Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

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fskimospy

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Yeah elmo is a pig.
I wonder if she will reply or ignore him.
Kelce ought to challenge elmo to a cage match but elmo would chicken out
just like he did with zuckerberg.
Apparently he has been trying unsuccessfully to get her attention for years, which is very amusing. To the best of my knowledge she has never replied.
 
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Zorba

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It isn't just SpaceX it is other commercial launch providers that are having gripes with the way that the FAA is currently licensing space launches. The FAA needs to make changes with the way they manage space launches because of the higher launch cadence. The article goes into detail on several issues and the space industry does have legitimate complaints with the way that the FAA is currently managing space launch licensing. Congress is also pushing the FAA to make changes from both sides of the Aisle.
They are straight up complaining about regulations and showing compliance with them. Their quotes weren't but just that the FAA is being slow. It's unprofessional and it creates a culture within a company that its okay to ignore regulations, because they are petty or ridiculous, etc.
 
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Stokely

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Yeah elmo is a pig.
I wonder if she will reply or ignore him.
Kelce ought to challenge elmo to a cage match but elmo would chicken out
just like he did with zuckerberg.

I'd love it if she simply left the platform. Whatever other one she goes to/focuses on will get a big boost.

I read that a bunch of advertisers are going to leave, which I guess means after whatever contract they now have expires? In any case, talk is cheap. If people and companies actually started putting their money where their mouth was, it might affect this pos.

Wife has a Tesla. There are pros and cons with it--the biggest pro is that we have solar at home--but at this point I'll never get one when it's "my turn" to buy (we have a one-car-payment-at-a-time-max policy here!). If he sold the company and they got interested in anything besides a vanity project turd like the Cybertruck, I'd reconsider.
 
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Yeah elmo is a pig.
I wonder if she will reply or ignore him.
Kelce ought to challenge elmo to a cage match but elmo would chicken out
just like he did with zuckerberg.
That whole musk vs Zuck was awesome. Musk thinking Zuckerberg was still some nerdy weak college guy but after challenging him he learns Zuck been spending his time building muscle and jujitsu training for years. He is not that small, weak guy anymore.
Suddenly Musk can’t do it because reasons.
 

nakedfrog

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I'd love it if she simply left the platform. Whatever other one she goes to/focuses on will get a big boost.

I read that a bunch of advertisers are going to leave, which I guess means after whatever contract they now have expires? In any case, talk is cheap. If people and companies actually started putting their money where their mouth was, it might affect this pos.

Wife has a Tesla. There are pros and cons with it--the biggest pro is that we have solar at home--but at this point I'll never get one when it's "my turn" to buy (we have a one-car-payment-at-a-time-max policy here!). If he sold the company and they got interested in anything besides a vanity project turd like the Cybertruck, I'd reconsider.
I think she may have mostly left it, the post that triggered Leon was on Instagram, not Twitter. There doesn't seem to be much recent activity on her Twitter account beyond promoting the latest album occasionally (as far as I can tell, not having a Twitter account anymore)
 

Brovane

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They are straight up complaining about regulations and showing compliance with them. Their quotes weren't but just that the FAA is being slow. It's unprofessional and it creates a culture within a company that its okay to ignore regulations, because they are petty or ridiculous, etc.

https://www.spacex.com/updates/#starships-fly

What are the unprofessional parts of SpaceX's full statement on the current situation?
 
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You know what would be amazing, is if she buys "truth social" for dirt cheap after it goes defunct and then makes her own social media that aggressively removes disinformation and bans AI fakes and the like. Or maybe turn it into a Snopes like thing that focuses on social media misinformation.

Or she could make her own Twitter alternative, call it Swift. Especially if she starts small and its mostly just short text/links, and limited in who can post to it, where its basically a glorified personal PR fan service. Wouldn't require much infrastructure. Or she could partner with others and make all sorts of alternatives. She could partner with top female artists so they can get away from the abuse they experience and just have to ignore/endure on other platforms. Then branch to like sports where Kelce, Mahomes could be investors and draws, get away from trash like ShitStoolSports and all the other garbage ass alternative sports social media stuff that is just tabloid blog dogshit. And they could get plenty of corporate investors if they turn it into the glorified PR service that corporations were using Twitter for.
 
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You know what would be amazing, is if she buys "truth social" for dirt cheap after it goes defunct and then makes her own social media that aggressively removes disinformation and bans AI fakes and the like. Or maybe turn it into a Snopes like thing that focuses on social media misinformation.

Or she could make her own Twitter alternative, call it Swift. Especially if she starts small and its mostly just short text/links, and limited in who can post to it, where its basically a glorified personal PR fan service. Wouldn't require much infrastructure. Or she could partner with others and make all sorts of alternatives. She could partner with top female artists so they can get away from the abuse they experience and just have to ignore/endure on other platforms. Then branch to like sports where Kelce, Mahomes could be investors and draws, get away from trash like ShitStoolSports and all the other garbage ass alternative sports social media stuff that is just tabloid blog dogshit. And they could get plenty of corporate investors if they turn it into the glorified PR service that corporations were using Twitter for.
While I certainly am not a swift expert, I am a deplorable expert.
All Swift needs to do to really irritate the former President is:
Visibly have more money than him, (she won’t like this part) talk about how much more you have than him
Be more entertaining on camera than him. She already is.
Have more people show up to see her, concerts don’t count I mean they show up to see her or have her sign something or listen to her talk.

Real easy, he is super shallow and above is what he wants. Money, respect and attention.
This is why he is unfit to be President. Far too easily manipulated.
 

APU_Fusion

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Swift should keep ignoring TrumpaMusk and doing her thing unless she wants to get more deeply involved in the ugly world that is American politics. It is a horrendous place to be nowadays.
 

Zorba

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https://www.spacex.com/updates/#starships-fly

What are the unprofessional parts of SpaceX's full statement on the current situation?
I already posted some of the quotes. Regardless posting an entire page bitching about the FAA would be considered insanely unprofessional from any legacy aerospace company. Boeing specifically would get their ass ripped apart if they posted a page like that complaining about how the FAA has made it impossible to certify aircraft.
 

Brovane

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I already posted some of the quotes. Regardless posting an entire page bitching about the FAA would be considered insanely unprofessional from any legacy aerospace company. Boeing specifically would get their ass ripped apart if they posted a page like that complaining about how the FAA has made it impossible to certify aircraft.

Reading the full details of what is going on I find SpaceX complaints perfectly reasonable.

Like for example the FAA consulting with the National Marine Fisheries Services about jettison of the hot-staging ring. Impacts had already been analyzed before IFT-4. Yet now they want to reconsult because of a slight change in location of where the hot-staging ring will land. It has been standard industry practice for the FAA and National Marine Fisheries Services that impact of rocket hardware dropping in the Ocean has minimal impact on marine life. Dropping launch hardware into the Ocean is industry standard practice and has already been analyzed extensively. What is gained by analyzing this issue again?

The part about the permit for the water deluge system also seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable complaint. SpaceX had the permit that it was told to get by the relevant government agencies and then later the government agencies changed their minds and decided that they needed a different permit despite being told earlier that the original permit they had was fine. Then those government agencies decided to fine SpaceX for not having the proper permit because they changed their minds. The agencies involved also agree that nothing has to change with the water deluge system for the new permit. They just need a different permit. Do you think this is reasonable?
 

Zorba

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Reading the full details of what is going on I find SpaceX complaints perfectly reasonable.

Like for example the FAA consulting with the National Marine Fisheries Services about jettison of the hot-staging ring. Impacts had already been analyzed before IFT-4. Yet now they want to reconsult because of a slight change in location of where the hot-staging ring will land. It has been standard industry practice for the FAA and National Marine Fisheries Services that impact of rocket hardware dropping in the Ocean has minimal impact on marine life. Dropping launch hardware into the Ocean is industry standard practice and has already been analyzed extensively. What is gained by analyzing this issue again?

The part about the permit for the water deluge system also seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable complaint. SpaceX had the permit that it was told to get by the relevant government agencies and then later the government agencies changed their minds and decided that they needed a different permit despite being told earlier that the original permit they had was fine. Then those government agencies decided to fine SpaceX for not having the proper permit because they changed their minds. The agencies involved also agree that nothing has to change with the water deluge system for the new permit. They just need a different permit. Do you think this is reasonable?
I don't know enough to make an opinion, except that it shouldn't be fighting with their regulator in the court of public opinion. To me it seems reasonable to look at the environmental impacts of debris making into a new area. I've also worked with waste water, a long time ago, and know the regulations are complicated. If they think they got fined over retroactive changes, they need to fight that in court.

Compared to what the FAA does with airlines and airframers, I don't think any of this is that big of a deal.

I also know that you can trust public statements from Elon companies as much as you can trust Fox News, maybe less. Regardless the statements I originally quoted were unprofessional and no one would tolerate that from Boeing or Delta Airlines.
 

Moonbeam

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Personally, I avoid this thread or anything involving Must, I don't do X links if I notice them as such and I think Musk is emotionally needy of attention and therefore profoundly egotistic. I also won't buy his cars. But I couldn't help noticing how Biden snubbed Tesla in favor of old Detroit auto companies an act of profound bigotry and stupidity in my opinion and for which I think modern day Emo Musk became predictably inevitable.
 

Moonbeam

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I call it the Michael Jackson syndrome.

The richer and more famous they get, the more isolated they become. They increasingly fire anyone who challenges them and surround themselves with sycophantic yes men. This creates a spiral of delusion and weirdness.
Look deeper. All that happened in my opinion is that an excess of privilege and a lack of social feed-back allows self hate that is in all of us to fester and manifest. Power corrupts for that reason, but only people who already have corruption within them. That the devil not being able to tempt Jesus is just a symbolic story illustrating this principle. Many people's principles are founded on fear of punishment. Only people whose principles are self rewarding can hold on to them. Real self respect is priceless. Do you really see yourself altering your obviously high moral standards if I were to give you billions of dollars? I think your decency and commitment to truth goes deeper than that.
 
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Personally, I avoid this thread or anything involving Must, I don't do X links if I notice them as such and I think Musk is emotionally needy of attention and therefore profoundly egotistic. I also won't buy his cars. But I couldn't help noticing how Biden snubbed Tesla in favor of old Detroit auto companies an act of profound bigotry and stupidity in my opinion and for which I think modern day Emo Musk became predictably inevitable.
When did Biden snub Tesla, and how was it bigoted?
 

cytg111

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I call it the Michael Jackson syndrome.

The richer and more famous they get, the more isolated they become. They increasingly fire anyone who challenges them and surround themselves with sycophantic yes men. This creates a spiral of delusion and weirdness.
Yes 100% this.
 

Moonbeam

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When did Biden snub Tesla, and how was it bigoted?

I leave you to decide if this is bigotry. I think it is. One of the unfortunate results of the labor management antipathy generated by capitalist greed that infects even Democrats, especially old school ones.
 
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I leave you to decide if this is bigotry. I think it is. One of the unfortunate results of the labor management antipathy generated by capitalist greed that infects even Democrats, especially old school ones.
Why should the Democratic Party roll out the red carpet for an anti-labor, right-wing conspiracy-peddling nut?
 

Moonbeam

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Why should the Democratic Party roll out the red carpet for an anti-labor, right-wing conspiracy-peddling nut?
Search me. How would I know. My point had nothing to do with that. Ignore Musk subject matter as much as I can because it only serves to magnify his potential to command way more attention to his views than is healthy. My actions are like Biden’s but I am a nobody and nobody knows or cares what I think of Musk, least of all him. I am saying that we’re I President I would not have been openly antagonistic to someone in the forefront of backstabbing the fossil fuel industry. I object to single issue politics and single issue causes.

When Mulla Nasrudin was a union member and commenting on a recent labor contract he lamented that the negotiations stipulated that workers would have to show up for work twice a month to collect their paycheck. Why, he complained, couldn’t they have swung a deal where you only had to do so only once a month.

When Mulla Nasrudin ran a snuggling business based on donkeys he saw the food bill for them ate way into his profits and just when he managed to get that under better control his donkeys died of starvation.

Mulla Nasrudin ran a smuggling business and advertised as such publically. Every time he would drive his donkeys across the border post loaded with huge bundles of straw which the customs agents would search diligently but never found a thing. His business was smuggling donkeys.
 

Moonbeam

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Then why link an article discussing said topic? It seems like you were very much making that point and now you want to back your way out of it with a giant wall of words, as is your typical style.
My point was that I wish people would not give Musk so much of their time of day when it come to his political views just because his richest man in the world based of other gifts that don’t translate into psychologically sound human wisdom, an area in which I see him as crippled and in no small part by his upbringing. I put this into effect by ignoring this thread his postings his businesses etc.

However, I check in here to see how things are going and noticed a lot fo hate Musk attention going his way. And since it is my job to straighten out everything going wrong on the internet I decided to comment on how Musk animosity is as bad as Musk worship. Doing that and defending it is just a consequence of the fact you have a poster here who would not consciously snub someone at the forefront of every independence for political reasons and thus turn him money into efforts to kick me out of office in favor of Trump. I would call that stupid liberal acting the part. Musk is now a worse problem than he used to be. Somebody hurt his feelings.

The world is a war of two year olds. I’m at least three, in my opinion.
 
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