Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

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Brovane

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I think the part that matters here is what obligations those lenders have as to what I know he entered into the agreement before securing external financing.

It is very hard to get details on what was in the agreement was for the purchase. I am really interested to see what comes out of the court on this. I predict some type of settlement with Musk paying out $1B-$5B to extract himself from this fiasco.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Not sure of your point? They were defrauded by a con man. Shareholders sue for much less.
I guess my point is, the apes dropped their shiny rocks on a company with no product, under the expectation it would make them more shiny rocks. The notion of an absurd rich person buying it suddenly got all the additional apes start aping behavior, and the fear that he might not made them all take their shiny rocks back, which got original apes spooked so they took theirs too, and now everyone's hooping and hollering because nobody understands why their shiny rocks went away.

So they sue, try to get their shiny rocks back, and curse at the bad man that made them bet their shiny rocks on the golden calf.
 

amenx

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Interesting angle...

As both sides prepare for a lengthy court battle, some Twitter influencers are floating an alternate theory for the change of heart: The bots were never the problem, merely a vehicle through which to covertly sell Tesla options that were about to expire...

 

BoomerD

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Maybe Musk can buy Truth Social now that Trump has abandoned ship...(maybe to avoid being subpoenaed)


Former President Donald Trump left the board of his social media firm, Truth Social, weeks before it was served with a federal subpoena, records show.

According to a June 8 filing with the Florida Department of State's Division of Corporations, Trump was removed from his position as chairman of the Trump Media and Technology Group (TMTG).

He was one of several departures along with his son, Donald Trump Jr., and other members Wes Moss, Kashyap Patel, Andrew Northwall, and Scott Glabe.
 

cytg111

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  • Truth Social in a statement denied that Trump left the board, despite the document saying so.

He is probably calling the shots but bears nothing of the responsibility.. someone else in place to be scapegoated.
 
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trenchfoot

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So I wonder how much cash Trump sucked out of that loot and scoot "Truth" Social scam of his before he bailed. Seems like he got tipped that the hounds were hot on his trail.
 

MrSquished

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It is very hard to get details on what was in the agreement was for the purchase. I am really interested to see what comes out of the court on this. I predict some type of settlement with Musk paying out $1B-$5B to extract himself from this fiasco.
I will guess between 5-10 billion
 
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Brovane

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I will guess between 5-10 billion

I know Twitter is saying they want to force Musk to continue with the deal but who at Twitter really wants Musk to control Twitter? Forcing a settlement without giving Musk control of Twitter allows them to buy down their current debt which stands at around $5B.
 

senseamp

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I know Twitter is saying they want to force Musk to continue with the deal but who at Twitter really wants Musk to control Twitter? Forcing a settlement without giving Musk control of Twitter allows them to buy down their current debt which stands at around $5B.
Shareholders want their $44B, they don't care what happens to Twitter after Musk buys it, it's not their problem.
 
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hal2kilo

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Pens1566

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This will end up with some secret settlement, Musk wil hand over an undisclosed amount to Twitter as penalty. But that amount will be less than whatever benefits he reaped from the stock scam he was really attempting with the Twitter purchase as cover.

I'd prefer that it go to court, and Musk lose much much much more as a result.
 

fskimospy

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Shareholders want their $44B, they don't care what happens to Twitter after Musk buys it, it's not their problem.
That may be true but the deal also depends on him securing financing and who wants to lend billions to a guy to make a purchase at a terrible price of a business he claims to no longer want?

I am on team ‘Twitter shakes him down for several billion’.
 

Heartbreaker

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This will end up with some secret settlement, Musk wil hand over an undisclosed amount to Twitter as penalty.

Twitters a public company, so it must report anything that materially affects the bottom line, like any billions they get in a settlement.
 
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senseamp

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That may be true but the deal also depends on him securing financing and who wants to lend billions to a guy to make a purchase at a terrible price of a business he claims to no longer want?
I am on team ‘Twitter shakes him down for several billion’.
There are specific clauses to terminate the deal and pay $1B. Walking away is not one of them. In fact, it puts him in breach, which rules out the use of termination clause. Financing becomes his problem.
"Several billion" might be the difference between the offer and value of the company without it, to make shareholders equitably well off. So like 15 or 20 billion. But I doubt he wants to pay that much and still walk away and I think more likely the court tells him to stick to the deal he signed. Maybe Twitter knocks off a handful of billions if he agrees to cut the crap and close.

Here is a precedent:
A Delaware state judge ruled yesterday that Tyson Foods Inc., the nation's largest poultry producer, had no legal grounds for withdrawing its $3.2 billion offer to buy IBP Inc. and ordered Tyson to complete the deal.
Similar situation. Tyson bid for IBP. Then tried to back out citing financial irregularities. Court said it can't really determine the hypothetical value of IBP without the deal, so the just way to compensate IBP shareholders is to force Tyson to complete the transaction, which it did.
 
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fskimospy

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There are specific clauses to terminate the deal and pay $1B. Walking away is not one of them. In fact, it puts him in breach, which rules out the use of termination clause. Financing becomes his problem.
"Several billion" might be the difference between the offer and value of the company without it, to make shareholders equitably well off. So like 15 or 20 billion. But I doubt he wants to pay that much and still walk away and I think more likely the court tells him to stick to the deal he signed. Maybe Twitter knocks off a handful of billions if he agrees to cut the crap and close.

Here is a precedent:

Similar situation. Tyson bid for IBP. Then tried to back out siting financial irregularities. Court said it can't really determine the hypothetical value of IBP without the deal, so the just way to compensate IBP shareholders is to force Tyson to complete the transaction, which it did.
I'm no lawyer but from what I've read about the specifics of this agreement is that his financing has to remain intact and I suspect that will turn out to be everyone's problem in one form or another. I think the court might rule that he has to complete the deal as signed but I also strongly suspect that never actually happens because I bet his financiers try to back out and then you have a whole new set of legal issues in other states. It's not like Delaware is going to be able to tell some rando investment group they have to lend money to Elon Musk.

I think the court will rule against Musk and Twitter will use that leverage to make him pay them a bunch of extra money but still in the single digit billions.
 

Amused

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Twitter plans to take its fight against Elon Musk to the courts
Company hires Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz law firm and plans to file law suit in Delaware this week after Tesla founder backs away from $44 billion bid


Twitter has retained a prominent New York law firm as it prepares to fight Elon Musk over his decision to abandon a $44 billion takeover of the social media company.
Twitter executives hired Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz LLP, which specializes in merger and acquisition law, to handle an anticipated lawsuit against Musk, according to a person familiar with the discussions who was granted anonymity to discuss confidential matters.

The team plans to file suit in Delaware Court of Chancery, where many corporate battles are litigated, as soon as this week, the person said.
Twitter’s hiring of the high-profile legal team was first reported by Bloomberg.

Within weeks of agreeing to buy Twitter in April, Musk appeared to sour on the deal, complaining that the company was failing to provide adequate details of the number of automated, phony or spam accounts using the service.

Twitter insists it has fully complied with the deal’s disclosure requirements, including by providing Musk with a “fire hose” of data comprising millions of tweets sent in real-time.
Musk argues in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission that the true size of Twitter’s user base is a material fact about the company, since 90 percent of its revenue comes from advertisements. If Twitter were not being truthful, his legal team believes it gives him a valid reason to get out of a deal he is contractually obligated to close on.

Twitter executives believe they have a strong case that Musk has violated the terms of the takeover deal, which he signed in April, agreeing to pay $54.20 for each share of the company’s stock. Twitter shares closed Friday below $37.

But at a minimum, the company is likely to face a lengthy courtroom battle with one of the world’s richest and most mercurial individuals, which could paralyze its ability to launch new initiatives and attract workers.

Bret Taylor, the chairman of Twitter’s board, responded to Musk’s decision to quit the deal by saying in a tweet that the company is “committed to closing the transaction on the price and terms agreed upon with Mr. Musk and plans to pursue legal action to enforce the merger agreement. We are confident we will prevail in the Delaware Court of Chancery.”

Under the terms of the takeover deal, Musk could be required to pay a breakup fee of $1 billion.

Twitter’s share-price slide is part of a broader technology stock slump that has included Tesla, the electric carmaker that boasts Musk as its largest shareholder. Tesla shares have lost roughly one-third of their value since early April.

Twitter’s hiring of Wachtell, Lipton comes just days after Musk’s attorneys said in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission that Twitter was “in breach” of the terms of the takeover deal for failing to fully disclose information on its reliance upon “false and spam accounts,” often called “bots,” in its membership claims.

Musk is represented by the firm of Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP.
On Sunday, Twitter declined to comment. Wachtell, Lipton did not respond to emails requesting comment. Nor did Musk, who tweeted shortly after midnight: “They said I couldn’t buy Twitter. Then they wouldn’t disclose bot info. Now they want to force me to buy Twitter in court. Now they have to disclose bot info in court.”
The tweet included photos of Musk laughing.
 
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