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Is one okay but the other isn't? Are both okay? Are both not okay? Explain.
If you dress like you want to get fucked then it should be legal to fuck you.
Is one okay but the other isn't? Are both okay? Are both not okay? Explain.
You don't have kids. An 11 year old can get to anything he wants in a house, short of an expensive safe. The only effective way in keeping kids from touching things they're not supposed to touch in the house is the way you raise them. They can either do it out of respect for your rules, or out of fear of the repercussions. But, other than that, the kids can get to anything they want. We're not talking about babies who are stopped by little plastic plugs inserted into an outlet. The kid is in middle school.
If you had kids, you would know this.
You don't have kids. An 11 year old can get to anything he wants in a house, short of an expensive safe. The only effective way in keeping kids from touching things they're not supposed to touch in the house is the way you raise them. They can either do it out of respect for your rules, or out of fear of the repercussions. But, other than that, the kids can get to anything they want. We're not talking about babies who are stopped by little plastic plugs inserted into an outlet. The kid is in middle school.
If you had kids, you would know this.
They're the same thing obviously, and both are ok. Nothing magical happens when you hit an arbitrary day, based on an arbitrary calendar.
What about a 25-year-old and a 14-year-old? Is that okay? 10-year-old?
How do you draw the line between what is okay and not? Legal and not?
What about a 25-year-old and a 14-year-old? Is that okay? 10-year-old?
How do you draw the line between what is okay and not? Legal and not?
On what basis should it be illegal? I would like a single, specific argument - not a knee jerk reaction based on what you were taught growing up.
I would like to ask the people that don't support marijuana legalization one thing: On what basis should it be illegal? I would like a single, specific argument - not a knee jerk reaction based on what you were taught growing up.
Because it makes you high
Because it's bad
Because it makes you lazy
Because it funds terrorism
Are not valid arguments.
I would like to ask the people that don't support marijuana legalization one thing: On what basis should it be illegal? I would like a single, specific argument - not a knee jerk reaction based on what you were taught growing up.
Because it makes you high
Because it's bad
Because it makes you lazy
Because it funds terrorism
Are not valid arguments.
nice excuse for bad parenting.
My parents had many things that at 10-12 years old I knew about but couldn't get to. It sort of has to do with being taken care of rather than just being left at home all day with no adults around.
Too many would rather have high speed internet and that Lexus in the driveway than pay for childcare.
I would like to ask the people that don't support marijuana legalization one thing: On what basis should it be illegal? I would like a single, specific argument - not a knee jerk reaction based on what you were taught growing up.
Because it makes you high
Because it's bad
Because it makes you lazy
Because it funds terrorism
Are not valid arguments.
No responsible government should let it's people harm themselves.
14 is getting iffy. I generally hold that a 15 year old is old enough to know what's up. For most of human history, 15 year olds were on the battlefield, and ruling countries. Americans especially, coddle children, and don't encourage growth. They need to be taught, and given responsibility early, and be held up to a higher standard than they are.
That said, none of this has a damned thing to do with the OP as you well know. Have do been studying under Phineas?
There is no such thing when it comes to government and society. Society should ALWAYS override the needs of the individual. Sorry, we tried the whole free love and drugs thing back in the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th century and it was a disaster. People became addicted and became a liability to the larger society.No responsible government should get in the way of personal responsibility.
It's a good question, but I don't really understand how it pertains to drug use? We're talking about adults here, not grey areas involving when a child becomes an adult. I'm genuinely asking, not flaming.
To be honest, there are about as many opinions on what you asked as there are people. In some societies, especially past ones, it was normal to be married and popping out children at 13-14 years old. In those days, they let biology solve the problem. Puberty? Marry her! lol
The point I was eventually getting to is how do you define laws when in most every case the difference between one side and the other is arbitrary? You can use this arbitrary defense to justify breaking the law, but then what is the point of the law?
I don't really have an opinion on the ideal legality of pot, but I still think laws should be obeyed regardless of whether you agree with them or not. Imagine a company where the employees do not follow the policies and procedures, or at least the ones they don't agree with. This is a management nightmare because how do you direct your company when the employees are non-compliant?
This happens on the government level as well as this thread demonstrates although there is no option to simply export (fire) you to another country (company).
You defend that tobacco and alcohol are worse than marijuana therefore it is okay to use marijuana even if it is illegal. Are other drugs okay to use as well? Is it okay for someone to take morphine without a prescription if it helps them relax? Should morphine be legalized to an over the counter drug?
My position is somewhat difficult for me to articulate but I think people should follow the rules even if they don't agree with them. They can deal with changing the laws within the proper channels.
Here's another analogy for lack of a better explanation:
A football team is in a huddle and the QB calls the play, but one of the players disagrees and says they should do something else. The player ends up doing his own thing and the team suffers. I think this same concept happens within organizations with non-compliance. You don't agree but you follow anyway because it's part of the social contract, you know, the glue that keeps society from a state of nature.
So smoking pot is wrong because it is illegal and because you should respect the social contract. Why is it illegal? Well I don't know, that should be evaluated separately on its own terms. But being against the law is reason enough to not do it. (or at the very least be prepared to face the consequences if you're caught)
It's a gateway drug in more ways than one. What happened to China could happen to America. Hell, what happened to America at the end of the 19th Century and the beginning of the 20th Century when 20% of all housewives were addicted to drugs could happen again if we start legalizing them. No responsible government should let it's people harm themselves.
dictionary.reference.com said:liberty
noun, plural -ties.
1.
freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.
2.
freedom from external or foreign rule; independence.
3.
freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice.
4.
freedom from captivity, confinement, or physical restraint: The prisoner soon regained his liberty.
5.
permission granted to a sailor, esp. in the navy, to go ashore.
6.
freedom or right to frequent or use a place: The visitors were given the liberty of the city.
7.
unwarranted or impertinent freedom in action or speech, or a form or instance of it: to take liberties.
8.
a female figure personifying freedom from despotism.
Idiom
9.
at liberty,
a.
free from captivity or restraint.
b.
unemployed; out of work.
c.
free to do or be as specified: You are at liberty to leave at any time during the meeting.
I don't think the part about America introducing Opium to China is correct, you got a link? China is on the same continent that Opium is native to.. lol. That really makes no sense.
You can't put that on an 11 year old. He likely didn't know the repercussions of his actions. I would bet he didn't realize it would break up their family.
C'mon, the kid was reaching out for help.
You cannot be thinking smoking pot in front of your kids is ok... can you?