Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

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alien42

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Less than half would have been his own money. And he was still finding new capitol investors and bank loans.


Wait what? Less then 7 billion is NOT even close to half.

As I previously posted...
"Musk is on the hook to pay $33.5 billion in cash"
 

alien42

Lifer
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Wanna know how I can tell you didn't read the article?

Please do tell. I'm not paying for a NY Times subscription, but I also don't have to to read the headline. Musk is not on the hook for "less than half" as you posted. Again, "Musk is on the hook to pay $33.5 billion in cash"

Wanna know how I know you didn't read the article I originally posted?
 
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Leeea

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I am hoping Twitter does not win, I do not want to see Elon own Twitter.

Although, I do hope Elon gets screwed a big one. The guy has it coming.
 
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Vic

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It wasn't just Elon financing the deal. The majority of the money for the deal came from sources other than Elon.
So you're saying the world's richest man is short to close on this deal even with a pool of outside investors?
 

VRAMdemon

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What a pathetic turdbucket. Predictable. My guess is this will settle for an amount > $1bn, but actually forcing Musk to complete the deal if it succeeded would likely take years of expensive litigation and be a massive distraction to Twitter’s board and executives, but I do think Twitter will pursue it until Musk is willing to settle, which I suspect he will do.

Next up: Watch Musk weasel his way out of paying his >$1B obligation by claiming that he has no money.

At least all the women working at Twitter don't have to worry about Musk knocking them up and bearing his children.
 

sportage

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Knowing how corporations work, kinda, I'm concerned that Twitter will make a huge mistake in stilling wanting to sell their damn PAIN IN THE ASS social media company. Think about it. Twitter had cold feet when Musk first showed interest, then.... Twitter got use to the idea of all that $$$$$$. Twitter put greed in front of common sense, and the ""board"" desired to sell. Wouldn't YOU????
So now, Musk pulls out, however Twitter is still in the sell-out mode of thinking and my concern it that someone not Musk will come along offering FAR LESS, and Twitter will jump at the offer. Any offer at this point. And.... that offer could come from Donald Trump Inc or from some other far right extremist interest.

I would say.... consider Twitter sold.
Not to Musk, but soon to someone, ANYONE else.
Once that old sell-out bug hits, its hard to resist.
There are high level Twitter management that can't stand the sight of the damn company after this. They can't stand working at Twitter. They had visions of sugar plums and tropical climate retirement. Then.... that damn Elon Musk played them. That SOB actually pulled out.

Musk or no Musk, the players might have changed but the game is still the same.... SELL-OUT.
 
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I hope Twitter will force him to complete the sale. Poor Musk, no one will shed a tear except for maybe a few fanboys.

I don't, as then it means he will absolutely weaponize Twitter as then he'll have an axe to grind and he'll go out of his way to be the douchiest douchebag possible.

Now, I hope they basically do force him to court because I can all but guarantee he tries to get out of paying even the $1billion, and in the process the fucking jackass perjurs himself or commits other acts that costs him.

Also pretty sure Twitter has grounds to suspend his account just based on the misinformation he's posted on there about the Twitter deal. Dude straight up lied that they hid anything from him since he waived his right to thoroughly vet them because he was eager for a quick fuck you (again he had no interest in ever actually buying Twitter but he had to attempt to pretend otherwise he'd be facing extra scrutiny from the SEC and they're about the only group with any ability to get him to STFU at this point; him committing outright fraud could potentially get him punted from Tesla and SpaceX). His goal was always just to trash Twitter and hope it put the company in freefall such that they'd be forced to cowtow to assholes like him.

Hell I don't doubt that potentially Musk even thought he could skirt the SEC restrictions on his social media posts by claiming that only applied to Twitter and so if Twitter changed then he'd get his full freedom back. He's that much of an idiotic asshole.
 

sdifox

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I don't, as then it means he will absolutely weaponize Twitter as then he'll have an axe to grind and he'll go out of his way to be the douchiest douchebag possible.

Now, I hope they basically do force him to court because I can all but guarantee he tries to get out of paying even the $1billion, and in the process the fucking jackass perjurs himself or commits other acts that costs him.

Also pretty sure Twitter has grounds to suspend his account just based on the misinformation he's posted on there about the Twitter deal. Dude straight up lied that they hid anything from him since he waived his right to thoroughly vet them because he was eager for a quick fuck you (again he had no interest in ever actually buying Twitter but he had to attempt to pretend otherwise he'd be facing extra scrutiny from the SEC and they're about the only group with any ability to get him to STFU at this point; him committing outright fraud could potentially get him punted from Tesla and SpaceX). His goal was always just to trash Twitter and hope it put the company in freefall such that they'd be forced to cowtow to assholes like him.

Hell I don't doubt that potentially Musk even thought he could skirt the SEC restrictions on his social media posts by claiming that only applied to Twitter and so if Twitter changed then he'd get his full freedom back. He's that much of an idiotic asshole.
Wee bit late to worry about weaponized Twitter no?
 

Amused

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Please do tell. I'm not paying for a NY Times subscription, but I also don't have to to read the headline. Musk is not on the hook for "less than half" as you posted. Again, "Musk is on the hook to pay $33.5 billion in cash"

Wanna know how I know you didn't read the article I originally posted?

So you don't know how to get around paywalls by finding archived copies?

Let me teach you how to internet:


Are you capable of mathing?

What percentage is 21 billion out of 44 billion? Is it less than 50%?


"Elon Musk has brought in more than a dozen new investors to help fund his $44 billion acquisition of Twitter, including the billionaire Larry Ellison and the venture capital firm Sequoia Capital, according to securities documents filed Thursday morning.
The investors together will contribute $7 billion to help fund Twitter’s purchase, with the rest coming from Mr. Musk’s own pocket or through loans.
Mr. Musk had said that he would fund the deal in part with a $12.5 billion loan against his shares in Tesla, the electric vehicle company he runs. As a result of the new equity commitments, Mr. Musk said he was reducing the size of that loan against Tesla shares to $6.25 billion from $12.5 billion.
He has also said that he has secured $13 billion in other loans from seven banks and committed $21 billion of his own cash. Mr. Musk has not yet outlined the sources of that cash."
 
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fskimospy

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So you don't know how to get around paywalls by finding archived copies?

Let me teach you how to internet:


Are you capable of mathing?

What percentage is 21 billion out of 44 billion? Is it less than 50%?


"Elon Musk has brought in more than a dozen new investors to help fund his $44 billion acquisition of Twitter, including the billionaire Larry Ellison and the venture capital firm Sequoia Capital, according to securities documents filed Thursday morning.
The investors together will contribute $7 billion to help fund Twitter’s purchase, with the rest coming from Mr. Musk’s own pocket or through loans.
Mr. Musk had said that he would fund the deal in part with a $12.5 billion loan against his shares in Tesla, the electric vehicle company he runs. As a result of the new equity commitments, Mr. Musk said he was reducing the size of that loan against Tesla shares to $6.25 billion from $12.5 billion.
He has also said that he has secured $13 billion in other loans from seven banks and committed $21 billion of his own cash. Mr. Musk has not yet outlined the sources of that cash."
We would have to know the terms of each of those funding commitments to see how much Musk is on the hook for.

We know he is obligated to buy it for that much, we don’t know to what extent his external financiers are obligated to fund his purchase. So if he tries to back out and a court forces him to buy (unlikely) can his financiers back out?
 
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Amused

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We would have to know the terms of each of those funding commitments to see how much Musk is on the hook for.

We know he is obligated to buy it for that much, we don’t know to what extent his external financiers are obligated to fund his purchase. So if he tries to back out and a court forces him to buy (unlikely) can his financiers back out?

Maybe. Not entirely sure. But as the deal progressed, he got more and more outside funding. Even as he was trashing the company, he was still getting funding.

Seems to me he would have signed funding agreements with backout penalties just as he did with Twitter.
 

MrSquished

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I don't think Elon will buy the company but they're definitely going to get more than a billion. They've lost 15 billion in market cap since he made the offer and then started acting like the d bag he is. Hopefully take no less than 10 billion from him
 
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Brovane

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So you're saying the world's richest man is short to close on this deal even with a pool of outside investors?

I am saying that Musk wasn't financing the deal solely with his money. Some of the financing of the deal included financing that would be taken out against Twitter own assets.
 

Brovane

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The majority, really?

"Musk is on the hook to pay $33.5 billion in cash"


Far from it, unless you can provide sources to back that claim. Otherwise you are just spewing BS.

Based on this May 25th WSJ article, Musk's part of the financing package was $14B.

Elon Musk Plans to Rely More Heavily on Equity for Twitter Deal

The latest funding details still leave questions about how Mr. Musk would come up with roughly $14 billion of his financing package. Soon after Twitter accepted his bid, he reported selling roughly $8.5 billion worth of Tesla stock that he could devote to financing the transaction. And he already owns more than 9% of Twitter, worth roughly $4 billion at $54.20 a share, Mr. Musk’s buyout price.

To help pay for the deal, Mr. Musk disclosed in early May that he had lined up about $7 billion from investors whose participation effectively reduces the personal risk he has to take.
 

fskimospy

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Based on this May 25th WSJ article, Musk's part of the financing package was $14B.

Elon Musk Plans to Rely More Heavily on Equity for Twitter Deal

The latest funding details still leave questions about how Mr. Musk would come up with roughly $14 billion of his financing package. Soon after Twitter accepted his bid, he reported selling roughly $8.5 billion worth of Tesla stock that he could devote to financing the transaction. And he already owns more than 9% of Twitter, worth roughly $4 billion at $54.20 a share, Mr. Musk’s buyout price.

To help pay for the deal, Mr. Musk disclosed in early May that he had lined up about $7 billion from investors whose participation effectively reduces the personal risk he has to take.
I think the part that matters here is what obligations those lenders have as to what I know he entered into the agreement before securing external financing.
 

amenx

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I don't think Elon will buy the company but they're definitely going to get more than a billion. They've lost 15 billion in market cap since he made the offer and then started acting like the d bag he is. Hopefully take no less than 10 billion from him
Doubtful they can get more than a billion. The diminished stock price occurred during wide scale market downturns so cannot prove Musk influenced that.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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Doubtful they can get more than a billion. The diminished stock price occurred during wide scale market downturns so cannot prove Musk influenced that.
You are totally wrong. The contract Elon signed is very tilted in twitters favor. Either it drags out in court for years, or Elon is going to have to settle eventually. And it certainly won't just be for 1 billion. Twitter doesn't really have to prove anything, the contract text is in their favor.

But it's a good negotiating starting point.
 

fskimospy

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Doubtful they can get more than a billion. The diminished stock price occurred during wide scale market downturns so cannot prove Musk influenced that.
Why is that? A billion is the absolute minimum he would have to pay.
 
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Zorba

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I'm interested to see if shareholders can get a piece of him. Basically anyone that bought shares after he claimed he was buying it was defrauded by him.
 
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