Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

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Capitalists always want more well-compensated employees serfs

I've posted this before (pretty sure in this thread, maybe multiple times), its actually more fucked up than that. Its basically capitalist eugenics, where they believe that them being rich is proof of their superior genetics and therefore its their duty to have as many children as possible to try to make some fucked up capitalist master race.

This aspect of Musk really has not been written about enough (I'm assuming out of some concern for the children), and it has been there for like 2 decades at this point. I think there were rumors about the early-mid 2000s period that Musk was having to couch surf because he kept trying to fuck his rich "friends" wives and daughters so he kept getting kicked out because no one wanted to end up with one of his spawn.

People also don't know that was the impetus behind Epstein's shit too. He had a ranch in New Mexico that he was planning as a human "stud farm" where he'd bring in "the best" from like science, etc and have them fuck young women specifically to try and breed some superior human lineage. I know people were baffled about the bizarre number of academics and other similarly not typical of the jet-setting crowd that got rides on Epstein's plane.

This also ties into Turmp and evangelicals, as his "spiritual advisor" or whatever has been shilling a fucked up version of Christianity that claims that their wealth is because God is saying they are better. Pretty sure that's big with the megachurch people as well. I guarantee you there's been talk about needing to spread their seeds as well, if not active Epstein trafficking for that. And the general "have as many kids as possible" also ties to American Christianity and specifically the quiverful movement (check out the Duggars for how that's been going...).

I find it very strange that more people don't know about this stuff. Its got all the usual modern conservative shit, with blatant hypocrisy (they howl about non-whites and immigrants pumping out babies to replace them) and completely fucked up behavior. Its extra baffling that it gets lost or not reported on well even when specifically bringing up aspects of this shit (like, most people are aware of Epstein, and there's all sorts of conspiracy theories about rich and powerful trafficking rings, but I never see people talk about this shit and its directly connected to so many big things - this stuff is also connected to Putin and the the GOP and megawealthy getting in bed with Russia in the late 90s and early 2000s which can be seen with the weird emphasis on "adoptions" that Putin kept harping about due to the 2016 situation).

Which, its not that this stuff is directly connected so much, but rather the general fucked up mindset by the wealthy in the world since the early 1900s. People think that stuff like eugenics got dealt with. It really didn't. There's a through line in all of this stuff, from the 1900s with the stupid rah-rahing themselves into war, eugenics, rise of authoritarianism, all the way through, and now we're stuck with the shithead men for whom the edgelord 90s was their heyday, that got power and have been spreading their garbage thoughts since. But there's a throughline in all of this. The rise of dudebro and techbro where the dbag jocks and the inept asshole nerds coalesced into the most awful version giving us such great visionaries as Musk, Thiel, SBF, Facefuckerberg, and far too many others.

I hope people really start to realize how fucked up these people are and that the techbros, capitalists, evangelists and right wing shitheads are turning into the same thing and they're partnering up and preparing for war.
 

pmv

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I think you would find this is more common that anyone would want to admit. One of my step-father's often used lines while growing up was "Stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about". There is probably plenty of other children who grew-up in the 70's and 80's who heard that same line. My wife would just get smacked in the face with a wooden spoon by her mother. We both made the commitment that when we had children to not be like our parents.

There were boys I knew at school who were clearly regularly in a state of fear at the awareness they were going to get a serious physical beating from their father over some misbehaviour-or-other. It was pretty obvious. And what struck me about it at the time, was how the effect of that form of discipline shifted over time. Pre-adolesecence it made those boys meek and relatively well-behaved. But then something seemed to shift in them, and it was as if (once they started gaining muscle mass, I suppose), they decided it was now time to put into practice the lessons they had quietly been learning about violence being the way to get what you want - and they became violent bullies.
 

Brovane

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There were boys I knew at school who were clearly regularly in a state of fear at the awareness they were going to get a serious physical beating from their father over some misbehaviour-or-other. It was pretty obvious. And what struck me about it at the time, was how the effect of that form of discipline shifted over time. Pre-adolesecence it made those boys meek and relatively well-behaved. But then something seemed to shift in them, and it was as if (once they started gaining muscle mass, I suppose), they decided it was now time to put into practice the lessons they had quietly been learning about violence being the way to get what you want - and they became violent bullies.

It is a vicious cycle and takes effort to break it. I also think bullying behavior with physical violence was a normal thing in white South African society for boys growing up. The South African white society taught boys growing up that violence is the way to get what you want. It was encouraged. Musk and his brother used to settle arguments by physically fighting each other even after they went into business together. That is not what I would consider normal, growing up in the US but apparently it was perfectly normal for South Africa.
 
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The eugenics stuff is complicated - I mean, _everybody_ was into eugenics back in the pre-Nazi days - major figures of left and right alike, from Winston Churchill to George Bernard Shaw, were keen on the idea. Social-Democratic Sweden really went all in on it, nearly as much as Nazi Germany.

Yet the one exception would have been Catholics. The Catholic church is slightly obsessed with everyone producing lots of babies, at least as much as every other religion (which is another side to it - many of these religions tend to grow precisely because they encourage adherents to have as many offspring as possible), but has never had any truck with eugenics and selective breeding. In fairness to that church, they've always been inclined to value _all_ human life, in a way that simply isn't compatible with the hard-core eugenicist agenda.

So I think one has to separate the 'have as many kids as possible to further the religion/race/political ideology' idea from the billionaire's 'spread _my_ genes as far as possible, because they are the best genes' idea.
 

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Seems like “weird” would be more offensive which is weird.
"Cuck" doesn't bother them, because they know it doesn't ultimately have any real meaning, it's just some dumb shit they like to say.
But to suggest they're not "normal", that hits them at their core. To be conservative is, generally speaking, to desire conformity and enforce conformity, to have a defined, established standard for "normal" and eschew those who, for whatever reason, fall outside of "normal".
 

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"Cuck" doesn't bother them, because they know it doesn't ultimately have any real meaning, it's just some dumb shit they like to say.
But to suggest they're not "normal", that hits them at their core. To be conservative is, generally speaking, to desire conformity and enforce conformity, to have a defined, established standard for "normal" and eschew those who, for whatever reason, fall outside of "normal".

With the word "deplorable" Republicans took it up proudly. In the wake of her comment, we saw a wave of Republicans proudly proclaiming, “I’m a deplorable!”. They chose to interpret it as ‘being a maverick’ and ‘disapproved of by the nanny-types’ and similarly “strong” traits.

However, there’s really no way to interpret “weird” as being strong or defiant or disdainful of nanny-types or anything else glorious or even positive. ‘Weird’ is odd weak strange creepy not-right people who are rejected by normal people. There’s no way to recast that as admirable. No way for Trump’s cult to appropriate ‘weird’ and wear it proudly. But the Republicans will surely rally to “They are calling you good voters weird!” even though it's all about the politicians, not the voters. And telling the working-class folks that the politicians aren’t like them is exactly what is needed.
 
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brycejones

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Musk has set up a fake voter registration site to harvest data from people in swing states.


That can’t possibly be legal??, even in a country that values corporatocracy above personal privacy and election integrity. Musk is free to campaign for Trump, but not by using false pretenses?
Good luck getting the toothless FEC to do a fucking thing.
 
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cytg111

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And he might win.

The republic will stand.

You guys dont get it.

Greenie believes in this trope:

"The US was never supposed to be a democracy anyway"

Cause - it's a Republic.

And without really understanding the conceptual differences he assumes that you can have a republic without democratic principles.

... Cause reading is not his thing.
 
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