Electrocution of a pastor

[ManSnake]

Electrocution of a pastor

Is God trying to tell us something?

 

[judasmachine]

Zeus is getting mad that he is no longer recognized, and this upstart Jehovah is...

 

[bdude]

Yah, don't use electric appliances when you're standing in water.

 

[Genx87]

How much juice runs through a microphone? I thought that was a low voltage device?

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Lemme guess...hmmm...God works in mysterious ways?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Genx87
How much juice runs through a microphone? I thought that was a low voltage device?

70 volts

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Genx87
How much juice runs through a microphone? I thought that was a low voltage device?

70 volts

At what ampreage? I am amazed that can do somethign like that considering how many concerts I have seen in the rain.

Maybe I should have worded it differently, arent microphones low power devices?

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Genx87
How much juice runs through a microphone? I thought that was a low voltage device?

70 volts

At what ampreage? I am amazed that can do somethign like that considering how many concerts I have seen in the rain.

Maybe I should have worded it differently, arent microphones low power devices?

I remember reading about a woman who was killed by a curling iron.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Genx87
How much juice runs through a microphone? I thought that was a low voltage device?

70 volts

At what ampreage? I am amazed that can do somethign like that considering how many concerts I have seen in the rain.

Maybe I should have worded it differently, arent microphones low power devices?

I remember reading about a woman who was killed by a curling iron.

Hehe I can believe a curling iron, that thing is plugged right into the wall and spits out some serious heat, but a microphone?

Are microphones usually battery powered?

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Genx87
How much juice runs through a microphone? I thought that was a low voltage device?

70 volts

At what ampreage? I am amazed that can do somethign like that considering how many concerts I have seen in the rain.

Maybe I should have worded it differently, arent microphones low power devices?

I remember reading about a woman who was killed by a curling iron.

Hehe I can believe a curling iron, that thing is plugged right into the wall and spits out some serious heat, but a microphone?

Are microphones usually battery powered?

No, not ones used outside a small church picnic, live microphones are deadly. espically in wet weather or conditions. A PA system's amp is very strong.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Genx87
How much juice runs through a microphone? I thought that was a low voltage device?

70 volts

At what ampreage? I am amazed that can do somethign like that considering how many concerts I have seen in the rain.

Maybe I should have worded it differently, arent microphones low power devices?

Actually they said something about low voltage electrocution. Just enough to stop a heart. IIRC

I remember reading about a woman who was killed by a curling iron.

Hehe I can believe a curling iron, that thing is plugged right into the wall and spits out some serious heat, but a microphone?

Are microphones usually battery powered?

 

[piasabird]

This sounds like an act of stupidity to me.

Water and electricity just dont mix.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Are microphones usually battery powered?

He should've been using a battery powered wireless mike.

All well live and learn, except well, not live in this case.

 

[CaptnKirk]

So, he conducted a Baptism - with all the effectiveness of a Bug Zapper ?

More power to him !

 

[IdaGno]

Originally posted by: piasabird
This sounds like an act of stupidity to me.

Sounds to me like further proof of intelligent design.

 

[Mucho]

How shocking

 

[shira]

Originally posted by: ManSnake
Electrocution of a pastor

Is God trying to tell us something?

Of course He is.

If someone recovers from cancer, the evangelicals insist that it's a sign of God's healing grace. So the fact that someone died is such a Damien-esque manner is a sure sign that God doesn't like baptisms, doesn't like preachers, doesn't like Waco, doesn't like Christianity, or doesn't like that specific church.

 

[Bitek]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Genx87
How much juice runs through a microphone? I thought that was a low voltage device?

70 volts

At what ampreage? I am amazed that can do somethign like that considering how many concerts I have seen in the rain.

Maybe I should have worded it differently, arent microphones low power devices?

Actually they said something about low voltage electrocution. Just enough to stop a heart. IIRC

I remember reading about a woman who was killed by a curling iron.

Hehe I can believe a curling iron, that thing is plugged right into the wall and spits out some serious heat, but a microphone?

Are microphones usually battery powered?

This microphone is battery powered, an it uses a 9V batt which can last upto 18hrs. So what, it uses at most 100 milliamps? You wouldn't even feel that. If that microphone is at 70v (where did you see that Dave? I saw some @ 48V) it wouldn't be pulling many (milli)amps at all. Its the amps that kill ya.

I can't really find a spec sheet that lists electrical requirement for wired microphones. This really doesn't make any sense. What I don't understand is why the Mic isn't on a fuse in the PA to prevent such a short. Potential lawsuit? Distortion maybe, but you think you could design a power supply that wouldn't have a prob. Well, they will be sure to install GFI outlets around all their baptismal tubs.

 

[tommywishbone]

I live a rather insulated life, so this type of shocking story sparks my interest and illuminates the danger of conducting religious ceremonies in damp conditions, while raising the question; watt was he thinking?

 

[Todd33]

It's not the volts that kill you, its the low resistance from the water..

 

[JTWill]

UH guys, when a Microphones kills someone the unit is not grounded properly. Either a failure of the equipment or the electrician to properly ground his work. 70 volts is at the other end in PA systems for the speakers not the Microphone. To many of you are thinking of the wrong end of an amplifier. BIG LAWSUIT COMMING, someone screwed up.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: JTWill
UH guys, when a Microphones kills someone the unit is not grounded properly. Either a failure of the equipment or the electrician to properly ground his work. 70 volts is at the other end in PA systems for the speakers not the Microphone. To many of you are thinking of the wrong end of an amplifier. BIG LAWSUIT COMMING, someone screwed up.

Yeah, I thought newer solid-state amps were generally safer (well, they probably are safe-er). Tube amps, especially ones with two-prong plugs were pretty vulnerable to this sort of failure.

In all honesty, the small extra cost of wireless is probably worth it for safety reasons if you're ever going to be hooked up to an amplifier; especially one that's outside.

used to jam on the dock at the cottage (middle of nowhere... everyone close enough to hear us was there anyway) all the time with electric guitars and microphones and stuff... probably won't be doing that again without wireless.

 

[JTWill]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: JTWill
UH guys, when a Microphones kills someone the unit is not grounded properly. Either a failure of the equipment or the electrician to properly ground his work. 70 volts is at the other end in PA systems for the speakers not the Microphone. To many of you are thinking of the wrong end of an amplifier. BIG LAWSUIT COMMING, someone screwed up.

Yeah, I thought newer solid-state amps were generally safer (well, they probably are safe-er). Tube amps, especially ones with two-prong plugs were pretty vulnerable to this sort of failure.

In all honesty, the small extra cost of wireless is probably worth it for safety reasons if you're ever going to be hooked up to an amplifier; especially one that's outside.

used to jam on the dock at the cottage (middle of nowhere... everyone close enough to hear us was there anyway) all the time with electric guitars and microphones and stuff... probably won't be doing that again without wireless.

Get yourself an alligator clip setup and tie it to the ground terminal on the amp, cliping that to the metal shell of a building or the plumbing can give you a safety margin. A good warning sign you have a problem is pops are static in your sound.

 

[Jhhnn]

The only way for something like this to happen is for two things to go wrong at the same time. Mics and mic cables are shielded, with the shield connected to the equipment chassis, which should be grounded thru the third prong on the plug. If that ground is open, and if the power supply input shorts to the chassis, then the shield, the outside of the mic, is hot. The setup guy might not notice it, if the whole place is carpeted, or if the amp was simply powered up after the mic was placed.

The fuse or circuit breaker won't save your bacon, they're too slow, but a GFCI will, which would be the only truly safe way to setup for something like a submersion baptism... a battery powered radio mic would be the best, by far...

A sad day for the preacher's family, and the guys who set up the equipment...

 

[Bitek]

Originally posted by: JTWill
UH guys, when a Microphones kills someone the unit is not grounded properly. Either a failure of the equipment or the electrician to properly ground his work. 70 volts is at the other end in PA systems for the speakers not the Microphone. To many of you are thinking of the wrong end of an amplifier. BIG LAWSUIT COMMING, someone screwed up.

UH, I think that is exactly what I said. See key words:

100 milliamps
short
GFI outlet
lawsuit

At least 1 mic manufacturer does list thier mics as 48v to "provide headroom for greater accustical accuracy" versus lower voltage settings. Again, this is irrelevant without large amperage to actually harm you.

Originally posted by: Todd33
It's not the volts that kill you, its the low resistance from the water..

Well, to be technical, pure water has incredibly high resistance. Very pure water can be on the order of 1M ohm is not higher. Its the salts and other crap that gets in water that raises conductivity. So it gues its salt that kills you.