Elizabeth Warren takes a DNA test. Trump lies about charity offer.

[kage69]

She could do that too. I think she's a strong senator, but I haven't seen enough to say she can push into the executive.

Similar thoughts with the other senators looking to make a 2020 run. At least Booker has mayoral experience, but IDK if he can flip the page.

That was the mistake Hillary made. She was a strong senator, even a very capable SoS. Didn't translate well into exec qualities tho. She's be very strong if she had stayed in the Senate.

So far i haven't seen anyone who looks stronger than Biden, even as old as he is.

I guess he'll do. A nice guy with morals is a big step up from a Russian asset and lying narcissist, but I'd still prefer someone a bit younger. And female. I know what it will do to people like Trump, to "be beaten by a girl." For people like Mitch McConnell, America's most influential coprolite, to witness a woman taking the Oval Office, for there to officially be a First Gentleman! Really brings a smile to my face. The motivated fury currently organizing around me is making that smile bigger by the day.

 

[Vic]

The LBD (Liberal Brain Defect) causes TDS, much like the HIV virus causes AIDS. You and many on this forum cannot see beyond your blue colored bubbles, the TDS won't allow you to see things for what they are.

So having a dissenting political opinion from Trumpers means you suffer from a disease? Gee, when do they open the re-education camps, Comrade?

 

[SlowSpyder]

So having a dissenting political opinion from Trumpers means you suffer from a disease? Gee, when do they open the re-education camps, Comrade?

Just taking a page out of Moonie's book...

 

[Victorian Gray]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...ogize-for-heritage-fraud-mocks-bogus-dna-test

"According to the analysis, this means she would be between 1/64 Native American and 1/1024, or .09 percent—which would be less than the average European American, according to one 2014 study."

She could have less than the average European American... LOL. So much ancestry!

SO very threatened by a 69 year old female politician. Fucking pathetic.

 

[Commodus]

I guess he'll do. A nice guy with morals is a big step up from a Russian asset and lying narcissist, but I'd still prefer someone a bit younger. And female. I know what it will do to people like Trump, to "be beaten by a girl." For people like Mitch McConnell, America's most influential coprolite, to witness a woman taking the Oval Office, for there to officially be a First Gentleman! Really brings a smile to my face. The motivated fury currently organizing around me is making that smile bigger by the day.

I'd love to see that, but at the same time, I'm worried that Trump succeeded in 2016 partly because he was tolerant of (if not supporting of) virulent sexism in the Republican base. There were a lot of misogynistic attacks levelled at Clinton, not so much by Trump himself but by many of his supporters. Clinton was the hag, the bitch, the she-monster... and until Trump is out of office, you won't get a Republican presidential candidate that at least tries to keep those hateful forces at bay.

Don't get me wrong, I would be happy to back a woman candidate in 2020 so long as she's decent -- I'm just taking the cynical approach knowing that there are too many American voters afraid of any candidate who isn't a white male.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Once again, a day late and a dollar short with the talking points. Dude, you've got to get on the fast ring for this shit. You're just too slow.

Warren was so dumb to have done this. Especially before mid terms. She made a claim, kept making it over years. Finally takes a DNA test, and turns out her claim of being Cherokee is not based on facts. Or other claims she made. Even the Cherokee Nation flat out refuses her and calls it a mockery. There isn't a tribe out there that would give her tribe status.

She pulled a Trump. Said something dumb, kept saying it when confronted about it. When facts come out proving she was wrong, she doubled and tripled down during late night tweets. Classic dumb Trump move. He's given so many examples of what not to do yet she did the same thing. Dumb thing for a smart person to do. She should have just said she was mistaken, and went on what family told her. Apologized and moved on. It would have been dropped much sooner. Now everyone knows she's not Cherokee, not even close. Or anything else. Maybe not even North American Indian of any kind. And many people have a higher percentage than her. The average white American has up to twice the DNA she does.

It does bring up an interesting topic of how much does it take to "claim" a race or ethnicity. Like her, might be a lot more people trying to claim minority status with less than 1 percent. 1/2024? Yikes ..



Feel free to dispute the article with facts. But you can't, you don't like the update so you just dismiss it because it's a Fox link. Classic move from someone who can't discuss facts.

When anyone who can do basic math can see the original article is flawed, and has been updated with the exact same numbers from the Fox link.

 

[Thebobo]

Only about as much as those that do not consider themselves "indians", Native Americans.

She showed that WHAT SHE SAID was true. It's pretty much "she said and took the DNA test to show that exactly, EXACTLY what she said was true was true".

She did not prove that what others made up that she said was true but why would she?

Trump was wrong, she was right and that is ALL there is to this. Too bad he doesn't have the money and can never admit that he is wrong.

Slow and Trump are scared of smart women.

 

[Rifter]

How is this even a discussion. There is a very well established bar to meet to be considered indian/native/whatever you wish to call it.

By the looks of it she made the choice to take a very inaccurate test that has a large enough margin of error it cant confirm or deny her native status, so basically i think she did this as a publicity stunt as it proves nothing at all.

Trump is totally 100% right not to pay out until she takes a real and accurate DNA test that can actually confirm her status once and for all in black and white and put this to rest.

The fact that she chose not to take such a test though i think says all we need to know, shes not native status IMO.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Slow and Trump are scared of smart women.

Yea, she's so right and so smart. I hope she runs in 2020, she ought to crush Trump with this convincing, undisputed victory.

 

[UNCjigga]

This is playing out like an own goal by Warren...I guess she should've ignored Trump and not dignified him with a response at all...or at LEAST run your statement by tribal leaders and geneticists and clarify that you are not claiming tribal membership or any direct lineage, just that the stories you were told by your mom, "mawmaw and pawpaw" likely had some truth.

Now she'll have to bend over backwards again and prove being a reasonable doubt that she never benefitted from any affirmative action based on her heritage.

 

[fskimospy]

How is this even a discussion. There is a very well established bar to meet to be considered indian/native/whatever you wish to call it.

By the looks of it she made the choice to take a very inaccurate test that has a large enough margin of error it cant confirm or deny her native status, so basically i think she did this as a publicity stunt as it proves nothing at all.

Trump is totally 100% right not to pay out until she takes a real and accurate DNA test that can actually confirm her status once and for all in black and white and put this to rest.

The fact that she chose not to take such a test though i think says all we need to know, shes not native status IMO.

Why don’t we all just agree that this is a stupid non-issue being drummed up by Republicans?

I mean it’s not like Republicans actually care if what she said is true or not. It’s the same as when they pretended to care about government email policy.

 

[Rifter]

Why don’t we all just agree that this is a stupid non-issue being drummed up by Republicans?

I mean it’s not like Republicans actually care if what she said is true or not. It’s the same as when they pretended to care about government email policy.

At the end of the day she could have made the choice to prove herself right/wrong and end this for good, but instead chose to use a low accuracy BS test that proves literally nothing.

This is her trying to gain some publicity. Not really sure other than trumps promise what this has to do with either the dems or republicans other than her using it to try and advance her political campaign.

 

[fskimospy]

At the end of the day she could have made the choice to prove herself right/wrong and end this for good, but instead chose to use a low accuracy BS test that proves literally nothing.

This is her trying to gain some publicity. Not really sure other than trumps promise what this has to do with either the dems or republicans other than her using it to try and advance her political campaign.

It wouldn’t matter either way. I mean Obama provided his birth certificate in 2008 and that went on for years afterwards anyway.

It’s just bad faith nonsense.

 

[Victorian Gray]

How is this even a discussion. There is a very well established bar to meet to be considered indian/native/whatever you wish to call it.

By the looks of it she made the choice to take a very inaccurate test that has a large enough margin of error it cant confirm or deny her native status, so basically i think she did this as a publicity stunt as it proves nothing at all.

Trump is totally 100% right not to pay out until she takes a real and accurate DNA test that can actually confirm her status once and for all in black and white and put this to rest.

The fact that she chose not to take such a test though i think says all we need to know, shes not native status IMO.

So what, she's never claimed status.

 

[compuwiz1]

At the end of the day she could have made the choice to prove herself right/wrong and end this for good, but instead chose to use a low accuracy BS test that proves literally nothing.

This is her trying to gain some publicity. Not really sure other than trumps promise what this has to do with either the dems or republicans other than her using it to try and advance her political campaign.

The left is still playing all the cards that are losing hands, and have learned nothing. I'm starting to believe they are not going to take the House in the midterms and will also lose the executive in 2020. The racist, sexism, and various phobe cards are still being played and those are not the most important issues the country faces. People care more about things that effect them in real life, like the economy, jobs, national security, border control, etc. Democrats still have no message on any of that stuff. Running on socialist positions is a loser as well.

 

[IronWing]

How is this even a discussion. There is a very well established bar to meet to be considered indian/native/whatever you wish to call it.

By the looks of it she made the choice to take a very inaccurate test that has a large enough margin of error it cant confirm or deny her native status, so basically i think she did this as a publicity stunt as it proves nothing at all.

Trump is totally 100% right not to pay out until she takes a real and accurate DNA test that can actually confirm her status once and for all in black and white and put this to rest.

The fact that she chose not to take such a test though i think says all we need to know, shes not native status IMO.

Trump's million dollar offer was based on a DNA test. She went for it and Trump owes Warren's favorite charity a million bucks.

 

[IronWing]

The left is still playing all the cards that are losing hands, and have learned nothing. I'm starting to believe they are not going to take the House in the midterms and will also lose the executive in 2020. The racist, sexism, and various phobe cards are still being played and those are not the most important issues the country faces. People care more about things that effect them in real life, like the economy, jobs, national security, border control, etc. Democrats still have no message on any of that stuff. Running on socialist positions is a loser as well.

Tell me how national security and border security affect my life other than the first raising my taxes and the second being a pain in the ass?

 

[fskimospy]

The left is still playing all the cards that are losing hands, and have learned nothing. I'm starting to believe they are not going to take the House in the midterms and will also lose the executive in 2020. The racist, sexism, and various phobe cards are still being played and those are not the most important issues the country faces. People care more about things that effect them in real life, like the economy, jobs, national security, border control, etc. Democrats still have no message on any of that stuff. Running on socialist positions is a loser as well.

I like how your argument is that the Democrats should run on economic issues but not advocate democratic policies for them, haha.

 

[trenchfoot]

So is this proof of ethnicity and Trump reneging on his offer going to shut him up once and for all or is he going to lie a lot more about it to save some face? Knowing him and his chronic need to get the last laugh in, he's not about to let Warren get the better of him.

 

[Rifter]

Trump's million dollar offer was based on a DNA test. She went for it and Trump owes Warren's favorite charity a million bucks.

The DNA test was to prove or disprove her status was it not?

 

[IronWing]

The DNA test was to prove or disprove her status was it not?

It was to prove if the claim she made about her heritage was true. It was. Remember, contrary to rightwing spin, Warren never claimed "to be an Indian". She claimed that she had been told by her older relatives (grandmother?) that she had Indian ancestry which is what the test confirmed.

 

[Thebobo]

How is this even a discussion. There is a very well established bar to meet to be considered indian/native/whatever you wish to call it.

By the looks of it she made the choice to take a very inaccurate test that has a large enough margin of error it cant confirm or deny her native status, so basically i think she did this as a publicity stunt as it proves nothing at all.

Trump is totally 100% right not to pay out until she takes a real and accurate DNA test that can actually confirm her status once and for all in black and white and put this to rest.

The fact that she chose not to take such a test though i think says all we need to know, shes not native status IMO.

By the looks of it you just making up stuff as facts and not one thing you said there you bother to corroborate. What proof do you have off anything? And what makes you the DNA testing expert? Google?

 

[Maxima1]

It’s some stupid law directory that colleges use to showcase their professors
Nobody looks at it, Warren said she had no knowledge of it. Directory flagged anyone who answered anything other than European/White
It’s yet another straw conservatives keep holding on to.

I have no idea where you're getting your information, but it was Warren.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...behind-elizabeth-warren-and-her-native-ameri/

"I listed myself (in the) directory in the hopes that might mean that I would be invited to a luncheon, a group something, with people who are like I am," Warren told reporters May 3, 2012. "Nothing like that ever happened. That was absolutely not the use for it and so I stopped checking it off."

- That is EXACTLY the kind of meth-logic I was talking about. Only in lala land.

It reminds me a lot of Rachel Dolezal. In fact, she was asked if Cherokee was replaced with black, and she replied "it would be part of my identification."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rau0A5w3OVI

So its on her to engage Trump in his racist slur to get a precise definition of the bet? Trump has never given a precise ANYTHING about ANYTHING.. and why the hell should she help him out of stupid?

If she wanted to drag it out again, then yes, she should have. However, it wouldn't have really mattered because the heritage thing is just a separate thing that this largely was never about anyway.

So we give the idiot a pass cause idiots gonna idiot? The second you go there its all over.

The point being that Donnie is just one person who happens to be a big idiot. Yes, his supporters are, too, but they didn't all deny she had any Indian blood. People were mocking her with things like "1/32 Cherokee, 31/32 Goofy."

As it matters to you, the actually appropriate question to ask is 'why'. So, as I asked you in the first place, why does it matter?

People are trying to make sense of the silliness of her identifying as one when she clearly isn't Native American in any meaningful way. Was it to garner sympathy? Career prospects? Or was she really that goofy? What person would identify with the racial group that their parents say they have a little itty bit in them and clearly isn't a part of their appearance or upbringing? I think it's a better question than what Warren posed.

"As a kid, I never asked my mom about documentation when she talked about our Native American heritage," Warren said in a 2012 campaign ad. "What kid would?

 

[Ackmed]

It'll be interesting to see how many of the same people are going to be upset at someone wearing a native American costume for Halloween saying it's "cultural appropriation", but perfectly fine with Warren claiming to be a native American with what could be less than 1 percent.

Less than 1 percent confirms through DNA that Warren is native American to some, but 2 X's through DNA don't confirm a gender. Interesting.

 

[zinfamous]

As more and more comes out, it appears that she was lying.

No, not at all.

And lol that you give a shit about lying.