Elementary student brings pot to school to turn in his parents

[Eli]

i didn't make the frickin law. you need to pay better attention to my responses if you are going to ride my ass about them.


yes. one can get your parent arrested. which is just what every kid yearns for.

Okay, fair enough. If you concede that this wouldn't be an issue if marijuana was legal, I agree with you. Obviously it would not.

However, you seem to want to have it both ways. Since you think it should be legal, that means you disagree with the law. As do many, many other people - including these kids' parents.

So... how does them disagreeing with the law make them bad parents, aka "not have their shit together"?

You and I both know that they could be awesome parents. Whether someone smokes marijuana or drinks alcohol has no bearing on that. If you can't enjoy your drink and be a good parent, you shouldn't drink. If you can't smoke and be a good parent, you shouldn't smoke. Like I said, bad parents are bad parents.

 

[chusteczka]

America (i.e. the Onassis family) introduced opium to China a couple hundred years ago. This drug turned a large portion of the population into useless druggies, unable and unwilling to farm. It basically disabled the entire country.

To say that it is an individual's right to consume narcotics if they choose is correct. However, if so many individuals choose to exercise that right, it can become a social problem on a large scale with significant impact on the lives of all citizens.

This is where the need for laws to restrict such socially impairing behavior become necessary.

 

[qliveur]

Once again, D.A.R.E. succeeds in duping a naive kid into turning in his parents. Score one for Ingsoc and Big Brother!

Wanna bet that kid never trusts the police again? D.A.R.E. is just as damaging to police PR as brutality and unprovoked shootings.

 

[destrekor]

Mosh, do you speed?

Did you drink alcohol or use tobacco before the legal ages?

Have you ever done anything illegal?

Have you consistently done something that is technically illegal, and plan to continue?

That's how most of us approach marijuana. Sure, it's illegal. But it's a fucking retarded law that does not deserve to be respected. Also, I don't agree with how it is in federal hands, and I don't respect it the way I respect most Constitutional laws.

I refuse to give a rat's ass about what anyone does with marijuana, and see no rhyme or reason for the harsh punishments handed out in the name of "protecting civilization against the evils of drugs", specifically in regards to marijuana. Other drugs, okay I see a clear line... but nothing makes sense about how the government regards marijuana and marijuana users.

It's been brought up almost everywhere at the state-level general assemblies, but many have refused to put it up for public vote. Many of them have voted down all bills regarding marijuana as less-than-pure-evil, under the guise of their views of yesteryear, where the government was able to spread that little "it's eeeevil" seed, and damn did they sow that one well. Now almost everyone in government remains convinced that marijuana is the seed of satan himself, and refuse to even let it go up for public consideration.
Except for California, which on this one issue, I am glad that state exists. For the foreseeable future, they are the little poster child for marijuana legalization, and are hopefully going to continue sparking open discussion across the country.

 

[destrekor]

pot is no worse than alcohol, and we shouldn't hold these parents accountable for the legality of it because of that.

i am done too. going to go watch the yankees hopefully beat the rangers. :thumbsup:

oh hell no. You're 0 for 2 now.

Go Texas!

 

[Eli]

America (i.e. the Onassis family) introduced opium to China a couple hundred years ago. This drug turned a large portion of the population into useless druggies, unable and unwilling to farm. It basically disabled the entire country.

To say that it is an individual's right to consume narcotics if they choose is correct. However, if so many individuals choose to exercise that right, it can become a social problem on a large scale with significant impact on the lives of all citizens.

This is where the need for laws to restrict such socially impairing behavior become necessary.

I don't think the part about America introducing Opium to China is correct, you got a link? China is on the same continent that Opium is native to.. lol. That really makes no sense.

Anyway, I completely agree with the rest of your post. It's still a difficult thing, though. But if we must have drugs be illegal, there needs to be some logic and reason to it. If society decides it wants to protect itself, I have no problems with that. But humans have been altering their states of consciousness since the beginning of time. Many people believe it is part of our evolution; an unavoidable desire.

It just irks me that alcohol, caffeine and cigarettes are legal and marijuana is essentially classed with drugs like heroin and PCP. LOL. It's pretty hard to argue against the absurdity of that..

 

[destrekor]

America (i.e. the Onassis family) introduced opium to China a couple hundred years ago. This drug turned a large portion of the population into useless druggies, unable and unwilling to farm. It basically disabled the entire country.

To say that it is an individual's right to consume narcotics if they choose is correct. However, if so many individuals choose to exercise that right, it can become a social problem on a large scale with significant impact on the lives of all citizens.

This is where the need for laws to restrict such socially impairing behavior become necessary.

lol Opium was in China way before America was even an idea.
Opium was used and traded across Persia and East Asia well before Europeans even discovered America.

 

[XZeroII]

The kid is smarter than most of you here. You can try to argue, but all of your arguments are total BS.

First, you don't know this kid's situation. Maybe his parents were doing other drugs as well and beating the kid every night. Maybe his parents were neglecting the kid. You don't know the full story. So before you go demonizing the kid, why don't you consider how dumb you are for jumping to conclusions. Everyone has their reasons for doing what they do. Just because you can smoke pot in front of your kids and make 100k/year as an ambitious go-getter doesn't mean everyone can. You people are ridiculous.

 

[Anonemous]

Speaking of Prop 19, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY6TILz-seY

Save the BEAR!

 

[XZeroII]

Mosh, do you speed?

Did you drink alcohol or use tobacco before the legal ages?

Have you ever done anything illegal?

Have you consistently done something that is technically illegal, and plan to continue?

That's how most of us approach marijuana. Sure, it's illegal. But it's a fucking retarded law that does not deserve to be respected. Also, I don't agree with how it is in federal hands, and I don't respect it the way I respect most Constitutional laws.

I refuse to give a rat's ass about what anyone does with marijuana, and see no rhyme or reason for the harsh punishments handed out in the name of "protecting civilization against the evils of drugs", specifically in regards to marijuana. Other drugs, okay I see a clear line... but nothing makes sense about how the government regards marijuana and marijuana users.

It's been brought up almost everywhere at the state-level general assemblies, but many have refused to put it up for public vote. Many of them have voted down all bills regarding marijuana as less-than-pure-evil, under the guise of their views of yesteryear, where the government was able to spread that little "it's eeeevil" seed, and damn did they sow that one well. Now almost everyone in government remains convinced that marijuana is the seed of satan himself, and refuse to even let it go up for public consideration.
Except for California, which on this one issue, I am glad that state exists. For the foreseeable future, they are the little poster child for marijuana legalization, and are hopefully going to continue sparking open discussion across the country.

do you speed?

Did you drink alcohol or use tobacco before the legal ages?

Have you ever done anything illegal?

Have you consistently done something that is technically illegal, and plan to continue?

Let me get this straight...you think that because no one is perfect that pot should be legal? How about if we use your logic elsewhere. Because no one is perfect, murder should also be legal. I'm making the same jump you are. Listen people, STOP MAKING THAT SAME STUPID ARGUMENT. It's logically flawed. I can't believe that I even have to point that out.

 

[Nintendesert]

Are you serious, Mosh? Take a step back, please. You are way off base here.

Do you believe that "shit isn't together" when you drink alcohol around your kids? Please tell me you do.

If you do not, then you simply have no idea what you're talking about and are blowing smoke..

no pun intended.

If you drink around your kids for the purpose of getting wasted around them, then you are wrong.

You smoke weed to get high, so yes, doing it around your kids is wrong.


That's not the behavior of a responsible parent, regardless of the legality of a substance.

 

[destrekor]

Let me get this straight...you think that because no one is perfect that pot should be legal? How about if we use your logic elsewhere. Because no one is perfect, murder should also be legal. I'm making the same jump you are. Listen people, STOP MAKING THAT SAME STUPID ARGUMENT. It's logically flawed. I can't believe that I even have to point that out.

Talk about fail logic.

The kid is smarter than most of you here. You can try to argue, but all of your arguments are total BS.

First, you don't know this kid's situation. Maybe his parents were doing other drugs as well and beating the kid every night. Maybe his parents were neglecting the kid. You don't know the full story. So before you go demonizing the kid, why don't you consider how dumb you are for jumping to conclusions. Everyone has their reasons for doing what they do. Just because you can smoke pot in front of your kids and make 100k/year as an ambitious go-getter doesn't mean everyone can. You people are ridiculous.

Nobody is claiming to know whether the parents were bad parents or good parents.
We're talking about the idea that a kid can find marijuana in their house, turn it in to authorities, and can end up ruining a good family.

If you drink around your kids for the purpose of getting wasted around them, then you are wrong.

You smoke weed to get high, so yes, doing it around your kids is wrong.


That's not the behavior of a responsible parent, regardless of the legality of a substance.

Well, let's be fair, you absolutely do not have to get high if you want to smoke.

Marijuana is actually pretty damn good for you, when safely inhaled as vapor, in small quantities. One of the most effective pain killers out there. Also, it displays anti-tumor properties.

 

[XZeroII]

Talk about fail logic.

I'm glad you see how stupid your argument is.


I'm just picturing you right now. Sitting back in your computer chair, smug look on your face. You think you just totally pwned me. Maybe you pat yourself on the back a bit. Perhaps you even yank your weiner a little... just because. Yea, you sure showed me. You're so smart!

 

[ShawnD1]

All parents who drink 1 beer or smoke 1 cigarette in the same house as their child should be killed

/thread

 

[Ns1]

I'm glad you see how stupid your argument is.


I'm just picturing you right now. Sitting back in your computer chair, smug look on your face. You think you just totally pwned me. Maybe you pat yourself on the back a bit. Perhaps you even yank your weiner a little... just because. Yea, you sure showed me. You're so smart!

alcohol = tobacco = marijuana

murder =/= alcohol/tobacco/marijuana

 

[XZeroII]

Talk about fail logic.



Nobody is claiming to know whether the parents were bad parents or good parents.
We're talking about the idea that a kid can find marijuana in their house, turn it in to authorities, and can end up ruining a good family.



Well, let's be fair, you absolutely do not have to get high if you want to smoke.

Marijuana is actually pretty damn good for you, when safely inhaled as vapor, in small quantities. One of the most effective pain killers out there. Also, it displays anti-tumor properties.

Did you read the thread? Or are you just making stuff up? According this thread, the kid is absolutely evil. What he did was 100% wrong and he should be punished. The implication is that the parents are good parents and the kid is bad. Read the thread and tell me that's not true.

 

[DrPizza]

I'm not against drinking alcohol in front of children. In some families, even at an early age, children have a sip or two of wine at a nice dinner at home with the family. I can remember being allowed to taste the wine my Grandfather made when I was a little kid. I was given a small amount; maybe an ounce total.

However, I do NOT think that adults should be drinking in excess in front of children. A beer or two while watching the football game - fine. Pounding a 12 pack and getting shitfaced - wrong.

Thus, I'm somewhat torn about marijuana use in front of children. (I've never used the stuff in my life & have no interest in doing so.) No one takes half a puff or whatever it is that would give you the same effect as drinking one beer. (Which is... virtually zero effect.) But, of course, at least the people I've seen use marijuana, none of them have used it to the point where they're incapacitated. Thus, its use in front of children ranks somewhere between "okay" and "not okay." Since it comes down to either a yes or no, I'm gonna have to say no, it's not okay in front of children.

 

[XZeroII]

alcohol = tobacco = marijuana

murder =/= alcohol/tobacco/marijuana

Alcohol != Tobacco != Marijuana != Murder

 

[Ns1]

n/m, round and round this shit goes.

 

[XZeroII]

n/m, round and round this shit goes.

Couldn't agree more. When everyone is free to just make stuff up, nothing really gets accomplished.

 

[olds]

Was this little rudeguy?

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Way harsh.

 

[alkemyst]

shit isn't together when you smoke pot around your kids.
case closed.

and that the kid has full access to the whole stash.

This is one of the main problems that kills those that want to legalize it. If those doing it can't even keep it from their kids when it's illegal, what's going to happen when it's easier to get.

Even if their own kid knows not to touch it, every friend that comes over may not be so smart.

 

[Nintendesert]

Talk about fail logic.



Nobody is claiming to know whether the parents were bad parents or good parents.
We're talking about the idea that a kid can find marijuana in their house, turn it in to authorities, and can end up ruining a good family.



Well, let's be fair, you absolutely do not have to get high if you want to smoke.

Marijuana is actually pretty damn good for you, when safely inhaled as vapor, in small quantities. One of the most effective pain killers out there. Also, it displays anti-tumor properties.

Let's cut the bullshit. Recreational weed smokers aren't doing it for "health" reasons. They do it to get high.

And heroin is an even better pain killer. Most people don't use it for that purpose either. And neither should be done around kids.

 

[waggy]

America (i.e. the Onassis family) introduced opium to China a.

fuck man that's just one of the dumbest things i have seen on here.