Electric RC car speeds

[coolred]

Are some of those pro electric cars and trucks actually off road capable?

 

[coolred]

But yeah if you guys are able to talk me into a nicer car, which your doing a good job of. I would probablly be willing to trade all out speed for ruggedness and off road ability.

 

[coolred]

Up for more opinions

 

[Christobevii3]

Hobbytron has a chevy corvette racing one for like $50 that is 12v

 

[coolred]

I like what I see from the stampede, but does anyone else have some other opinions. The miniT also looks nice, but i wonder how well it performs off road it doesn't appear to have much groun clearance.

 

[RollWave]

Originally posted by: swtethan
20 mph is fast for a toy rc

my bros friend's nitro losi and team associated trucks did 45mph+

but i heard electrics are really fast if you spend the $$$

Yeah I have an electric team losi xx4 collecting dust in my basement that did 40 some mph. That thing was nuts.

 

[GoingUp]

1800 ft/s = 3 second miles = 1200 MPH.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

*pondering the thought of building an R/C car and taking it to the local drag strip*

 

[coolred]

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
1800 ft/s = 3 second miles = 1200 MPH.

Fixed, already pointed out by someone else, but fixed now.


Demon, is that a thought or a question? I just want something to play around with, doubt I would get into racing it professionally.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: coolred
Are some of those pro electric cars and trucks actually off road capable?

Both electric and gas cars are very capable at their designed application (but don't try to take a road car offroad, and if you take an offroader on-road, keep in mind knobby offroad tires will wear very quickly on pavement - you can buy road tires for it though. Electrics last ~10-15 minutes on a battery pack, depending on how they're driven, the weight and the gear ratio. Obviously you can have more than 1 battery pack and probably work out a charge rotation with a quickcharger, but I'm not sure if heat becomes a concern. Gas cars will go a lot longer, but the vibrations mean more maintenance, specifically tightening and retightening nuts, bolts & screws. When I used to buy the occasional r/c magazine (wow, that was over ten years back... how time flies) the on-road world record was something like 110mph. Of course this wasn't your average DIYer, but rather accomplished professional on-road oval r/c car drivers (you can make a living if you're good enough) doing super speed runs with a few battery packs chained and the tallest gear ratio they could get the car rolling with. Still, that's pretty insane... I remember reading a review of a road kit costing about a grand (sans motor) with a 2speed tranny which could go 0-80-0 in under 5 seconds. The real limit to offroad speeds is the potential of catastrophic damage to something which cost you at least a few bills.

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: coolred

Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
1800 ft/s = 3 second miles = 1200 MPH.

Fixed, already pointed out by someone else, but fixed now.


Demon, is that a thought or a question? I just want something to play around with, doubt I would get into racing it professionally.

Thought, though I'm not sure an RC car is big enough to trip the lights.

 

[troytime]

i've picked up several RTR (used) gas and electric RC cars/trucks off ebay for less than 100 bucks

a lot of times you'll get everything you need PLUS extra parts

you need to decide what you want though
on-road cars are fun and fast, but you need open and flat area to play

i like stadium trucks, they're great for on road AND off road (just gotta switch tires if you're stickin to pavement)

brands like team associated, team losi, traxxxas are good (there are other brands, these are just the ones i'm familar with)

you'll have a lot more fun with a real RC vehicle than you would with anything form the shack

 

[radioouman]

I had a Losi truck that would do 30 mph with a modified motor.

 

[vidguru83]

hey op, if you do decide to go with a hobby truck, choose your hobby shop wisely and find one that has the parts you need to repair the carnage you will do to them. ask them for some advice and theyll point you in the right direction. Just know electric= short run times of 15 minutes depending on motor. so have extra batteries on the side. Another thing ask the hobby store for any local racetracks you can go to or "bashing spots" to take it offroad. Team losi buggy or truck, or Team associated buggy or truck. RTR(ready to run) if ya dont wanna spend the first couple of hours pulling your hair out in frustration. The smaller scale Mini trucks are cool but get tossed around easily in the terrain. Check out Team Losi's Mini LST. (electric mini monster truck based on their bigger nitro powered LST) http://www.teamlosi.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=LOSB0215

 

[troytime]

the losi MINI-T is cool too, mini version of the xxx-nt (which i have)

as far as run times
my nitro losi xxx-nt rips through a tank of fuel in about 7 minutes

my associated rc10-t zips through a battery pack in 6

both do about 35mph

 

[vidguru83]

put on a mamba brushless motor and enjoy the speed!!

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: coolred
I like what I see from the stampede, but does anyone else have some other opinions. The miniT also looks nice, but i wonder how well it performs off road it doesn't appear to have much groun clearance.

the new stampede looks really nice. the old one came out probably 10 years ago or so, they've been very popular (and basically kept traxxas' doors open, seeing as how the SRT and the TRX-3 weren't very popular, even though they were more tunable and stiffer than the RC10B2 and XX). if these are anything like the old ones there will be more performance parts available for them than pretty much any other car. they also had a good reputation for durability.

 

[troytime]

there's videos on youtube of the mini-t (as well as many other vehicles)

 

[Aarondeep]

id steer clear of touring cars. They can get real fast, but finding a smooth surface to run them on is goin to be difficult. They really cant take alot of abuse.

 

[coolred]

Yeah i am not looking for a touring car. I would prefer something that can do some offroading. I have Hobbytown USA not too far away I may go check it out.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: aarondeep
id steer clear of touring cars. They can get real fast, but finding a smooth surface to run them on is goin to be difficult. They really cant take alot of abuse.

*remembers time when his tamiya went airborne at 40mph and hit a tree...

Also remembers time friend's hpi went airborne (hit one of those reflectors in the street) and destroyed itself against a car tire. Dunno how fast at the time, but his went 50+ at the top end.

Electrics can get fast and the street/touring ones look sleek and fast, but the off road ones are durable and fun. Up to you to make a tradeoff.

Here is a traxis that advertises 60mph out of the box. Yokomo has one too.

 

[funboy6942]

Cheap Traxxas Electric truck-$130
Novak 5800ss+ BRUSHLESS motor esc set up refurb from Novak.com-$150
Cheap epic 3000nimh batteries at $18 a pop
= 45+ MPH on the cheap side and a shitload of fun and 20 min+ run times.

I have two Traxxas Stampede's one is set up with a brushless (mine) and my sons has a 11TT with Nicads. I get 1 run to his 3 and will need to upgrade his soon. Plus its no challange in a race. You hit the gas and it just squats and takes off (thank god for wheelie bars to keep it planted).
Tons of hop ups for the Stampede and can take a beating. Just upgrade to bigger arms in the front. Beerings all around in and out. A Wheelie bar, and a metal idler. I have hit trees, my dog, side of my shed, my son, me, patio furniture, and my deck and I broke only one shock.

But with what ever you decide with and its electric going brushless is a must. No maint needed, no brushed to change, no comms to cut, and the same performance every single time.

MY TRUCK

 

[coolred]

Originally posted by: funboy42
Cheap Traxxas Electric truck-$130
Novak 5800ss+ BRUSHLESS motor esc set up refurb from Novak.com-$150
Cheap epic 3000nimh batteries at $18 a pop
= 45+ MPH on the cheap side and a shitload of fun and 20 min+ run times.

I have two Traxxas Stampede's one is set up with a brushless (mine) and my sons has a 11TT with Nicads. I get 1 run to his 3 and will need to upgrade his soon. Plus its no challange in a race. You hit the gas and it just squats and takes off (thank god for wheelie bars to keep it planted).
Tons of hop ups for the Stampede and can take a beating. Just upgrade to bigger arms in the front. Beerings all around in and out. A Wheelie bar, and a metal idler. I have hit trees, my dog, side of my shed, my son, me, patio furniture, and my deck and I broke only one shock.

But with what ever you decide with and its electric going brushless is a must. No maint needed, no brushed to change, no comms to cut, and the same performance every single time.

MY TRUCK

Link doesn't appear to work, maybe the site is down?

What exactly is the differance between the stampede and rustler and the mini t for that matter.

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: coolred

Originally posted by: funboy42
Cheap Traxxas Electric truck-$130
Novak 5800ss+ BRUSHLESS motor esc set up refurb from Novak.com-$150
Cheap epic 3000nimh batteries at $18 a pop
= 45+ MPH on the cheap side and a shitload of fun and 20 min+ run times.

I have two Traxxas Stampede's one is set up with a brushless (mine) and my sons has a 11TT with Nicads. I get 1 run to his 3 and will need to upgrade his soon. Plus its no challange in a race. You hit the gas and it just squats and takes off (thank god for wheelie bars to keep it planted).
Tons of hop ups for the Stampede and can take a beating. Just upgrade to bigger arms in the front. Beerings all around in and out. A Wheelie bar, and a metal idler. I have hit trees, my dog, side of my shed, my son, me, patio furniture, and my deck and I broke only one shock.

But with what ever you decide with and its electric going brushless is a must. No maint needed, no brushed to change, no comms to cut, and the same performance every single time.

MY TRUCK

Link doesn't appear to work, maybe the site is down?

What exactly is the differance between the stampede and rustler and the mini t for that matter.

Fixed link. It was working when I made it but now it is for sure.

Anyway the diff is the Rustler is a "stadium truck" and the Stamp is a "monster" truck but they share almost all the same parts. In my pic you will see that I took off the ugly (buy useful) stock tires and went more with a "real" truck look. I stuck on a old sledgehammer body (Traxxas MT from the 80-90's) and changed the wheels to smaller ones. This gives the truck IMO a real look and just jacked up high like you would see on the road. With the oem body and tires it was nice but gave it a long slender look and I didnt care for it. Also going with the Stamp over the rustler if just back yard bashing can give you many different options. You canrun it as a tall MT, how I have it (which btw handles like a wet dream), and I have seen the swami.com conversion into a low riding car (which BTW is where I got my wheelie bars)

Linkage to swami and yes the car in the upper left is a Stamp MY he converted over I am working on next. Check out the videos its one bad mofo and if you were asking if electric is fast it should answer your question.

The Mini T is just that a Mini Monster truck. if you wanna go small thats the way to go but I woudl go with the Mini Zilla. Just looks better IMO and well made but it wont be very fast at all and will need some serious hop ups. But if just starting out and want a beat em up truck with alot of hop ups rustler or stamp with a brushless set up and good Nimh (the 3000 epics I mentined are great for the price for back yard bashing) and a decent charger and you can have same gas speeds and long run times without having to always addjust the motor. And yes I have owned them both and like gas because they were fast and had long run times but ditching the stock motor and esc for the brushless and getting 20+ runtimes with gas speeds have now brought me back to electric. Its nice just poping in a battery and having fun then spending time re-adjusting the motor and the mess. Just pop and go and the same go everytime. I love it and my truck. Look at the pic and tell me I dont trash that sucker

OH and yes it says emaxx on the body because at the time I had a emaxx with a brushless set up and to be honest was boring to drive. Yes it was a damn good truck and the suspension is like nothing I have seen on a monster truck but it handled to good where it was no fun. I could run over that rut and not have to worry with it but with my stamp I hit the rut the front will come up and do a whille or something to always keep me on my toes and go damn son did you see that? That was kick ass! The E-maxx would just go back and forth with no Damn son did you see that enjoyment so I sold it. The stamp is cheaper and soooo much more fun IMO for back yard bashing.

 

[coolred]

Originally posted by: funboy42

Originally posted by: coolred

Originally posted by: funboy42
Cheap Traxxas Electric truck-$130
Novak 5800ss+ BRUSHLESS motor esc set up refurb from Novak.com-$150
Cheap epic 3000nimh batteries at $18 a pop
= 45+ MPH on the cheap side and a shitload of fun and 20 min+ run times.

I have two Traxxas Stampede's one is set up with a brushless (mine) and my sons has a 11TT with Nicads. I get 1 run to his 3 and will need to upgrade his soon. Plus its no challange in a race. You hit the gas and it just squats and takes off (thank god for wheelie bars to keep it planted).
Tons of hop ups for the Stampede and can take a beating. Just upgrade to bigger arms in the front. Beerings all around in and out. A Wheelie bar, and a metal idler. I have hit trees, my dog, side of my shed, my son, me, patio furniture, and my deck and I broke only one shock.

But with what ever you decide with and its electric going brushless is a must. No maint needed, no brushed to change, no comms to cut, and the same performance every single time.

MY TRUCK

Link doesn't appear to work, maybe the site is down?

What exactly is the differance between the stampede and rustler and the mini t for that matter.

Fixed link. It was working when I made it but now it is for sure.

Anyway the diff is the Rustler is a "stadium truck" and the Stamp is a "monster" truck but they share almost all the same parts. In my pic you will see that I took off the ugly (buy useful) stock tires and went more with a "real" truck look. I stuck on a old sledgehammer body (Traxxas MT from the 80-90's) and changed the wheels to smaller ones. This gives the truck IMO a real look and just jacked up high like you would see on the road. With the oem body and tires it was nice but gave it a long slender look and I didnt care for it. Also going with the Stamp over the rustler if just back yard bashing can give you many different options. You canrun it as a tall MT, how I have it (which btw handles like a wet dream), and I have seen the swami.com conversion into a low riding car (which BTW is where I got my wheelie bars)

Linkage to swami and yes the car in the upper left is a Stamp MY he converted over I am working on next. Check out the videos its one bad mofo and if you were asking if electric is fast it should answer your question.

The Mini T is just that a Mini Monster truck. if you wanna go small thats the way to go but I woudl go with the Mini Zilla. Just looks better IMO and well made but it wont be very fast at all and will need some serious hop ups. But if just starting out and want a beat em up truck with alot of hop ups rustler or stamp with a brushless set up and good Nimh (the 3000 epics I mentined are great for the price for back yard bashing) and a decent charger and you can have same gas speeds and long run times without having to always addjust the motor. And yes I have owned them both and like gas because they were fast and had long run times but ditching the stock motor and esc for the brushless and getting 20+ runtimes with gas speeds have now brought me back to electric. Its nice just poping in a battery and having fun then spending time re-adjusting the motor and the mess. Just pop and go and the same go everytime. I love it and my truck. Look at the pic and tell me I dont trash that sucker

OH and yes it says emaxx on the body because at the time I had a emaxx with a brushless set up and to be honest was boring to drive. Yes it was a damn good truck and the suspension is like nothing I have seen on a monster truck but it handled to good where it was no fun. I could run over that rut and not have to worry with it but with my stamp I hit the rut the front will come up and do a whille or something to always keep me on my toes and go damn son did you see that? That was kick ass! The E-maxx would just go back and forth with no Damn son did you see that enjoyment so I sold it. The stamp is cheaper and soooo much more fun IMO for back yard bashing.

I don't know, the link still seems broekn to me, tried in firefox and IE, no dice. Good info though. So if I go with the stampede are you saying I have to chage the motot to a burshless one or is that what it comes with? If I have to change it any idea what one costs and how hard it is to do?

Also how well do these things work in the grass. I have seen videos of them on dirt so I know they perform great there, but I haven't seen much of them in the grass. I have read revirews and whatnot that say they are more then capable of running in the backyard, which I assume would mean in grass. I am guessing this may shorten run times since it is probablly extra work to drive over grass then dirt, how abotu for speed, does it lose a lot when on grass? I actually live in an apartment, but right out in front of it is a big blacktopped area, so I have a nice flat hard surface like that to run on if I want(with on road tires of course)but other then that I don't really know of any dirt places to run it at, just grass.