I think the whole huge galaxies thing isn't really a selling point.
I'm looking forward to checking out this game as planets and structures become available to explore.
I personally would rather have a single, interesting galaxy with truly explorable environments than 400 billion procedurally generated galaxies with pseudo-planets that are really just basic models with a texture slapped on them.
Engines can create that stuff for infinity, but it takes a lot more labor and involvement to create a single planet or space station that you can port to, get out of the ship, and explore.
Doing some reading about this game, it seems like the developer has that kind of goal in mind, so I'm pretty excited about where he is going to take it if that's really the case. I'll be keeping a close eye on it.
It's a good time to be a fan of space combat / exploration games right now.
You aren't paying attention. There aren't 400 billion galaxies to explore.
There's one single galaxy with 400 billion star systems to explore.
The environments really CAN be explored. It's not like only half the advertised systems can be visited. That doesn't even make sense. Planet surface content is coming soon with the first DLC. Multi-user ships are coming, too.
I think you're missing the point of my post. I don't care about exploring infinite star systems. I would rather explore a single star system with more interactive content.
And yes, I am paying very close attention to this game, but for reasons that actually matter (billions of star systems isn't one of them). As soon as planets get content, I'll be plopping down some cash for this game.
Planetary content will not be a primary focus. The meat of this game is a space sim, not a planet sim. If you don't like what the game already offers, you won't ever like the game.
Can I walk around the ship, planets and space stations?
Yes, you will be able to walk around the ship interiors, operate ships with multiple players, board and steal other ships with Zero-G FPS combat, walk around and do FPS combat in space stations, do space walks to repair your ship, operate land and underwater vehicles and walk on entire 1:1 scale populated planets with NPCs in living cities, forests and be able to big-game hunt wildlife, like chasing big dinosaurs around as part of expansions.
You can do that.
When you get bored, you can move on to another star system.
Get it?
That is not what he is saying. He is saying he would rather only have one star system where you can land on every planet, fly into cities, get out of your star craft, visit every moon, harvest any of the million of asteroids, etc. He means he'd rather have a larger breadth of content in a smaller area with more depth. I can get behind that. I'll never visit more than a few hundred star systems in Elite, so I don't care if there are billions. Its just a bullet point in the feature list that won't enhance the game to many people.
That is not what he is saying. He is saying he would rather only have one star system where you can land on every planet, fly into cities, get out of your star craft, visit every moon, harvest any of the million of asteroids, etc. He means he'd rather have a larger breadth of content in a smaller area with more depth. I can get behind that. I'll never visit more than a few hundred star systems in Elite, so I don't care if there are billions. Its just a bullet point in the feature list that won't enhance the game to many people.
I've had about 10-15 hours in the game so far and am enjoying my time, but I am starting to see how shallow the game is. Instead of the game opening up more, it seems to be closing in on me. It doesn't feel as alive as something like Eve Online where there are wars going on.
The lack of huge ships is disappointing. I saw the small landing pad and wondered where the bigger ships would dock on the space stations. I guess any playable ship still lands on that small pad.
I see the game as a great start and I plan to continue playing it. Its a great game to listen to podcasts to and I'll probably get my $60 out of it, but its not a expansive as I was hoping for. Feels kind of like Destiny. Great gameplay feel, but not enough content.
Then why is he even interested in this game or posting in this thread since this game is not that?
Than I want to acknowledge? I said, several times, that planetary interaction is planned. I must not understand what you're trying to insinuate. I've been following this for years and have seen every dev blog and dev video and dev interview ever released.
When Eve first launched, there was literally nothing to do. Elite is lightyears ahead of where Eve was when it launched.
There ARE wars going on, between NPC entities like the Federation, The Alliance, and The Empire. There are major wars going on and they're scattered around the galaxy. You can take part. You can join up on one side against other players. Just because YOU haven't found them or haven't bothered looking or asking doesn't mean they don't exist.
FUD at its finest.
There weren't even battleships in Eve at the start, let alone the dozens of other kinds of ships. There wasn't even anything to DO in Eve at the start other than mining and shooting other players. There wasn't even PVE in Eve when it started. Other ships came later in Eve, right? There are other ships slated for later release and there are plans for even bigger and more complex ships to come.
No, there are medium and large ships in the game. Medium ships can't land on small pads. Large ships can't land on medium pads. The biggest ships can't land at orbital platforms at all because orbital platforms don't have large pads.
In fact, I'm flying a large class ship right now.
Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. More FUD from you.
Clearly, there are many aspects of the game that you have no idea about. There's obviously plenty left for you to discover and experience. You have no idea that the content exists but you claim that it flat out does not exist.
You are the kind of player that gives honestly good games a bad name. FUD up the wazoo.
Why are you so angry? If there is stuff I don't understand about the game then by all means fill me in, but, man, calm down a bit. This isn't P&N, we can be civil here. I looked up the ships and saw nothing about a ship being too big to land at an orbital platform. My ship is 25T, the biggest I saw was 500T. Didn't seem like that big of a difference. I'm not trying to "spread FUD."
You can teach people stuff without being so negative about it. Its stuff like that that makes me not want to be a part of games like DOTA.
Then why is he even interested in this game or posting in this thread since this game is not that?
I've visited 361 systems in the few short days that I've played. In just a few weeks, that'll be up over a thousand.
That bullet point is enhancing the game for me and everyone else who plays it. If you don't see value in it, fine. The rest of us who are enjoying the piss out of this game certainly do!
I'm going to wait until the game is more 'complete' and maybe cheaper, but I'm definitely getting it.
This game looks really neat. Tempted and I really need more feedback about the game. Guys chime in on the game and like / dislikes. Would love to hear some stories about your time in the game.
Watching some of the Youtube vids has generated interest but I am still not sure this game is the real deal. Also a bit concerned that my i7/2600K/6970 might be a bit weak for smooth 1080p play - would love to find out your rigs and your game quality experiences so far.
Cheers!
This game looks really neat. Tempted and I really need more feedback about the game. Guys chime in on the game and like / dislikes. Would love to hear some stories about your time in the game.
Watching some of the Youtube vids has generated interest but I am still not sure this game is the real deal. Also a bit concerned that my i7/2600K/6970 might be a bit weak for smooth 1080p play - would love to find out your rigs and your game quality experiences so far.
Cheers!
The game is not particular demanding hardware wise, you're rig is plenty.
It wasn't an objection of any kind. It's simply an interesting claim to me, in that it can't be verified in any practical way. What they are saying, at heart, is that the procedures that generate the content can generate 400 billion playable systems. That number comes from some mathematical constraint or thin air. It doesn't really matter. They might as well have said "endless" or "infinite."