Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

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Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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I can't believe the DoD is getting in bed with starling, this guy is a pretty obvious security risk and might wake up one day and decide to block all US DoD traffic or provide it to our enemies.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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I can't believe the DoD is getting in bed with starling, this guy is a pretty obvious security risk and might wake up one day and decide to block all US DoD traffic or provide it to our enemies.

I think its because there's no obvious alternative to Starlink at the moment but they're going to give out contracts to other companies and the moment there's an alternative, they'll dump his ass!
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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I can't believe the DoD is getting in bed with starling, this guy is a pretty obvious security risk and might wake up one day and decide to block all US DoD traffic or provide it to our enemies.
He might, but he would quickly end up in prison and his assets would be seized.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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You don't need a F-250 King Ranch to drive on snowy dirt roads, though.
Nope, that's a dick mobile. The cheapest 2023 f150 trim with 4x4 starts at 71k. 67k for a 2022. Yeah blah blah used is better blah blah, my point is it's fucking expensive now, across the board. Hell Tesla vehicles don't even seem expensive compared to this shit anymore. Remember when people freaked out over the 35k price tag on the 3's as being out of touch with the target market? That's on par with a Honda Accord today.
 
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Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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Nope, that's a dick mobile. The cheapest 2023 f150 trim with 4x4 starts at 71k. 67k for a 2022. Yeah blah blah used is better blah blah, my point is it's fucking expensive now, across the board. Hell Tesla vehicles don't even seem expensive compared to this shit anymore. Remember when people freaked out over the 35k price tag on the 3's as being out of touch with the target market? That's on par with a Honda Accord today.

uhhh i just went to ford's website, picked the cheapest model in the F150 configurator, added 4x4, and got... 40k, not 71k. you sure you didn't find the nearest 4x4 in your area? would make sense for a dealer to have a 71k F150 on the lot.

also, the maverick (26k w/ 4x4+ecoboost) and ranger (33k w/ 4x4) now exist too
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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I still can't get over the genius at Ford that thought they needed to bring back the Maverick moniker.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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I still can't get over the genius at Ford that thought they needed to bring back the Maverick moniker.


They shouldn't have insulted Tom Cruise's call sign that way, maybe thinking his aura would give the badge a boost via name association. At the least they should'a upgraded the name to something really catchy like Pyro Pinto and still keep it within the Ford family because Pacer was AMG's claim to inglorious fame.
 
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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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They shouldn't have insulted Tom Cruise's call sign that way, maybe thinking his aura would give the badge a boost via name association. At the least they should'a upgraded the name to something really catchy like Pyro Pinto and still keep it within the Ford family because Pacer was AMG's claim to inglorious fame.
I think Maverick is perfect, a little truck named for a little feller.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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uhhh i just went to ford's website, picked the cheapest model in the F150 configurator, added 4x4, and got... 40k, not 71k. you sure you didn't find the nearest 4x4 in your area? would make sense for a dealer to have a 71k F150 on the lot.

also, the maverick (26k w/ 4x4+ecoboost) and ranger (33k w/ 4x4) now exist too
I was going off Ford's site that said the limited was the cheapest trim with 4x4, maybe I was misreading/misinterpreting something.

EDIT: I see now, standard on limited trim, avail on cheaper. That still parks you at 40 which is more expensive than my top trim Camaro when I bought it.
 

compcons

Platinum Member
Oct 22, 2004
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I was going off Ford's site that said the limited was the cheapest trim with 4x4, maybe I was misreading/misinterpreting something.

EDIT: I see now, standard on limited trim, avail on cheaper. That still parks you at 40 which is more expensive than my top trim Camaro when I bought it.
But hauling drywall in that Camaro is a real pain in the ass for sure
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
69,526
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Resale on my FJ has gone up by $3K in the past two years! I ain't selling it anyway but that's weird for a non-classic automobile.
 

Heartbreaker

Diamond Member
Apr 3, 2006
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Resale on my FJ has gone up by $3K in the past two years! I ain't selling it anyway but that's weird for a non-classic automobile.

Nearly everything went up. With the FJ at least it makes sense as they are kind of rare, with a bit of cult status.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
Jan 14, 2013
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Ironically, if you shorted every investment ponyo suggested this year from Elon to peloton to crypto, you'd be rich.

I wish you didn't @ him so I could get good investment advice next year
 

GodisanAtheist

Diamond Member
Nov 16, 2006
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I feel bad for the word "Genius".

I'm not going to pretend Elon Musk is some schlub because he has accomplished a lot in his life, not something even people born into the same level of wealth are really expected to accomplish, but he hasn't fundamentally done anything novel or different than millions of other business owners in collecting other very competent people around him and giving them a mission. He's successful because he's obviously very capable, but he sure as shit isn't a genius.

I wish we could recognize and lionize qualities like grit, determination, cunning, empathy etc like we do intelligence.

Newton? Fuckin Uber genius. Einstein? Top class genius. Gandi? Not stupid by a longshot, but not a GENIUS. And I don't mean that to detract from his accomplishments, but we can respect his accomplishments while also recognizing that they're not the result of sheer intellectual capability but a host of other equally valid and valuable human qualities.
 

Heartbreaker

Diamond Member
Apr 3, 2006
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I guess you never got one for a rental back in the day.

Since it wasn't that well loved back in the day, and it was about 50 years ago, I doubt most people even knew there was another Ford Maverick, so reusing the name is a complete non issue.

Sounds like a decent truck name to me.
 

ralfy

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He argues that the company was around $3 billion in the hole but he rescued it by major cost cutting, including firing overpaid and useless employees, which explains why operations continued even after they were removed. Now wants someone to take over management while he works with software teams to deal with issues like 'bots.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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He argues that the company was around $3 billion in the hole but he rescued it by major cost cutting, including firing overpaid and useless employees, which explains why operations continued even after they were removed. Now wants someone to take over management while he works with software teams to deal with issues like 'bots.
LOL

the $2B in ad revenue he has driven away and the $1.5B in debt service costs he saddled the company with means he blew a 3.5B hole in the balance sheet


Did you miss these details in your linked article?
 

Tsinni Dave

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I guess you never got one for a rental back in the day.
In defence of the original Maverick the Grabber V8 was one of the few performance{ish} cars available in the post fuel crisis mid '70's U.S.

Considering the Mustang was a rebadged Pinto at the time, the Grabber was a 302 V8 rear wheel drive "musclecar", albeit just a bit of a flaccid muscle compared to a few years earlier or 40 years later. It could go from zero to wrapped around a tree just as quickly as any other V8 rear wheel drive car of the day.
Edit - check out that front bumper made out of a piece of glorified tin foil.
 
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fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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LOL

the $2B in ad revenue he has driven away and the $1.5B in debt service costs he saddled the company with means he blew a 3.5B hole in the balance sheet


Did you miss these details in your linked article?
Look at that business genius Elon Musk - saving Twitter from the fiscal crisis that Elon Musk caused.

I would like someone who still promotes this clown to answer what exactly he has made better.
 
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