Elizabeth Warren takes a DNA test. Trump lies about charity offer.

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mizzou

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DNA evaluations change over the time, as the sample sizes increase. For instance, someone who was previously believed to have 25% DNA from a region in Europe can be interpreted vastly less or more depending on how accurate the sample size is. Also, because generations of people migrate and intermix the understanding of regions will change as well.

I for instance, completely lost an estimated region of my DNA that was previously listed as "high confidence" with 16% of my total DNA. It's competely gone now and merged into another region, based on the increased accuracy and algorithms from the company. I'm not overly surpised from this, but I do have a clear understanding that my DNA is closely shared with that other region. What that tells me is, even DNA analysis will not give you a completely accurate determination of who you are. But, it does give you a very good idea where you come from. For people who have no clue who their parent is or where that parent comes from, it is really genuinely interesting to get that data. It becomes less interesting in other ways, especially if you have your family lineage documented and unquestioned for hundreds of years.

So there is some huge wiggle room for interpreting the data. I have a feeling that this is sort of like that South Park episode where (Stan's dad?) was trying to prove to everyone he was native american and was doing everything in his power to prove it to everyone. I don't understand Warren's efforts other then she finally found a strange way to prove to everyone she is very strongly possibly, at one point sharing DNA with native americans. Because our understanding of DNA is fluid, she should have probably become a bit more fluid about her own history.
 

Thebobo

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DNA evaluations change over the time, as the sample sizes increase. For instance, someone who was previously believed to have 25% DNA from a region in Europe can be interpreted vastly less or more depending on how accurate the sample size is. Also, because generations of people migrate and intermix the understanding of regions will change as well.

I for instance, completely lost an estimated region of my DNA that was previously listed as "high confidence" with 16% of my total DNA. It's competely gone now and merged into another region, based on the increased accuracy and algorithms from the company. I'm not overly surpised from this, but I do have a clear understanding that my DNA is closely shared with that other region. What that tells me is, even DNA analysis will not give you a completely accurate determination of who you are. But, it does give you a very good idea where you come from. For people who have no clue who their parent is or where that parent comes from, it is really genuinely interesting to get that data. It becomes less interesting in other ways, especially if you have your family lineage documented and unquestioned for hundreds of years.

So there is some huge wiggle room for interpreting the data. I have a feeling that this is sort of like that South Park episode where (Stan's dad?) was trying to prove to everyone he was native american and was doing everything in his power to prove it to everyone. I don't understand Warren's efforts other then she finally found a strange way to prove to everyone she is very strongly possibly, at one point sharing DNA with native americans. Because our understanding of DNA is fluid, she should have probably become a bit more fluid about her own history.

Yep I pointed this out way back in just 6 months mine changed a lot as far as the percentages of certain cultures.
 
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I don't know why she decided to put this out there. Does not really help the situation, only fuels it.

Regardless of the merits, it moves the (idiotic) debate onto Trump's field where he is the Master of Idiots and Hypocrisy.

She needs to stick to get issues.

It's poorly enough handled that I'm questioning her fitness to run in 2020. Can't have another Hillary that find their way out of stupidity traps.

I agree and I’ve said I like Warren as a Senator it’s her place. I don’t like the idea of her being President
She hasn’t done enough to protect her reputation and she’s too technical for anyone to understand
 

Josephus312

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She showed that WHAT SHE SAID was true. It's pretty much "she said and took the DNA test to show that exactly, EXACTLY what she said was true was true".

She did not prove that what others made up that she said was true but why would she?

Trump was wrong, she was right and that is ALL there is to this. Too bad he doesn't have the money and can never admit that he is wrong.
 

Josephus312

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I agree and I’ve said I like Warren as a Senator it’s her place. I don’t like the idea of her being President
She hasn’t done enough to protect her reputation and she’s too technical for anyone to understand

Warren as a President could possibly push through her bill which would end all of US government corruption and lobbyism in one step. That ALONE is reason why she should be President.
 
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Warren as a President could possibly push through her bill which would end all of US government corruption and lobbyism in one step. That ALONE is reason why she should be President.

Zero point zero percent chance that would be fillabuster proof.
She serve us all better if she talked about meat & potatoes issues like this every night.
 

Vic

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Jhhnn

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No one cares except for your ilk pushing the white identity politics myth that minorities have it better than whites and therefore Warren is a "race traitor" for claiming Native American ancestry.

edit: and seriously, the Rev Moon's rag? I wouldn't line a bird cage with the Washington Times.

He's desperate to believe in the Donald.
 

WHAMPOM

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Once more Big Brother changes history to prove he was right all along. "I did not say that, I said/meant this instead and am the winner/not you the whiner"
 

kage69

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I agree and I’ve said I like Warren as a Senator it’s her place. I don’t like the idea of her being President
She hasn’t done enough to protect her reputation and she’s too technical for anyone to understand

I'd like to see her as AG myself.

Exactly the type we need after having Justice run by a Confederate garden gnome who hates women in positions of authority.
 

abj13

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DNA evaluations change over the time, as the sample sizes increase. For instance, someone who was previously believed to have 25% DNA from a region in Europe can be interpreted vastly less or more depending on how accurate the sample size is. Also, because generations of people migrate and intermix the understanding of regions will change as well.

I for instance, completely lost an estimated region of my DNA that was previously listed as "high confidence" with 16% of my total DNA. It's competely gone now and merged into another region, based on the increased accuracy and algorithms from the company. I'm not overly surpised from this, but I do have a clear understanding that my DNA is closely shared with that other region. What that tells me is, even DNA analysis will not give you a completely accurate determination of who you are. But, it does give you a very good idea where you come from. For people who have no clue who their parent is or where that parent comes from, it is really genuinely interesting to get that data. It becomes less interesting in other ways, especially if you have your family lineage documented and unquestioned for hundreds of years.

So there is some huge wiggle room for interpreting the data. I have a feeling that this is sort of like that South Park episode where (Stan's dad?) was trying to prove to everyone he was native american and was doing everything in his power to prove it to everyone. I don't understand Warren's efforts other then she finally found a strange way to prove to everyone she is very strongly possibly, at one point sharing DNA with native americans. Because our understanding of DNA is fluid, she should have probably become a bit more fluid about her own history.

I would say its a bit different when talking about Native American ancestry. Given the hypothesized migration patterns that allowed human colonization of North and South America, descendants of Native Americans are easier to trace. There simply wasn't the massive intermixing that was happening in Europe/Africa/Asia.
 

Vic

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BTW, there was once another American politician who played the populist and loved to give his opponents nasty little childish nicknames like Trump does. His name was Huey Long.
 
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IJTSSG

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I used to think Democrats weren't fools. But they way they act today has changed that. My view is not set in stone and can and has changed before. When the left can put on their big boy pants and act like adults maybe they'll win a fan back, but as of today the non-stop tantrum and lies (like trying to pretend a thousandth of a percentage of something is any kind of ancestry) makes it easy to look at them as fools.
Trump Derangement Syndrome has made them so fucking stupid I'm surprised they aren't all on life support.
 
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Jhhnn

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Trump Derangement Syndrome has made them so fucking stupid I'm surprised they aren't all on life support.

Mindless post quoting mindless post. It's like the dogs in my neighborhood- when one barks, the rest follow up. And Libs are the real Nazis, obviously.
 

SlowSpyder

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Mindless post quoting mindless post. It's like the dogs in my neighborhood- when one barks, the rest follow up. And Libs are the real Nazis, obviously.

The LBD (Liberal Brain Defect) causes TDS, much like the HIV virus causes AIDS. You and many on this forum cannot see beyond your blue colored bubbles, the TDS won't allow you to see things for what they are.
 

Jhhnn

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The LBD (Liberal Brain Defect) causes TDS, much like the HIV virus causes AIDS. You and many on this forum cannot see beyond your blue colored bubbles, the TDS won't allow you to see things for what they are.

I just see that Warren's DNA test confirms native American ancestry. Well, along with a lot of right wing obfuscation & bullshit.
 

Bitek

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The LBD (Liberal Brain Defect) causes TDS, much like the HIV virus causes AIDS. You and many on this forum cannot see beyond your blue colored bubbles, the TDS won't allow you to see things for what they are.

What the hell are we talking about here anyway?

I've never understood this "controversy" other than childish name calling.
 
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Bitek

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I'd like to see her as AG myself.

Exactly the type we need after having Justice run by a Confederate garden gnome who hates women in positions of authority.

She could do that too. I think she's a strong senator, but I haven't seen enough to say she can push into the executive.

Similar thoughts with the other senators looking to make a 2020 run. At least Booker has mayoral experience, but IDK if he can flip the page.

That was the mistake Hillary made. She was a strong senator, even a very capable SoS. Didn't translate well into exec qualities tho. She's be very strong if she had stayed in the Senate.

So far i haven't seen anyone who looks stronger than Biden, even as old as he is.
 
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She could do that too. I think she's a strong senator, but I haven't seen enough to say she can push into the executive.

Similar thoughts with the other senators looking to make a 2020 run. At least Booker has mayoral experience, but IDK if he can flip the page.

That was the mistake Hillary made. She was a strong senator, even a very capable SoS. Didn't translate well into exec qualities tho. She's be very strong if she had stayed in the Senate.

So far i haven't seen anyone who looks stronger than Biden, even as old as he is.

Biden is only like 3(?) years older than Trump.
Personally I think Booker is our guy at the moment.
 

Jhhnn

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She could do that too. I think she's a strong senator, but I haven't seen enough to say she can push into the executive.

Similar thoughts with the other senators looking to make a 2020 run. At least Booker has mayoral experience, but IDK if he can flip the page.

That was the mistake Hillary made. She was a strong senator, even a very capable SoS. Didn't translate well into exec qualities tho. She's be very strong if she had stayed in the Senate.

So far i haven't seen anyone who looks stronger than Biden, even as old as he is.

Don't be a dumbass. Hillary got slimed.
 

cytg111

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The LBD (Liberal Brain Defect) causes TDS, much like the HIV virus causes AIDS. You and many on this forum cannot see beyond your blue colored bubbles, the TDS won't allow you to see things for what they are.
Do they pass out free meth at your meetings? You sure act like it.
 

compuwiz1

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Biden is only like 3(?) years older than Trump.
Personally I think Booker is our guy at the moment.

Not a fat chance in hell. He's a kook with a bad history with women. That's a drum that will be hammered on, by opposition, during his whole campaign and he just won't have the female voters.

What am I saying here? That didn't stop Trump.
 
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