great-great-great-grandma is 5 generations. If that women wasn't 100% that would knock it down another generation or more.I wouldn't call missing between three and seven greats "lining up pretty well." At the high end, it's at best in the "agree to disagree" territory, and at the low end it's farcical.
Trump lost his bet. He qualified the terms and lost. That's really all there is to it. Are you going to chickenshit out of it with him?
Is that what the sad, pathetic, childish GOP has become? LoL-absolutely no responsibility.
You're reading into an assumption that Trump ever knows what the fuck he is talking about.
Nonsense, you're reading into his words to extract the outcome you'd like and then turning around and projecting your behavior onto people who choose not to do that.Actually, that's you. You think that he really meant "any ancestry" instead of "is an Indian" because previously he stated that she claims to have Indian heritage. So you're being completely anal in interpreting the first statement as explicitly literal instead of off the cuff, and then turn around and interpret the next statement as off the cuff so you can ignore it's literal meaning in favour of what you want it to say.
My assumption is that you probably shouldn't take either statement totally literally. The closest thing to what he probably meant was "No reasonable person would say you're an Indian" rather than "not a single drop," or "meets the legal requirements." But you can't just take that ambiguity and go with the scenario that best benefits your position and state it as some absolute fact. Taken literally, you're wrong. Subjectively, it's possible that you may be correct. But that's a far cry from "He better pay up or he's breaking his word."
And this applies to you too @IronWing.
great-great-great-grandma is 5 generations. If that women wasn't 100% that would knock it down another generation or more.
Nonsense, you're reading into his words to extract the outcome you'd like and then turning around and projecting your behavior onto people who choose not to do that.
Actually, that's you. You think that he really meant "any ancestry" instead of "is an Indian" because previously he stated that she claims to have Indian heritage. So you're being completely anal in interpreting the first statement as explicitly literal instead of off the cuff, and then turn around and interpret the next statement as off the cuff so you can ignore it's literal meaning in favour of what you want it to say.
My assumption is that you probably shouldn't take either statement totally literally. The closest thing to what he probably meant was "No reasonable person would say you're an Indian" rather than "not a single drop," or "meets the legal requirements." But you can't just take that ambiguity and go with the scenario that best benefits your position and state it as some absolute fact. Taken literally, you're wrong. Subjectively, it's possible that you may be correct. But that's a far cry from "He better pay up or he's breaking his word."
And this applies to you too @IronWing.
What you're not getting is that they're not the only groups of racists.
So why did they change parties?
The Republican self-proclaimed Nazi in Illinois got 20,338 votes in the 2018 Republican primary. The Republican self-proclaimed Nazi in Wisconsin got 10,864 votes in the 2018 Republican primary. Tell us again how these are a fringe group in the Republican Party.There was no big switch, just a big lie from the revisionists. When they were democrats their numbers were in the hundreds of thousands, not a few thousand fringe group like today.
It is understandable that the cherokee nation is quite concerned about people trying determine tribe membership using DNA test.
Imagine if every American could get his DNA tested and possibly make claims on native american tribal membership and all the benefits that entails (casino rights, land right, etc)? I bet everybody would get their DNA tested and many white people like Elizabeth Warren would have heritage. I wouldn't be surprised at all if lots of white American's ancestors took native wives and never told anybody that their new wife was native american. If DNA became the determining factor in Tribe membership, lots of Americans probably have enough native american heritage to make just as valid claims to tribal lands and rights as many of the current leaders of these tribes.
It doesn't change the fact that Warren clearly does have native american heritage, certainly much more than most Americans. My US ancestors go back to the late 1600s and travelled here from Bavaria, but my DNA tests show zero native american heritage. I don't know anybody who has taken a DNA test and has gotten native american heritage, yet I know dozens of people who have taken these tests. Anecdotally, it does not appear to be very common amongst Americans
Eh?
1 You.
2 Parents.
4 Grandparents.
8 Great Grandparents.
This is what he said:
“I’m going to get one of those little [DNA testing] kits and in the middle of the debate, when she proclaims she’s of Indian heritage...," Trump said. “And we will say, ‘I will give you a million dollars, paid for by Trump, to your favorite charity, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian.' And we’ll see what she does. I have a feeling she will say no, but we will hold it for the debates.”
No "qualified" weasel words found. Warren put up and Trump should stop pouting and pay as promised.
That stupid bitch is as white as wonder bread and President Trump doesn't owe her a dime.
That stupid bitch is as white as wonder bread and President Trump doesn't owe her a dime.
There was no big switch, just a big lie from the revisionists. When they were democrats their numbers were in the hundreds of thousands, not a few thousand fringe group like today.
There is a big difference between having Indian Heritage and being an Indian. There is a Harvard Study that shows that European Americans tested overall for 0.18 percent Native American ancestry, while Ms. Warren’s results show she has anywhere from 0.09 percent to 1.5 percent. So she is somewhere between well below to a little above average.
I honestly love how you idiots are trying to litigate what counts as Native American when it’s super obvious not a single one of you is.
Correction noted. And of course it goes both ways, you could have some ancestors with just a small percentage or similar genetic markers.
That said, I think the entire point is that bringing up a single Indian ancestor from five generations ago as some way to shape your identity is already at the level of getting mocked on South Park and for good reason. The further you push that...
I honestly love how you idiots are trying to litigate what counts as Native American when it’s super obvious not a single one of you is.
I didn't litigate anything. You are telling another of your fibs. I only compared her results to the Harvard study that showed that European Americans tested overall for 0.18 percent Native American ancestry, while Ms. Warren’s results show she has anywhere from 0.09 percent to 1.5 percent. Between lower than average to above average.
Take that for what it is and don't put words in my statement that are not there. It only makes you look foolish.