Elizabeth Warren takes a DNA test. Trump lies about charity offer.

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woolfe9998

Lifer
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I think 1/1024th is nothing and Warren is full of crap and obviously so does the Cherokee Nation in their statement about her DNA Test.

https://www.kjrh.com/news/local-new...nt-on-sen-elizabeth-warren-s-dna-test-results

"A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person's ancestors were indigenous to North or South America. Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is prove. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."

- Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin, Jr.

That being said. Trump should pay her charity the million dollars. If for no other reason than he can afford it and to shut her up.

It's 1/64th to 1024th, a range. You used the top end, of course.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/elizabeth-warren-roughly-1-64th-to-1-1024th-native-american/

Cherokee nation is correct, DNA is not definitive. But Warren didn't decide on DNA as a method. Trump did.
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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It is hard to know! You say the Democrats are so racist so I would think racist groups would flock to them. Oddly enough they flock to republicans.

Why do you think that is?


Because there are different flavors of racism in practice. The flavor the Democrats have in place is not what appeals to the Nazis. The issue here isn't that a particular racist group leans right vs. left, the issue is that you and the other leftist sheeple don't realize that you're the real racists today, you are more like the Nazis than the right. Nazis are likely fucking idiots and haven't seen it either, like much of the left they're too blinded by hate to see straight, I'm sure.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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It really pains me that you won't see my reply, but it is best you put me on ignore and protect your bubble. KKK members were Democrats, today they are right leaning. Who cares? They are a very small group of racists. That has nothing to do with the reality that the left mimics the Nazis of old more than the Nazis of today... the left are the new conservatives. They are the ones that have sneaked in socially acceptable forms of racism and sexism. They are the ones that try to use law to push their version of morality. Today the left's mainstream message is one of racism, on the right you have some fringe groups that are racist. There is a big difference. The Democrat plantation.

This whole "Libs are the real Fascists!" is incredibly lame. It truly is-

https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000006154922/fascism-leaders-america-trump.html
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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Don't know why a fringe group does what it does. Why'd the left adopt racism as their mainstream view?

Fuck thats stupid. Source your allegations please.

But we all see what you are doing ... Lets turn the stupid around for a second, shall we? Why did the right adopt pedophilia and murder of children as their mainstream view?
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
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cytg111

Lifer
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Because there are different flavors of racism in practice. The flavor the Democrats have in place is not what appeals to the Nazis. The issue here isn't that a particular racist group leans right vs. left, the issue is that you and the other leftist sheeple don't realize that you're the real racists today, you are more like the Nazis than the right. Nazis are likely fucking idiots and haven't seen it either, like much of the left they're too blinded by hate to see straight, I'm sure.
Oh .. could you edit the wiki page on racism to reflect the correct meaning of the term? I mean since you are the one soul on the planet that *really* understands what racism is? kthxbye?
 

HurleyBird

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You can legally call yourself an Indian at 1/64 or 1.5%...

Also, the rule is 1.5% to legally claim you are a native American and she fits (she's anywhere from 3.5-0.5% which makes her legal claim true) that rule not to mention the DNA test shows that what she has claimed is true.

This sounds far too stupid to be true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certificate_of_Degree_of_Indian_Blood

And apparently it isn't. Depends on the tribe, but bare minimum looks to be 1/16th.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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lol, Trump owes Warren and her charity 1 million Simoleons. It is no other way.

I know Bustamante...I find this to be a bit...media-ey, and strange....but the guy is pretty much the top of the field. The absolute top. I honestly don't know how to think about how this all played out, but Bustamante is wholly unimpeachable when it comes to pop gen and next-gen seq.
 

FIVR

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It is understandable that the cherokee nation is quite concerned about people trying determine tribe membership using DNA test.


Imagine if every American could get his DNA tested and possibly make claims on native american tribal membership and all the benefits that entails (casino rights, land right, etc)? I bet everybody would get their DNA tested and many white people like Elizabeth Warren would have heritage. I wouldn't be surprised at all if lots of white American's ancestors took native wives and never told anybody that their new wife was native american. If DNA became the determining factor in Tribe membership, lots of Americans probably have enough native american heritage to make just as valid claims to tribal lands and rights as many of the current leaders of these tribes.


It doesn't change the fact that Warren clearly does have native american heritage, certainly much more than most Americans. My US ancestors go back to the late 1600s and travelled here from Bavaria, but my DNA tests show zero native american heritage. I don't know anybody who has taken a DNA test and has gotten native american heritage, yet I know dozens of people who have taken these tests. Anecdotally, it does not appear to be very common amongst Americans
 

IEC

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That's rich considering that the leader of the Cherokee nation is 1/32 Cherokee and whiter than a redhead from Ireland.

The legal precedent is 1.5% or 1/64 and she matches that with or without any DNA test. A DNA test was only made on a challenge from Donald Trump and they can't condemn him because they know he would take offense and punish them.

We ALL know that he's that petty but some would like to play pretend that he isn't even though he always is.

The least strict tribal nations require 1/16, and/or direct lineal descent from a original member of the tribal rolls.

The leader of the Cherokee Nation does qualify under Cherokee tribal rules due to direct lineal descent, but Elizabeth Warren would not qualify under any tribe's rules, much less the Cherokee Nation's.
 

IJTSSG

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President Trump is living rent free right between Elizabeth Warrens ears.

I really hope that stupid bitch is the Democratic nominee for President in 2020.
 
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cytg111

Lifer
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Old guard vs. the new flavor that is today's left. Actions speak louder than words and all that. Now, onward affirmative action warrior, push your racism and keep the undesirables trapped in the ghetto while thinking you're doing a morally just thing. Reminds me of the Nazis...

The political party that calls for equality for all is the one that reminds you of nazis?

The political party that touted there was good people among those nazis in charlotsville and repeatedly have nazi sympathisers running for office does not?

YO this is addressed to SlowSpyders handler, your agent here is off the rails, you need to shut this down before you embarrass yourself and the big man further.
 

cytg111

Lifer
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President Trump is living rent free right between Elizabeth Warrens ears.

I really hope that stupid bitch is the Democratic nominee for President in 2020.

mmm that felt good didnt it... wanna close with a comment on her "race"? You know you want to .. common, gooooooo tiger.
 

MixMasterTang

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My best mate did his DNA test from ancestry.com and is 38% Native American. The problem with that is his moms family is from Mexico - which is of course part of "The Americas" but it's almost impossible to know if he is from any particular "tribe" or not.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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President Trump is living rent free right between Elizabeth Warrens ears.

I really hope that stupid bitch is the Democratic nominee for President in 2020.

"Stupid bitch"

Warren is a superior human than you, all members of your family, and all the generations of vile seed to issue forth from your poisoned pecker could ever hope to be.

lol, you're such a stupid tool.

Admit it: That dark side of you really just wants to "Kavanaugh" her, right? Yeah, that shit keeps you up at night, all those hot sweats.
 

Josephus312

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The least strict tribal nations require 1/16, and/or direct lineal descent from a original member of the tribal rolls.

The leader of the Cherokee Nation does qualify under Cherokee tribal rules due to direct lineal descent, but Elizabeth Warren would not qualify under any tribe's rules, much less the Cherokee Nation's.

1.5% is 1/64 and literally EVERYONE who has an ancestor that was a Native American has lineal descent from that Native American. How would it be non lineal? That would make absolutely no sense what so ever. It might be that I'm missing something here.

If she doesn't qualify then neither would he given that she is actually 3.1 at best which is 1/16 and he is 1/32.

I'm going to assume it's because of a tradition that makes absolutely no sense what so ever like "paternal lineage".
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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mam, conservative snowflakes are so predictably triggered by Mrs. Warren.

It's like honey.
 

fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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Because there are different flavors of racism in practice. The flavor the Democrats have in place is not what appeals to the Nazis. The issue here isn't that a particular racist group leans right vs. left, the issue is that you and the other leftist sheeple don't realize that you're the real racists today, you are more like the Nazis than the right. Nazis are likely fucking idiots and haven't seen it either, like much of the left they're too blinded by hate to see straight, I'm sure.

Oh so liberals are the real racists it just so happens that the Ku Klux Klan and the Nazis happen to identity with the republicans?

What an amazing coincidence! Hahahahah.

Thank you for this.
 

Josephus312

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Jeez. Greatest self own ever.

The Cherokee nation released a blistering statement too.

Yes, for them sucking Donald Trumps mushroom penis is very profitable for minority groups, this is just one of them.

I would like them to consider that they are worthless to him in the end and won't get jack shit when someone asks to build on their land he will grant it for the kickbacks to Trump Inc.
 
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Because there are different flavors of racism in practice. The flavor the Democrats have in place is not what appeals to the Nazis. The issue here isn't that a particular racist group leans right vs. left, the issue is that you and the other leftist sheeple don't realize that you're the real racists today, you are more like the Nazis than the right. Nazis are likely fucking idiots and haven't seen it either, like much of the left they're too blinded by hate to see straight, I'm sure.
lol, he trotted out 'the real racists'
what maroon
what an ultra maroon
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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lol, he trotted out 'the real racists'
what maroon
what an ultra maroon
Meth + Alex Jones OR a deskjob at kremlin troll factory.
Democracy is dependent on checks and balances, meanwhile Trump is tearing down the rule of law and turle is destroying the senate... heading straight for fascism. And then SlowSpyders meth intellect computes this to: DEMS BE THE NAZIS..
 

compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
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I think 1/1024th is nothing and Warren is full of crap and obviously so does the Cherokee Nation in their statement about her DNA Test.

https://www.kjrh.com/news/local-new...nt-on-sen-elizabeth-warren-s-dna-test-results

"A DNA test is useless to determine tribal citizenship. Current DNA tests do not even distinguish whether a person's ancestors were indigenous to North or South America. Sovereign tribal nations set their own legal requirements for citizenship, and while DNA tests can be used to determine lineage, such as paternity to an individual, it is not evidence for tribal affiliation. Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate tribal governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is prove. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."

- Cherokee Nation Secretary of State Chuck Hoskin, Jr.

That being said. Trump should pay her charity the million dollars. If for no other reason than he can afford it and to shut her up.

She ain't no Indian. If she runs for POTUS this is gonna be sooooo fun! She reminds me of our bitchy librarian in jr. high.
 
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