Absolutely brilliant
But what?I mean I get it, nature is important….. BUT
Yea, probably one of Elon's ideas that he forced through... BUT spacex gotta keep pushing right? If Starship makes it, comes to fruition, it's a game changer. Fried frogs be damned.But what?
The whole pad saga here seems like it was just based on pure stupidity and cost cutting. It's not like there haven't been hundreds of launches over the past 75 years to help guide optimal pad design...
What does Starship change? The gravity well is as deep as ever and the energy required to overcome it won’t have changed.Yea, probably one of Elon's ideas that he forced through... BUT spacex gotta keep pushing right? If Starship makes it, comes to fruition, it's a game changer. Fried frogs be damned.
You can have innovation without stupidity, while also protecting wildlife habitats.Yea, probably one of Elon's ideas that he forced through... BUT spacex gotta keep pushing right? If Starship makes it, comes to fruition, it's a game changer. Fried frogs be damned.
i believe the launch cost ($/kg) is dramatically reduced compared to existing vehicles. and the capacity is larger than most other space vehiclesYou can have innovation without stupidity, while also protecting wildlife habitats.
As for "Starship being a game changer" - game changer for what?
IDK. Modern man is pretty good at combining innovation with stupidity.You can have innovation without stupidity, while also protecting wildlife habitats.
And 100% Elmo is like "I dont get it, why they boo me?"
Of course you can. Just saying that if you want to push innovation, some eggs gonna get cracked. Dont hold off license for a year to study the impact on local sandworms.You can have innovation without stupidity, while also protecting wildlife habitats.
As for "Starship being a game changer" - game changer for what?
Why don't you make up some more strawmen while you're at it?Of course you can. Just saying that if you want to push innovation, some eggs gonna get cracked. Dont hold off license for a year to study the impact on local sandworms.
Why don't you make up some more strawmen while you're at it?
Innovation is fine, but again, doesn't have to come at the expense of destroying the environment, especially if that environmental area was (key part here) **already identified as protected**. Innovation also doesn't mean reinvent the wheel and ignore all the past key learnings.
Do you think that maybe when they built that pad on the Texas coast adjacent to an existing protected wildlife area they could have built it in a way that used existing best practices (learned over decades of rocket launches at those facilities you note), like flame trenches or water deluge systems, instead of stupidly making it a flat piece of cement that got blown to pieces at ignition?Do you think when they built LC39A and LC39B and the VAB at the Cape that the environment wasn't impacted?
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Do you think that maybe when they built that pad on the Texas coast adjacent to an existing protected wildlife area they could have built it in a way that used existing best practices (learned over decades of rocket launches at those facilities you note), like flame trenches or water deluge systems, instead of stupidly making it a flat piece of cement that got blown to pieces at ignition?
I was just watching something on one of the Discovery shows about the very early rocket testing site with German V2 tech. Guess what? It has a big flame trench. This was in like 1950.Do you think that maybe when they built that pad on the Texas coast adjacent to an existing protected wildlife area they could have built it in a way that used existing best practices (learned over decades of rocket launches at those facilities you note), like flame trenches or water deluge systems, instead of stupidly making it a flat piece of cement that got blown to pieces at ignition?
Repeating the mistakes of the past isn't innovation.
Are you saying NASA made a mistake in how they built LC39A and B?
Ahem.Yea, probably one of Elon's ideas that he forced through... BUT spacex gotta keep pushing right? If Starship makes it, comes to fruition, it's a game changer. Fried frogs be damned.
I'm gonna put this expectation right up there with FSD was gonna turn Teslas into an income-generating robotaxis.i believe the launch cost ($/kg) is dramatically reduced compared to existing vehicles. and the capacity is larger than most other space vehicles
just for reference, a quick google indicates existing launch costs are somewhere around $2000-$3000/kg (payload). starship is anticipated to cut that by a factor of 10x, down to the 100's of $/kg
I'm gonna put this expectation right up there with FSD was gonna turn Teslas into an income-generating robotaxis.
What impact do you think if any a fully rapid reusable Launch Vehicle would have for the US Space Industry?