Employers and colleges asking for FB passwords during interviews

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Pantlegz

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Jun 6, 2007
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Really? I'd laugh at anyone asking me for a password to anything in an interview. Are people really so spineless that they're willing to lay down and just accept this? How about I give them my online banking password while we're at it... My life outside of work is none of their business. As long as I'm not getting caught breaking laws anyway and if that's the case I'm sure they would find out about it in ways other than having access to my Facebook, or any of my other personal accounts online.
 

Triumph

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A bit of a subtle point.

Lately, it seems that the self appointed "political correct" police want to promote the concept of "Illegal questions." As if you were in a job interview and some one is going to blow a whistle and throw a "politically correct" penalty flag.

That has not, and will not, ever happen.

What the law states is that there are federally recognised classes that you cannot discriminate against in hiring. Consequently, many HR departments have policies that forbid even asking questions concerning this. But that is a company policy not the law. Note also that US Federal law does not apply everywhere in the world.

That is also the reason that most companies will not give you any feedback if you are an unsuccessful job candidate.

Regarding Facebook, and FaceBook passwords, an organization can ask you for anything in a job interview situation. It is your prerogative to refuse to provide the information. And it is the organization's prerogative to refuse to consider you for the job.

What is it that Scott McNealy said? You have zero privacy, get over it.

From my perspective, it is probably naive to think that you can put information online, and keep it private.

Uno

It isn't political correctness, it's just a habit that people have. When somebody does something that people think seems wrong, but they're not sure why, they just say, "You can't do that. That's illegal." They have no basis for making that determination, they've never looked up the laws on the books, they just say it. There's one line that I love in a movie called Go, in a grocery store the customer is yelling at the cashier. "HEY! You can't put poison in the same bag as milk. It's illegal." The person has no idea if it is or isn't. They just say it.
 

LurkerPrime

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I have a FB account I haven't used in forever. I still wouldn't give my PW away. Next thing you know they'll be asking for keys to your car and house and want to fuck your wife.
 

D1gger

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Oct 3, 2004
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I don't have an fb account, but I would also never consider asking a potential employee for their password or access to fb. That is clearly an invasion of their private life.
 

Modelworks

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If idiots would stop putting things online that they are not okay with the world seeing then it wouldn't be an issue.
Maybe we need to emphasize that WORLD WIDE WEB part of the www again.
 

Zenmervolt

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Oct 22, 2000
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A bit of a subtle point.

Lately, it seems that the self appointed "political correct" police want to promote the concept of "Illegal questions." As if you were in a job interview and some one is going to blow a whistle and throw a "politically correct" penalty flag.

That has not, and will not, ever happen.

What the law states is that there are federally recognised classes that you cannot discriminate against in hiring. Consequently, many HR departments have policies that forbid even asking questions concerning this. But that is a company policy not the law. Note also that US Federal law does not apply everywhere in the world.

That is also the reason that most companies will not give you any feedback if you are an unsuccessful job candidate.

Regarding Facebook, and FaceBook passwords, an organization can ask you for anything in a job interview situation. It is your prerogative to refuse to provide the information. And it is the organization's prerogative to refuse to consider you for the job.

What is it that Scott McNealy said? You have zero privacy, get over it.

From my perspective, it is probably naive to think that you can put information online, and keep it private.

Uno

Shhhh, we can't have reason and correct information here, this is the internet!

ZV
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
Jul 1, 2001
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I don't have an fb account, but I would also never consider asking a potential employee for their password or access to fb. That is clearly an invasion of their private life.

It's also obviously illegal as well. If you're not allowed to ask someone if they're married or not or how many kids they have in a job interview, how is it legal to force the disclosure of that information via Facebook?
 

OutHouse

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Jun 5, 2000
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I don't know where or who you work for Bob, but every employment application form that I've ever filled out asked for a Date of Birth and Social Security Number. They may not ask you for your "age", but they will ask you for your date of birth. If an employer or interviewer cannot determine your age based on your stated date of birth, then they are idiots.

my just helped my 16 year old fill out her first job app at AMC theaters. its a online app and it did not ask for her social OR her DOB. the only thing it had age was was "check here if you are under 18 and can provide a work permit"
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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It's also obviously illegal as well. If you're not allowed to ask someone if they're married or not or how many kids they have in a job interview, how is it legal to force the disclosure of that information via Facebook?

i really dont think its illegal. fucked up yes but a crime? no.
 
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i really dont think its illegal. fucked up yes but a crime? no.
I was instructed by my current employer before a round of interviews that there were certain questions we absolutely could not ask because of potential legal issues. It may not be strictly illegal to ask someone's marital status (for example), but it can be used as evidence of discriminatory hiring practices which IS illegal (even if you didn't intend to use the information to discriminate). That's why HR departments are extremely cautious when covering sensitive areas. They have a whole list of "don't say this, say this" items, such as "Don't ask for someone's age, ask if they are over 18;" the first question could be discriminatory, while the second merely establishes that a candidate is legally eligible to work. It's a little bit ludicrous, honestly, but that's where we've gotten in our PC, lawsuit-happy culture.
 

JimmiG

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So, no one has a problem giving all their personal information to Facebook, but they refuse to give it to their future employer?
 

lothar

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I never made that argument to begin with. Also, translation of what you're saying: "My name is lothar and I am a lazy fuck."
Translation: "My name is Trident, and I can't get a girl. I like wallowing in my self-pity. Oh, and I like Fruit Loops."
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2228981

Honest to god, it was the first google result for "illegal to ask age"
Are you really that lazy?

http://jobsearch.about.com/od/interviewsnetworking/a/illegalinterv.htm
How about you stop being a moron like Trident. Are you really that stupid?

Instead of using About.com, Wikipedia, or Yahoo answers as a reference, why not use the government website?
http://www.eeoc.gov/laws/practices/index.cfm
It is illegal for an employer to discriminate against a job applicant because of his or her race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information. For example, an employer may not refuse to give employment applications to people of a certain race.
An employer may not base hiring decisions on stereotypes and assumptions about a person's race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.
If an employer requires job applicants to take a test, the test must be necessary and related to the job and the employer may not exclude people of a particular race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy), national origin, or individuals with disabilities. In addition, the employer may not use a test that excludes applicants age 40 or older if the test is not based on a reasonable factor other than age.

If a job applicant with a disability needs an accommodation (such as a sign language interpreter) to apply for a job, the employer is required to provide the accommodation, so long as the accommodation does not cause the employer significant difficulty or expense.
Where does it say an employer can't ask for a Date of Birth?
Where does it say an employer can't discriminate against a 20, 24, or 35 year old?

Derp, derp, derp...
 

YoungGun21

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I don't see why it would be illegal. They can ask you to take medical test as part of an interview process, I don't see why they can't ask for a password.

Afterall, you don't have to tell them. You can just not take the job.

Welcome to your new life, serf.

There are lots of questions they can't ask you...
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Really? I'd laugh at anyone asking me for a password to anything in an interview. Are people really so spineless that they're willing to lay down and just accept this? How about I give them my online banking password while we're at it... My life outside of work is none of their business. As long as I'm not getting caught breaking laws anyway and if that's the case I'm sure they would find out about it in ways other than having access to my Facebook, or any of my other personal accounts online.

As much as we like to believe that, it's not what the big corporations believe. You'll have to sign a bunch of stuff such as conflict of interest agreements etc... In the case of companies that ask for social media passwords there is most likely something you have to sign as well. Basically it's all documents that get filed away and will be used against you if ever you try to pull anything off such as change your Facebook password.

There really needs to be laws for this crap, but we have to remember the government is butt buddies with mega corporations, so they're not going to make laws that will stop them from doing something just to protect meaningless (to them) individuals.

Where I work, there's a clause where anything you create on your own time is actually property of the company. It's not really enforced, but technically they could turn around and take something like my game server and own it, making me shut it down. In reality it would have to be something they show financial interest in. Like say I designed a phone switch on my spare time, they'd probably be interested in it and basically it would become their property and I would not be allowed to work on it.

Lot of companies do this. Some are very strict about it, mine is not really as strict thankfully.
 

SparkyJJO

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May 16, 2002
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So, no one has a problem giving all their personal information to Facebook, but they refuse to give it to their future employer?

I don't give my personal info to facebook nor would I give it to a potential employer.

Seriously, if in an interview they asked me for access, I'd say no, and walk out. If they want to pry, I don't want to work there.
 

Flash1969

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May 11, 2001
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haha, yeah. That's like telling your employer to go fuck himself when he asks for a piss test. No piss, no job. Deal with it. No FB, no job. This is America. We have a right to not hire people unless they provide personal information and naked pictures of their children.

I refuse drug tests and I sure as hell won't be giving any passwords. I bet people used to think drug tests were an insane invasion of privacy just as they now think giving passwords is.
 

l0cke

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Dec 12, 2005
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If facebook introduced 2-factor authentication this wouldn't be a problem. Just tell them your password, then when it asks for your time-sensitive security key they will be SOL.

Or, just don't work at that place.
 

Sonikku

Lifer
Jun 23, 2005
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It's perfectly legal to ask for this information so long as they do so before you're hired. And why shouldn't they? Don't you know it's for your own good? All this talk about "you shouldn't be able to fire people for being preggers" or "you shouldn't be able to ask peoples age in job interviews" talk is absurd. All this bloated regulation and laws are tying employers hands enough as it is. Think about it people.

The harder it is to fire people, the harder it is to hire them. For this reason, it is in everyone's interest to pledge fealty to their corporate overlords. The less power you have, and the more your employer has, the better off all the employees will be.
 

JimKiler

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Oct 10, 2002
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The EFF sent me an email yesterday 4/1 with this alarming new twist on requests for passwords:

Job Seekers Getting Asked for Farmville Passwords
In an alarming trend, job seekers are increasingly reporting that prospective employers are requiring Farmville passwords or "neighbor" requests from prospective employees. One job seeker, speaking on the condition of anonymity, expressed serious privacy concerns about the trend: "My virtual crops and livestock are sensitive information, and none of my boss' business. I think he's just looking for somebody to harvest his tomatoes."


When I went online for more information I only got this puzzling link:

Were you caught by our prank stories? Check out our real releases, our real Deeplinks blog posts, and support EFF. EFF is fighting for your digital civil liberties every day -- and that's no joke.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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LOL Farmville now? Wow. Are they just doing this to test people's reactions? It just makes no sense. What's next, your MMO game passwords too? lmao.
 
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