Electricity Prices Soaring In Top Wind Power States

[moonbogg]

If they can charge more and people will pay, then why not? They would be stupid to not make as much for themselves at the expense of everyone else. The more destruction the better. It makes them feel powerful, so this is good for their emotional and mental health as well. This is a jungle we live in. The strong rape the weak, plain and simple.
People think that because we have laws, this means the laws of nature don't apply to us. The strong dominate the weak! We are people. We like to control and dominate. More for me and fuck you! That's what we are.

 

[OutHouse]

Dear Dave,

I must be the 1%, because if you take the TOP percentage increase and put it against my electric bill, I end up paying a whopping $35 a month more than I do now.

Holy SHIT. I don't know how I'd survive if my bill went up 35 a month.

to be fair, people on a fixed income that $35 extra a month turns into $420.00 annually and that is a lot of money.

 

[CPA]

Oh the ironing.

The guy who wrote that piece (which really twists the interpretation of the data) is employed by the Heartland Institute. Guess who funds the Heartland Institute....large energy companies. Their office is three blocks from mine in Chicago.

You just endorsed the "corporate thugs" you like to rant about.

OMG, that is too hilarious. That is McOwned on a new level.

 

[OutHouse]

..also turning into a maintenance nightmare. the generators / clutch / control electronics have high failure rates. the ones in my area are mostly "off line" and static for aforementioned reasons.

how do you know this? are you friends with the Vestas/GE/Siemens maint crew?

 

[brycejones]

how do you know this? are you friends with the Vestas/GE/Siemens maint crew?

IGBT would never hang out with such ECO KOOKS.....

 

[DrPizza]

I'm curious. Since that opinion piece decided to point out all the extra costs to society - i.e., "then, they have that much less disposable income to spend elsewhere," I'm wondering why they didn't include all the other costs foisted upon society? So, to be fair, I think the other costs, such as the number of birds killed by windmills (very very few, and a pittance compared to what pet cats kill). Or, any health effects those windmills have on people. AND, what are the other costs of fossil fuels used for electricity production? How much does it cost society indirectly for the pollution, extra cases of cancer, etc.?

I don't have definite numbers, but I'm rather inclined to believe, based on what I *do* know, that the end costs of fossil fuel produced electricity is much greater to society. Most of those costs are just ignored when people only examine the bill in the mail. Heck, just look at the costs to us to keep oil prices "stable" - look at what we've spent in the Middle East on wars, which may not be directly related to oil, but I think it would be a little foolish to say that none of the money we spend over there isn't directly as a result of needing to keep the oil flowing.

 

[QuantumPion]

Dear Dave,

I must be the 1%, because if you take the TOP percentage increase and put it against my electric bill, I end up paying a whopping $35 a month more than I do now.

Holy SHIT. I don't know how I'd survive if my bill went up 35 a month.

It's not just about your electric bill. Every thing you buy and every service you utilize requires energy to produce. Every one of which had to pay higher prices for that energy. Eventually it will hit you in the form of higher prices for goods and services and lower returns on your investments.

 

[Ken g6]

You know, I think you might have this whole thing backwards. Correlation != causation.

It could be that wind power causes electricity prices to rise.

But wind power is cheap. It's often the cheapest way to add new power generation. Could it be that there is simply insufficient power generation in these states, leading to both electricity price increases and the addition of new generation capacity? Then electricity companies would seek to add the cheapest, easiest new generation system they can find, which is often wind.

 

[ivwshane]

You know, I think you might have this whole thing backwards. Correlation != causation.

It could be that wind power causes electricity prices to rise.

But wind power is cheap. It's often the cheapest way to add new power generation. Could it be that there is simply insufficient power generation in these states, leading to both electricity price increases and the addition of new generation capacity? Then electricity companies would seek to add the cheapest, easiest new generation system they can find, which is often wind.

Yep, I even linked two different stories that have the reason for the price increases.

 

[Pulsar]

It's not just about your electric bill. Every thing you buy and every service you utilize requires energy to produce. Every one of which had to pay higher prices for that energy. Eventually it will hit you in the form of higher prices for goods and services and lower returns on your investments.

So will a raise of the minimum wage. But dave doesn't whine about that.

 

[Stewox]

That's because the Obama administration (boreucrats that nobody elected creating regulation) is shutting down more and more coal power plants, the ones with top notch filters which are clean as a whistle compared to the mexican neighbours and china.

This is a conseqence of the climate change hoax, happy paying those bills, idiots.

What's more? Just one of the ways the government is destroying american infrastructure and industry === JOBS; the conditions are perfect for a little thingy called OUTSOURCING, enjoy "made in china".


You still want to be or support the actions of the environmentalist trendies AKA Green Mafia ?

 

[brycejones]

That's because the Obama administration (boreucrats that nobody elected creating regulation) is shutting down more and more coal power plants, the ones with top notch filters which are clean as a whistle compared to the mexican neighbours and china.

This is a conseqence of the climate change hoax, happy paying those bills, idiots.

What's more? Just one of the ways the government is destroying american infrastructure and industry, the conditions are perfect for a little thingy called OUTSOURCING, enjoy "made in china".

Oh shut up you Russian troll. How is that part of the former Soviet Union that still glows during the day doing?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by Pulsar
Dear Dave,

I must be the 1%, because if you take the TOP percentage increase and put it against my electric bill, I end up paying a whopping $35 a month more than I do now.

Holy SHIT. I don't know how I'd survive if my bill went up 35 a month.

It's not just about your electric bill. Every thing you buy and every service you utilize requires energy to produce. Every one of which had to pay higher prices for that energy. Eventually it will hit you in the form of higher prices for goods and services and lower returns on your investments.

There is a reason I have people like him ignored.

Rich and lack of critical thinking.

 

[QuantumPion]

You know, I think you might have this whole thing backwards. Correlation != causation.

It could be that wind power causes electricity prices to rise.

But wind power is cheap. It's often the cheapest way to add new power generation. Could it be that there is simply insufficient power generation in these states, leading to both electricity price increases and the addition of new generation capacity? Then electricity companies would seek to add the cheapest, easiest new generation system they can find, which is often wind.

Wind power is cheap. Reliable electricity delivery using wind is not. Because wind is unreliable, you basically need double the capacity in the form of conventional power for when the wind is not blowing. This external cost is often mistakenly ignored.

 

[QuantumPion]

Originally Posted by Pulsar
Dear Dave,

I must be the 1%, because if you take the TOP percentage increase and put it against my electric bill, I end up paying a whopping $35 a month more than I do now.

Holy SHIT. I don't know how I'd survive if my bill went up 35 a month.



There is a reason I have people like him ignored.

Rich and lack of critical thinking.

Who are you and how did you get dmcowen's account info