Twitter outage: Elon Musk says ‘works for me’ as users report problems with website
The technical failure comes after mass layoffs at the tech firm following its takeover by Elon Muskwww.theguardian.com
And, it may be a total coincidence, but it was just four days ago that he bragged about pulling the plug on an “important server rack.”
Separately, there have been reports that Musk decided (with little to no notice, and almost no planning) to shut down its Sacramento data center and massively downsize their Atlanta data center. Twitter only has one other data center in the US, in Portland, Oregon. Twitter’s use of data centers rather than the cloud is something that’s been discussed over the years, and two years ago the company did sign a deal to start using Amazon Web Services, though I don’t think the company relies to heavily on it yet, and the first link in this paragraph notes that Elon has been trying to renegotiate the AWS contract as well (which might mean he’s also stopped paying the bills as he seems to have done that with many vendors as part of his “renegotiation” efforts).
Separately, I’ve heard from three separate people that Elon more or less ordered the shutdown of the an entire data center (presumably the Sacramento one) with basically one day’s notice and no planning.
And, with that in mind, I’ll remind people that one part of former Twitter security chief Peiter “Mudge” Zatko’s whistleblower report noted that the company had a deep need for more redundancy, not less:
Insufficient data center redundancy, without a plan to cold-boot or recover from even minor overlapping data center failure, raising the risk of a brief outage to that of a catastrophic and existential risk for Twitter’s survival
Wouldnt it be funny if that data breach was connected to the outage that people at large is reporting? If someone was able to change folks passwords based on that data? It’d be hilarious.Did that 400 million user data ransom from post #5116 actually occur or was that a fake?
As others have mentioned I find it very interesting that Elon Musk is so vehemently criticizing a US doctor for supposedly supplying funding to labs in China that 'invented COVID' but as far as I can tell has not had one bad word to say about the Chinese government that owned and operated the labs.Somewhere in San Francisco Musk is unplugging servers one at a time to try and figure out what each one does. He should probably fire some more people.
His most recent tweets are all about how Dr. Fauci invented covid.
And ... Musk really doesn’t understand this whole pronouns thing he’s so pissed off about.
Gets the institutions currently holding the bulk of twitter debt to sell it off for pennies on the dollar, allowing him to purchase it at a much lower amount than what he currently "owes" them from the original $44B purchase. Then takes it public again later thinking to reap more from that than what he originally put in. It's a gamble.
Personally, I think there's more to it than that. There was an interesting article I read this week that this is part of some crypto vs US Dollar destabilzation effort being run based on who is really backing him (middle eastern $$$) and what effect a swing in Twitter policies could do to assist that. A lot of shady fuckers would gain substantially in that scenario. If that's true, he really doesn't care about the US $ he'll "lose" in all of this because the benefits he would get from the alternative would dwarf it in the long run. Next step would be a failure to increase the debt ceiling in the next congress (or before) leading to issues with the dollar.
As others have mentioned I find it very interesting that Elon Musk is so vehemently criticizing a US doctor for supposedly supplying funding to labs in China that 'invented COVID' but as far as I can tell has not had one bad word to say about the Chinese government that owned and operated the labs.
If Musk truly believes that a virus which killed millions was created in a lab I would think he would be very upset at the people who own that lab! As far as I can tell though he's never criticized them even once. How odd.
It kind of made sense once you realize that the GOP has become the party of conspiracy theorists, especially when it comes to Covid. And it seems Musk went right down that rabbit hole. This is literally how conspiracy theorists think - “If I can prove one thing wrong, then EVERYTHING is wrong!” If Fauci says one thing wrong (for example: the mask statement they ran with a couple years ago), then everything we have been told about Covid by Fauci is a lie.
It’s like how they spend years obsessing over minute details of things like shadows in photos of the Moon landings, because if they can show that one shadow is “off" or "wrong", then the whole Moon landing was faked.
What I see with discussions of the “lab release” conspiracy. If anyone with actual expertise and knowledge says, “Well, if it was released by a lab, we’d expect to see these characteristics. However, we don’t see those characteristics, so it probably wasn’t released by a lab”. The mere fact that the theory was being discussed, even if it was immediately dismissed by experts, is proof that “they knew it came from a lab and are lying about it!!!”
It makes conspiracy theories attractive because once you have gone down the rabbit hole, you can feel like you know what’s going on by manufacturing or believing in a simple, childish, factually unconstrained narrative. The lie that ‘it’s all simple’ is emotionally appealing to those who prefer a life lived without effort and critical thinking skills. It requires no work. All you have to do is accept what the conspiracy monger tells you. And a heaping helping of self-serving delusion and flattery in every ‘Only WE know the truth of it!’ message.
Sometimes a witness may say something that is not consistent with
something else the witness said. Sometimes different witnesses will give
different versions of what happened. People often forget things or make
mistakes in what they remember. Also, two people may see the same
event but remember it differently. You may consider these differences,
but do not decide that testimony is untrue just because it differs from
other testimony.
However, if you decide that a witness did not tell the truth about
something important, you may choose not to believe anything that
witness said. On the other hand, if you think the witness did not tell the
truth about some things but told the truth about others, you may accept
the part you think is true and ignore the rest.
I think Sartre nailed these guys a long time ago. This nonsense is a feature, not a bug.When I used to debate holocaust deniers online, one of their mottos was falsus in uno falsus in omnibus. Meaning false in one thing, false in all things. They like to use latin phrases because they have an inferiority complex and they think it makes them sound smart. They are not. Falsus in uno falsus in omnibus is a fallacy. The simplist way to prove this point is to ask the propenent of this phrase if they have ever even once lied in their lives. That usually ends the discussion.
I once quoted the following California standard jury instruction regarding witness credibility. The deniers were silent.
That is common sense. That stupid Latin phrase, not so much.
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
When I used to debate holocaust deniers online, one of their mottos was falsus in uno falsus in omnibus. Meaning false in one thing, false in all things. They like to use latin phrases because they have an inferiority complex and they think it makes them sound smart. They are not. Falsus in uno falsus in omnibus is a fallacy. The simplist way to prove this point is to ask the propenent of this phrase if they have ever even once lied in their lives. That usually ends the discussion.
I once quoted the following California standard jury instruction regarding witness credibility. The deniers were silent.
That is common sense. That stupid Latin phrase, not so much.
On top of that, they view any sort of deviation from the previous advice or statements as being “lies” or “not telling the truth”, even when the absolute truth isn’t known, or what we thought was correct has changed.
So while people with expertise with a bit of nuance and sense know that as the situation changes, so do the recommendations. No sense of nuance is a big problem. Anyone who discusses any kind of hypothetical in any way is taken as “proof” that the hypothetical is “what really happened”. The Covid CT crowd seems to hold, Fauci or the government to an unreasonable standard of immediate and absolute truth. They have to know the right answer the first time, and communicate it right then, because any sort of changes or about-face indicates a “lie”
I think Sartre nailed these guys a long time ago. This nonsense is a feature, not a bug.
That being said, when it comes to Musk my armchair diagnosis is that he desperately craves positive attention. Liberals stopped giving it to him so he's mad at them and wants to hurt them (or their feelings, or whatever). Conservatives give him the adulation he needs so desperately so he's willing to play along to keep that validation going. I do think he shares some genuine right wing beliefs with them such as hostility towards transgender people and things like that but it seems those also stem from his ego being wounded.
Odd that if he hates shutdowns so much he hasn’t had a word to say about much harsher shutdown measures in China! The world wonders.IIRC, Musk really went off the rails when COVID rules were impacting his ability to build cars with shutdowns in California. This is when he started throwing everything at the wall to discredit the threat of COVID, and where he got mad and said he was moving Tesla HQ to Texas.
Then every stupid COVID thing he said, drew some backlash, and he doubled down, on more stupid COVID stuff, more backlash, forming a downward spiral into GQP land.
As others have mentioned I find it very interesting that Elon Musk is so vehemently criticizing a US doctor for supposedly supplying funding to labs in China that 'invented COVID' but as far as I can tell has not had one bad word to say about the Chinese government that owned and operated the labs.
If Musk truly believes that a virus which killed millions was created in a lab I would think he would be very upset at the people who own that lab! As far as I can tell though he's never criticized them even once. How odd.
Musk desperately needs China. Needs China for low wages, lithium *, sales potential **, etc. Musk says and does stupid things on a hair-trigger, but he isn't completely dumb.Odd that if he hates shutdowns so much he hasn’t had a word to say about much harsher shutdown measures in China! The world wonders.
I 100% agree with your comments about Sartre but disagree about Musk.I think Sartre nailed these guys a long time ago. This nonsense is a feature, not a bug.
That being said, when it comes to Musk my armchair diagnosis is that he desperately craves positive attention. Liberals stopped giving it to him so he's mad at them and wants to hurt them (or their feelings, or whatever). Conservatives give him the adulation he needs so desperately so he's willing to play along to keep that validation going. I do think he shares some genuine right wing beliefs with them such as hostility towards transgender people and things like that but it seems those also stem from his ego being wounded.
Odd that if he hates shutdowns so much he hasn’t had a word to say about much harsher shutdown measures in China! The world wonders.
Yes though otherwise I agree. People make fun of him or call him dumb so he gets mad and doubles down. Rinse, repeat.
I have no opinion as to if SpaceX will go to Mars or not (I don’t care) but I think SpaceX has dramatically improved the world by cutting the costs to put something into orbit into a tiny fraction of what it cost not very long ago. This is a major achievement that should not be glossed over. People will say this is due to government contracts and sure but ULA had access to the same contracts (and more, really) and didn’t do shit.I 100% agree with your comments about Sartre but disagree about Musk.
Musk bought twitter and went to the right-wing because his decade of lying to liberals was finally coming due. TSLA will never have FSD. SpaceX will never go to Mars. Starlink will never be profitable. Neuralink will never be the Matrix. And so forth.
Liberals were finally getting wise to all this, so he ran to the protection of the people who care more about tribalism than truth, and bought up a social media to ensure that those people heard only his propaganda.
Musk, Thiel, and that crowd are playing the long game in order to end democracy and restore to power the aristocracy of the past. Buying twitter was not a mistake.
Ok, Ill resurrect this side plot for a second.
So was reading Seth on post and stumbled on this
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"Now he is publicly discussing purchasing Substack and publicly confessing that the reason for doing so would be to control the “narrative” layer of the internet."
What the fuck?
Elon Musk ‘open to the idea’ of adding Substack newsletters to Twitter
Elon Musk has said he is open to Twitter buying Substack, the newsletter start-up, in an attempt to diversify his social network beyond short posts and to challwww.thetimes.co.uk
What if, just what if, what if the devaluation of TSLA and all the other crap is actually part of the plot? Is there a scenario where Elmo is not strung out on acid and we're watching an elaborate plan being executed in real time?
Yea yea 1,2-doesnt make a pattern.. Until it does. Still it's giant pointer that direction so thought I'd hit the thread up and connect with a callback.
Ok @Vic maybe you’re right, haha.Can you short your own stock?
That’s exactly the point. I’m very, very far from the first person to raise this but the reason why Hollywood, the NBA, Apple, etc. never criticize China is because they depend on China and they know the government will retaliate.No doubt, he knows his antics won't fly in China. In the USA he's protected by the rule of law, so he's capable of showing some restraint when he wants to.