainly) but based on what we've seen so far I will buy one as soon as my number comes up.

It's really hard to argue with the overall feature set and value. I'll probably end up with this plus a Cybertruck as the two daily drivers in the household.

Viper GTS

 

[Kaido]

Pretty surprised at the $40k price tag. Wasn't expecting that. Like the huge frunk. I knew 8' bed was a longshot, but would be nice to at least get a 6.5' bed

Particularly if they have government incentives & state rebates & stuff. I agree, at least a 6.5' bed would have been nice. The price is very unexpected.

 

[Kaido]

What I don't want to hear is "who's going to pay this much for a truck" when there is a line to fork over 55K (soon to be 65K) to Ford for a Raptor.

Conventional looks, lots of features, and very healthy range options will mean many buyers.

I need a Ford Lightning Raptor in my life!

 

[Kaido]

The only thing I don't like about it is that it's an SUV. Pickups have 8' beds, that's where all the utility comes from.

I agree. 5.5' is pretty short. Hopefully we'll see longer soon (with bigger batteries to boot!). 230 miles in a truck would give me range anxiety. Half the reason I was willing to put down a deposit on the Cybertruck is because of the 500-mile battery option.

 

[Kaido]

They know the vast majority of their customers.

It really boils down to the ideal vs. reality. People like trucks because they're macho, room, and you can throw a bunch of crap in the back. It's targeted to sell to the biggest demographic of truck buyers.

 

[Kaido]

I know. That's why they've completed the swing from pickup to SUV.
It's amusing to see contractors that own them at the lumber yard, as they invariably put the wrong type of racks on them as well.
I'm a tiny minority in that I actually need a pickup. I need an 8' bed, I need 6 ply tires, I need sides that are low enough to allow access to tool boxes. Those don't exist anymore. I'm going to be forced into buying a flatbed the next time.