Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

[Brovane]

They will. They've been doing it for decades. They were caught behind the times but they are coming now. Tesla will not have that first to market allure for long. Also Tesla is terrible about putting out new models. They rarely come out and they area always delayed. What's the Cybertruck now, 3 years delayed? What about self-driving? OH that's just 8 years of vaporware.

Yeah but when? 2023? 2024? Further out? I have been hearing this since 2017 that the other manufacturers are coming with their BEV's. Anybody remember when the Bolt was going to be the Model 3 killer?

 

[Pens1566]

Yeah but when? 2023? 2024? Further out? I have been hearing this since 2017 that the other manufacturers are coming with their BEV's. Anybody remember when the Bolt was going to be the Model 3 killer?

They lost something like 12% market share last year alone, down to something like 60%. And that loss is increasing every year. With all the new models (especially the F150) it's not a great leap to see that trend keep up and even speed up. The product is stale, the quality is ... suspect, and the brand is now outright toxic to a large target demographic. It's not difficult to see it coming.

 

[fskimospy]

lol - now apparently Elon is firing people because his tweets aren’t getting enough attention.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623777351338270720

 

[Brovane]

They lost something like 12% market share last year alone, down to something like 60%. And that loss is increasing every year. With all the new models (especially the F150) it's not a great leap to see that trend keep up and even speed up. The product is stale, the quality is ... suspect, and the brand is now outright toxic to a large target demographic. It's not difficult to see it coming.

They lost 12% market share but sold 75% more cars in the US as compared to 2021. Did you not know that Tesla increased US deliveries by 75% in 2022 as compared to 2021 despite Musk's antics during 2022? It is possible for Tesla to lose market share and still sell more cars in the US because the overall share of BEV's in the US market is increasing rapidly.

 

[Indus]

lol - now apparently Elon is firing people because his tweets aren’t getting enough attention.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623777351338270720

I have him blocked!

Now watch as he makes sure no one can be blocked!

 

[Pens1566]

They lost 12% market share but sold 75% more cars in the US as compared to 2021. Did you not know that Tesla increased US deliveries by 75% in 2022 as compared to 2021 despite Musk's antics during 2022? It is possible for Tesla to lose market share and still sell more cars in the US because the overall share of BEV's in the US market is increasing rapidly.

That's great. I'm happy for them. It still doesn't change the calculations. They're losing their grip on the market. And there's nothing on the horizon that indicates that will slow or stop. Quite the opposite actually. Thanks to Phony Stark's antics ...

 

[Brovane]

That's great. I'm happy for them. It still doesn't change the calculations. They're losing their grip on the market. And there's nothing on the horizon that indicates that will slow or stop. Quite the opposite actually. Thanks to Phony Stark's antics ...

I am not following how it matters if Tesla loses overall market share if they keep growing YoY sales because the overall BEV market is expanding?

 

[hal2kilo]

lol - now apparently Elon is firing people because his tweets aren’t getting enough attention.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623777351338270720

How Trump like.

 

[Zorba]

They lost 12% market share but sold 75% more cars in the US as compared to 2021. Did you not know that Tesla increased US deliveries by 75% in 2022 as compared to 2021 despite Musk's antics during 2022? It is possible for Tesla to lose market share and still sell more cars in the US because the overall share of BEV's in the US market is increasing rapidly.

You are the one that asked if this will be the year they drop below 50% market share.

Yeah but when? 2023? 2024? Further out? I have been hearing this since 2017 that the other manufacturers are coming with their BEV's. Anybody remember when the Bolt was going to be the Model 3 killer?

 

[cytg111]

I am not following how it matters if Tesla loses overall market share if they keep growing YoY sales because the overall BEV market is expanding?

Zorba beat me to it. You ok?

 

[Pens1566]

I am not following how it matters if Tesla loses overall market share if they keep growing YoY sales because the overall BEV market is expanding?

You asked about it, I answered. And now you don't like the results so you're moving the goalposts.

Elon isn't gonna fuck you.

 

[MrSquished]

You asked about it, I answered. And now you don't like the results so you're moving the goalposts.

Elon isn't gonna fuck you.

Which blow up doll does he touch the most? The fascist Modi or Elon you think?

 

[uclaLabrat]

You asked about it, I answered. And now you don't like the results so you're moving the goalposts.

Elon isn't gonna fuck you.

I mean he might if he has a twitter account.

 

[MrSquished]

How Trump like.

I think calling him a mini Trump as far as his personality issues was spot on. So was calling him a megalomaniac narcissist.

 

[compcons]

That's great. I'm happy for them. It still doesn't change the calculations. They're losing their grip on the market. And there's nothing on the horizon that indicates that will slow or stop. Quite the opposite actually. Thanks to Phony Stark's antics ...

It's funny that the cult of Tesla can't grasp what will happen to it as real car manufacturers turn their billions towards making EVs. We already see way better cars coming from almost every established company. Imagine what happens to little Tesla when the big 3 and the luxury brands are all churning out high quality EVs by the trainload.

Tesla has nothing compelling that keeps them relevant in the coming decade. They are going to be lost in a sea of innovation by companies that spend more on R&D than Tesla makes in a year. Don't think their stock price matters anymore. Unless the come up with flying cars, they are in the twilight of their existence.

I am glad that Tesla helped to create the market and Musk kept driving it along. They did their job and now will shuffle to the back of the pack as Benz, Audi, and BMW churn out luxury EVs and Ford and Chevy make it commonplace. Investors should seriously be thinking of what they do over the next few years. They won't be gobbled up by anyone, but they will continue to lose relevance.

 

[MrSquished]

It's funny that the cult of Tesla can't grasp what will happen to it as real car manufacturers turn their billions towards making EVs. We already see way better cars coming from almost every established company. Imagine what happens to little Tesla when the big 3 and the luxury brands are all churning out high quality EVs by the trainload.

Tesla has nothing compelling that keeps them relevant in the coming decade. They are going to be lost in a sea of innovation by companies that spend more on R&D than Tesla makes in a year. Don't think their stock price matters anymore. Unless the come up with flying cars, they are in the twilight of their existence.

I am glad that Tesla helped to create the market and Musk kept driving it along. They did their job and now will shuffle to the back of the pack as Benz, Audi, and BMW churn out luxury EVs and Ford and Chevy make it commonplace. Investors should seriously be thinking of what they do over the next few years. They won't be gobbled up by anyone, but they will continue to lose relevance.

Unless they get a new CEO and management. Their current CEO is firing top engineers at Twitter because he's mad that he's not getting as many impressions as he used to.

If Tesla is going to do well it has to be without him, and his fake self-driving salesmanship is not looking very good on him anymore either.

 

[cytg111]

When the not-mtg-crazy republicans rejects your bullshit

https://twitter.com/x/status/1622789956375613443

I feel like he is about to go defcon 3 on jewish people? Is the Kanye thing contagious?

 

[MrSquished]

When the not-mtg-crazy republicans rejects your bullshit

https://twitter.com/x/status/1622789956375613443

I feel like he is about to go defcon 3 on jewish people? Is the Kanye thing contagious?

Yeah the problem with this is the non-crazy Republicans may be consist of 10-20% of their party. I mean in the senate they got 20% of Republicans to vote on even the most basic sensible bipartisan legislation. And the senators are supposed to be the bigger adults.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Which blow up doll does he touch the most? The fascist Modi or Elon you think?

I think you're getting confused. Brovane is the dude that wants to sew his lips to Musk's asshole. Braznor is the one that wants to sew his lips to Modi's asshole.

I think calling him a mini Trump as far as his personality issues was spot on. So was calling him a megalomaniac narcissist.

Honestly at this point I think the key differences are that Musk didn't make himself the center of attention until later, so other people exploited him to make cool stuff (make electric cars viable, make reusable rockets viable) whereas Turmp had to have his name on everything which meant no one wanted to make anything cool from it. Well, and that Turmp is apparently trying to beat the guy who's eaten 30,000 Big Macs while Musk probably took "youth serum" literal and has the first ejaculate of pubescent boys injected into his scrotum (wait, is that why he's trying to have so many illegitimate children, he's hoping to cache in later?). Someone should investigate sperm banks and see who's been funding them and probably check to see if they're some form of ponzi scheme. Wait, wait, just got the newest tech idea! Digital semen! Think of the NFT possibilities!

 

[Bitek]

It's funny that the cult of Tesla can't grasp what will happen to it as real car manufacturers turn their billions towards making EVs. We already see way better cars coming from almost every established company. Imagine what happens to little Tesla when the big 3 and the luxury brands are all churning out high quality EVs by the trainload.

Tesla has nothing compelling that keeps them relevant in the coming decade. They are going to be lost in a sea of innovation by companies that spend more on R&D than Tesla makes in a year. Don't think their stock price matters anymore. Unless the come up with flying cars, they are in the twilight of their existence.

I am glad that Tesla helped to create the market and Musk kept driving it along. They did their job and now will shuffle to the back of the pack as Benz, Audi, and BMW churn out luxury EVs and Ford and Chevy make it commonplace. Investors should seriously be thinking of what they do over the next few years. They won't be gobbled up by anyone, but they will continue to lose relevance.

I want to see Tesla handle a model refresh even. Cyber truck is still vaporware, and the 3s and Ys are looking dated and cheap. The grill-less front bumper just looks like a Tupperware air dam. Whole car looks like a blob of plastic.

That being said, when the stock was down near $100 recently I seriously considered buying a bunch, too many big players out too much money to stay that low, but Musk's douchebagosity swayed me away. Oops.

 

[gorobei]

technically tesla isnt looking at a deadend, it has some remaining advantages in manufacturing and profit margins. but so long as Elmo remains in charge and keeps OPUD and spewing the alt right tweets, tsla will have a much harder road ahead.

right now tsla is integrating newer manufacturing into their factories way faster than the ICE automakers. the gigapress is just vacuum injected casting, Yamaha was doing this 15 years ago with the primary chassis frame on their sportbikes. the 'giga' just means way larger part size. the primary advantages is the single part comes out dimensionally correct with no further modification by machine/man. current stamped parts done in multiple sections require tons of additional tweaking work to get a large frame section in tolerance. with no tweaks due to casting you can eliminate production steps/stations, the robots to pick and move the stamped parts, manhours; the cost,time, and factory floor area savings are hundreds of millions. the other makers are only starting to get into casting.

ford and gm in their transition to all/mostly BEV will need to build a factory line from scratch which the autoline guy says wont be ready until at least 2025.
so tsla has at least 2 years where they have cheaper costs and bigger margins.

but all that is irrelevant if elmo keeps 'sticking it to the dems' and thus antagonizing his primary customer demographic. ford is going to sell f-150 lightnings for probably 2 years before cybertruck comes out in volume. that is 2 years of ev truck buyers who will be locked in for ~5 years before they consider buying/replacing that truck, so that many customers tsla wont have.

i give props to the engineers at tsla and spacex doing real innovation, but it will be for naught if the idiot man child keeps 'free-speeching' those companies into questionable futures.

 

[soundforbjt]

Elon sitting with Rupert Murdoch and his wife at the Super Bowl, wonder what they were talking about.

 

[Tsinni Dave]

Elon sitting with Rupert Murdoch and his wife at the Super Bowl, wonder what they were talking about.

The simple joys of crushing trans people, worker's rights and objective reality?

 

[iRONic]

The simple joys of crushing trans people, worker's rights and objective reality?

That was just the icebreaker…

 

[darkswordsman17]

The simple joys of crushing trans people, worker's rights and objective reality?

Probably getting jealous at the women scarfing the hot dogs next to them.

Honestly though, Musk was probably happy to be around that many people that weren't booing him for a change. Murdoch probably thinks he's appealing to common man and also looking smart sitting next to Musk. Bet he starts trying to be visible more in his old age to try and rehab his image. And I bet it backfires badly because he's just such a despicable piece of shit that enables other despicable pieces of shit.