Elk Shot by Police - Idiots Mourn Elk

[Iron Woode]

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2013/01/...-for-elk-killed-by-police-officer-in-boulder/

BOULDER, Colo. (CBS4) – A vigil was held in Boulder Sunday evening for an elk that was shot by a police officer last week.

About 75 people attended the vigil on Mountain View Road, near where the incident occurred. People lit candles, sang songs including “Amazing Grace” and “We Shall Overcome.”

Many also spoke at length about the animal who was frequently seen in the area and had been given many nicknames, including Big Boy, George and Elmo.

“We loved him, but I think he loved us, too, because he returned here to this neighborhood three years in a row,” said resident Jim Riermersma during the vigil.

“I cried; outraged; I lost a very dear friend,” resident Marcus O’Bryon said. “I know that’s hard for some people to believe, but he was an incredible, magnificent creature.”

When asked how he would respond to people who think a vigil for an elk is silly, O’Bryon said, “Well, they don’t have to be here, do they?”

Its an elk, not a person. I will never understand this behaviour for dead wildlife. Makes sense to mourn the loss of your pet. But a wild animal?

I have even seen people demand the police charge someone for running over a squirrel.

 

[Nintendesert]

HAHA oh man I'm glad I don't live in Denver.

 

[CraigRT]

I have even seen people demand the police charge someone for running over a squirrel.

Yeah, that's pretty bad.

 

[child of wonder]

Strange that you could watch a Youtube video displaying adults or children dying and it'll get a couple thousand comments about how tragic it is. But watch a video of someone hurting a cat and there will be hundreds of thousands of people each with a level of outrage that completely eclipses the sum of all the outrage from those that commented on the human being killed.

It's ridiculous.

 

[darkxshade]

Small price to pay for legalizing weed?

 

[Cookie]

I'm jealous. I spent an entire week last fall trying to shoot an elk and didn't get one.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

I think a vigil for an innocent elk makes more sense than the lowlifes holding vigils for little thugs who attack innocent people.

 

[BudAshes]

Strange that you could watch a Youtube video displaying adults or children dying and it'll get a couple thousand comments about how tragic it is. But watch a video of someone hurting a cat and there will be hundreds of thousands of people each with a level of outrage that completely eclipses the sum of all the outrage from those that commented on the human being killed.

It's ridiculous.

It's because humans really don't like each other that much.

 

[Gooberlx2]

HAHA oh man I'm glad I don't live in Denver.

Boulder. While I'd be pissed too if I lived in that community, a vigil is....lame.

I would request an investigation into the cop's actions though (which is happening). Reports I've read make it sound like the cop may have straight up poached the thing and concocted an excuse so he and his friends could have some elk meat.

 

[waggy]

oh boy thats fucked up.

what's worse though is the comments. one women compared this to the shooting of the kids. she claimed it was just as bad.

/facepalm

 

[GagHalfrunt]

How about the rest of the story?

The elk appeared to be friendly and was not a danger to anyone
On-Duty cop killed elk for no reason with service revolver
Cop intentionally tried to hide the fact that he killed the elk
Cop took the elk home to use the meat

At the risk of sounding like SandEagle here, the cop should lose his job and be charged with a whole host of crimes related to poaching and discharging a firearm in a city area when no threat was present. Maybe the vigil is less about the animal and more about raising awareness that a crime was committed so that the story receives media attention and forces the police to do something about it.

 

[Nintendesert]

Boulder. While I'd be pissed too if I lived in that community, a vigil is....lame.

I would request an investigation into the cop's actions though (which is happening). Reports I've read make it sound like the cop may have straight up poached the thing and concocted an excuse so he and his friends could have some elk meat.

Oops! Sorry, I saw the Denver link and totally missed the first word of the paragraph.

 

[lxskllr]

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Its an elk, not a person. I will never understand this behaviour for dead wildlife. Makes sense to mourn the loss of your pet. But a wild animal?

Sounds like it was a quasi pet, where it showed up regularly, and people got to know it. I don't know about a vigil, but I'd rather see an elk regularly than I would most people. Seems legit to me.

 

[waggy]

How about the rest of the story?

The elk appeared to be friendly and was not a danger to anyone
On-Duty cop killed elk for no reason with service revolver
Cop intentionally tried to hide the fact that he killed the elk
Cop took the elk home to use the meat

At the risk of sounding like SandEagle here, the cop should lose his job and be charged with a whole host of crimes related to poaching and discharging a firearm in a city area when no threat was present. Maybe the vigil is less about the animal and more about raising awareness that a crime was committed so that the story receives media attention and forces the police to do something about it.

trouble is how you going to prove it. while it sure sounds like he poached it for the meat you need proof.

also a wild animal no matter how tame it appears is never tame. it may be friendly most of the time all it takes is one moment for that huge elk to kill a person.

IF it was really injured the cop did the right thing. but i admit it does look bad for him.

 

[preslove]

Huh, you ignored this part:

Carter killed the elk on Tuesday near the intersection of 9th and Mapleton, something Boulder’s police chief Mark Beckner said was against “protocol.”

He said the incident wasn’t reported by either officer until residents began to ask questions about the killing. He said Carter, who was on duty and on patrol in the area at the time, reported that he felt the animal needed to be “humanely euthanized” because it was injured.

After Carter shot and killed it with a single shot, he called Curnow. After Carter posed for a photo with the elk, Curnow “took the elk in his own vehicle to process the meat for personal use,” Beckner wrote in a letter to residents on Friday about the matter.

So, a neighborhood has an elk that likes to come and graze with no nuisance reports, then some piece of shit cop illegally shoots it, poses for his 'prize', goes and gets the meat processed, and then fails to make ANY REPORT about it?

Fire this shit stain

 

[preslove]

trouble is how you going to prove it. while it sure sounds like he poached it for the meat you need proof.

also a wild animal no matter how tame it appears is never tame. it may be friendly most of the time all it takes is one moment for that huge elk to kill a person.

IF it was really injured the cop did the right thing. but i admit it does look bad for him.

He didn't report it. Police officers usually have to report every single incident involving the shooting of their firearm. There is no reasonable scenario that doesn't involve this asshole breaking the law.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

trouble is how you going to prove it. while it sure sounds like he poached it for the meat you need proof.

also a wild animal no matter how tame it appears is never tame. it may be friendly most of the time all it takes is one moment for that huge elk to kill a person.

IF it was really injured the cop did the right thing. but i admit it does look bad for him.

Police say the cop admits that the elk was taken and used for meat. There's also no dispute that the cops used a service weapon while on duty and didn't report the incident which is a VERY big red flag about how the cops felt about the incident. And if the cop is claiming the animal was injured and needed to be killed it's up to him to prove it, not for anyone else to disprove it after the thing was turned into dinner.

And even if the animal was in fact hurt and did in fact need to be put down as an act of mercy, the cop illegally stole the meat and lied about the incident by not reporting use of a duty firearm. He should be fired for that alone. Look at the picture, this piece of shit posed with the thing like it was a hunting trophy.

 

[waggy]

He didn't report it. Police officers usually have to report every single incident involving the shooting of their firearm. There is no reasonable scenario that doesn't involve this asshole breaking the law.

agree discipline him for that. put it on his perm record. while i suspect he did it for the meat right now there is speculation. so what he didn't fill out records about shooting the animal. it's actually common sadly.

as for taking the animal for meat that is not unusual either. i have no issue with it (though i would have preferred it go to a shelter).

What i'm talking about is those saying fire and charge him. you need proof and as a officer if he says its a wounded animal in a residential area you need solid proof against that.

Also it was NOT A PET. it's still a wild animal.

Police say the cop admits that the elk was taken and used for meat. There's also no dispute that the cops used a service weapon while on duty and didn't report the incident which is a VERY big red flag about how the cops felt about the incident. And if the cop is claiming the animal was injured and needed to be killed it's up to him to prove it, not for anyone else to disprove it after the thing was turned into dinner.

And even if the animal was in fact hurt and did in fact need to be put down as an act of mercy, the cop illegally stole the meat and lied about the incident by not reporting use of a duty firearm. He should be fired for that alone. Look at the picture, this piece of shit posed with the thing like it was a hunting trophy.

wait. where is he saying it killed it for meat? everything i read claims he said he put it down because it was injured. Witch IF true (again sure does not look that way) that is the right thing to do. This is still a wild animal. its safer for people and better for the animal to be put down with a bullet.

No the cop really does not need to prove he put it down because it was injured. they need to prove he poached it (wich i agree sure in the hell looks that way).

 

[GagHalfrunt]

What i'm talking about is those saying fire and charge him. you need proof and as a officer if he says its a wounded animal in a residential area you need solid proof against that.

No, a cop needs to prove that the use of a duty firearm was justified. As he conveniently ate the evidence that does not seem likely to happen.

A cop does not under any interpretation of the law get to kill things, hide the evidence and then claim that it had to be done while expecting his word alone to be enough. No evidence to show that is was necessary = unnecessary. It doesn't work the other way around.

 

[preslove]

dumb drivel

1). He failed to report the use of his service weapon. In a residential neighborhood!

2). He admitted to taking it to a meat processor for "personal use."

Therefore, he obstructed justice to poach the elk. He broke at least 2 laws here. This is not the type of person who should be a sworn peace officer. If you think this just warrants a mark on his record, something is seriously fucking wrong with you.

If his excuses had ANY validity, then he would have filed a report. He didn't. Only an idiot would give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[waggy]

No, a cop needs to prove that the use of a duty firearm was justified. As he conveniently ate the evidence that does not seem likely to happen.

A cop does not under any interpretation of the law get to kill things, hide the evidence and then claim that it had to be done while expecting his word alone to be enough. No evidence to show that is was necessary = unnecessary. It doesn't work the other way around.

shrug. its a wild animal. he did pretty much all he had to do. claim it was wounded and in town. he worried it would hurt someone or it was suffering (both of witch IF it was wounded is true).

nothing is going to happen unless they come out with real proof. witch they don't have (again wich is my point. i do suspect he did it for the kill and meat).


Stupid people will have the vigil. continue to compare it to the killing of the children. in the end? nothing will happen to the cop. they need proof that he poached it and not that it was really hurt and he killed it as part of his job.

the fact it was done into meat means nothing and neither do the photo's (though that was fucking idiotic).

 

[preslove]

shrug. its a wild animal. he did pretty much all he had to do. claim it was wounded and in town. he worried it would hurt someone or it was suffering (both of witch IF it was wounded is true).

nothing is going to happen unless they come out with real proof. witch they don't have (again wich is my point. i do suspect he did it for the kill and meat).

What part of him not filing a report don't you understand? The whole "it was wounded" excuse only came up AFTER he was caught. If he wasn't poaching, he'd have reported it.

 

[Iron Woode]

I take issue with the mourners.

As for the cop; he needs to be disciplined. What happens to him will be up to the dept.

 

[Geosurface]

 

[preslove]

I take issue with the mourners.

As for the cop; he needs to be disciplined. What happens to him will be up to the dept.

Huh, I take issue with law breaking cop who shot an animal that the neighborhood had a soft spot for. If I lived there and some piece of shit who had no business with a badge shot it, I might show up. I'd do it more to talk to my neighbors about organizing to get the shitstain who shot it fired than anything else, though.