Empty chair hanging = lynching???

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spidey07

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And, OJ was acquitted. That doesn't change the fact that you are a racist troll who will defend any violence directed at a brown dude.

Really now. Explain my defense of a brown woman shooting a guy attacking her in her vehicle then.

Explain my defense of a brown dude in Florida.

Remove your racist blinders.
 

JoeyP

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How is this any different that if someone made a parody of a politician or even a celebrity using a bag of microwave popcorn, and then people around the country started stabbing bags of microwave popcorn with knives and posting them on youtube?
 

Pens1566

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LOL! That's fucking pure awesome right there! There's nothing wrong or illegal about it because it isn't a likeness. Genius.

Utterly and completely shocked at this response. Nah, not really. Thanks for the predictable post, grand arachnid.
 

JoeyP

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The idea of chair hanging is totally repulsive. The idea of ANYONE looking at this as cute or amusing or creative or fun just shows me how fucking sick this country has become under republicans AND tea party terrorist.
So if someone lynched a teleprompter... ?
 

SS Trooper

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Who woulda thunk it - someone calling himself "SS Trooper" is stepping forward to defend this. What a world!

Firstly, sorry for the delay

That statement just proves my point. Your projecting your hate on a situation. Just like people are associating lynching with hanging the chair, you are assuming my name means something it doesn't. Things have different meanings.

Hell SS is used a few posts down to identify the Secret Service, or are you calling me out for being part of the secret service?

You are insulted by the chair because you associate it to lynching. I associate it to the desire to have a new president. Whether or not I agree with that is irrelevant, but I'm not offended by someone putting stupid crap in their yard. Or having a name that can have a negative association....

Hey, btw, your name reminds me of a mobster. So that must mean you like organized crime. /sarcasm
 
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Firstly, sorry for the delay

That statement just proves my point. Your projecting your hate on a situation. Just like people are associating lynching with hanging the chair, you are assuming my name means something it doesn't. Things have different meanings.

Hell SS is used a few posts down to identify the Secret Service, or are you calling me out for being part of the secret service?

You are insulted by the chair because you associate it to lynching. I associate it to the desire to have a new president. Whether or not I agree with that is irrelevant, but I'm not offended by someone putting stupid crap in their yard. Or having a name that can have a negative association....

Hey, btw, your name reminds me of a mobster. So that must mean you like organized crime. /sarcasm

Your feigned ignorance is consistent with your whole didactic post.

As to your question, I have used the online handle "Don Vito Corleone," or variants on it, for many years dating back to about 1996. It was originally used for gaming, but I also used it when I joined this forum more than 12 years ago. It was actually adapted from the name I gave my cat (Don Vito), who was in turn named after Don Vito from the Godfather, which I consider perhaps the greatest American film and certainly my favorite. I added the "Corleone" only after Bam Margera's uncle, who called himself "Don Vito," became a public figure (and was later charged with molestation), lest anyone think he was the inspiration for it.

So why do you call yourself "SS Trooper"? It would seem to me far likelier that it connotes an enthusiasm for the Schutzstaffel than the Secret Service, since only the former used the designation "trooper" for its members. There is no such thing as a "Secret Service trooper." If you are in fact a Nazi aficionado it makes it less surprising that you are feigning ignorance about this chair hanging's obvious connotation of lynching.
 
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The first thing that came to mind was the song Starship Trooper from Yes. It could also refer to the Heinlein book under a similar name (his book ends with an "s").

Those are certainly possibilities. It still strikes me as an odd choice given the fact that abbreviating it as "SS Trooper" has such an obvious Nazi connotation (who would want to be readily mistaken for holding those beliefs if he didn't?), but I suppose one never knows.
 

JM Aggie08

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Your feigned ignorance is consistent with your whole didactic post.

As to your question, I have used the online handle "Don Vito Corleone," or variants on it, for many years dating back to about 1996. It was originally used for gaming, but I also used it when I joined this forum more than 12 years ago. It was actually adapted from the name I gave my cat (Don Vito), who was in turn named after Don Vito from the Godfather, which I consider perhaps the greatest American film and certainly my favorite. I added the "Corleone" only after Bam Margera's uncle, who called himself "Don Vito," became a public figure (and was later charged with molestation), lest anyone think he was the inspiration for it.

So why do you call yourself "SS Trooper"? It would seem to me far likelier that it connotes an enthusiasm for the Schutzstaffel than the Secret Service, since only the former used the designation "trooper" for its members. There is no such thing as a "Secret Service trooper." If you are in fact a Nazi aficionado it makes it less surprising that you are feigning ignorance about this chair hanging's obvious connotation of lynching.


I guess "StarShip" isn't a reasonable assumption?

This place has really gone to shit.
 
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I guess "StarShip" isn't a reasonable assumption?

This place has really gone to shit.

He didn't offer that as an alternative explanation - he just pointed out that "Secret Service" might be one. Honestly when I wrote the post you quoted, "Starship" hadn't even occurred to me as a possibility.

I am not saying he definitively meant "SS Trooper" to refer to the SS, but I think it's a reasonable inference and he has said nothing to refute it, other than offering up a less likely alternative ("Secret Service"). I have asked him and we'll see what he says.
 
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Wouldn't there have to have been a crime committed for it to be a hate crime?

The display is stupid and racist, but not illegal.

You can initiate an investigation to determine whether its a hate crime. I agree probably not illegal (given the facts at this point), but I wouldn't mind if the secret service had a nice talking to with this guy. You know, just in case there is a credible threat there.
 

SS Trooper

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Your feigned ignorance is consistent with your whole didactic post.

As to your question, I have used the online handle "Don Vito Corleone," or variants on it, for many years dating back to about 1996. It was originally used for gaming, but I also used it when I joined this forum more than 12 years ago. It was actually adapted from the name I gave my cat (Don Vito), who was in turn named after Don Vito from the Godfather, which I consider perhaps the greatest American film and certainly my favorite. I added the "Corleone" only after Bam Margera's uncle, who called himself "Don Vito," became a public figure (and was later charged with molestation), lest anyone think he was the inspiration for it.

So why do you call yourself "SS Trooper"? It would seem to me far likelier that it connotes an enthusiasm for the Schutzstaffel than the Secret Service, since only the former used the designation "trooper" for its members. There is no such thing as a "Secret Service trooper." If you are in fact a Nazi aficionado it makes it less surprising that you are feigning ignorance about this chair hanging's obvious connotation of lynching.

Muhahaha, sorry I love this game. It's also quite ironic that your handle is from a video game.

I created my handle for a video game, Starcraft. There's a race in the game called "Zerg" a bug like race that is bent on absorbing everything in the galaxy. The inspiration has been guessed correctly. Starship Troopers, which of course features a bug like race of aliens killing people. Unfortunately that handle was too long so SS Trooper was born.

But I could be making this up right? You are welcome to search my previous posts in a certain poorly crafted WW2 thread where I disclaim the coincidence several months ago. Or the fact that the majority of my posts reside in Video Games, or specifically Blizzard(creator of starcraft) games.

Truth be told I am against the chair "lynching" because of every asshat that has tried to bash me or report my name because they think I am akin to a Nazi soldier. They see something that isn't there, it could be, but it's not.

Now, are you sure I am ignorant just because I look past the obvious?
 
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Dr. Zaus

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My handle is a reference to Dixy Lee Ray, a rather conservative democrat Governor of Washington state.

BUT it is also just a little off from the 'states rights' and thus 'segregationist' Dixi-Crat movement; I used to have the distinction in my signature but I've since earned the bonafides required to avoid misunderstanding.

But your a Nazi asshat (even if a star-ship trouper fan) if you are trying to excuse this racist shit.
 
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Muhahaha, sorry I love this game. It's also quite ironic that your handle is from a video game.

I created my handle for a video game, Starcraft. There's a race in the game called "Zerg" a bug like race that is bent on absorbing everything in the galaxy. The inspiration has been guessed correctly. Starship Troopers, which of course features a bug like race of aliens killing people. Unfortunately that handle was too long so SS Trooper was born.

But I could be making this up right? You are welcome to search my previous posts in a certain poorly crafted WW2 thread where I disclaim the coincidence several months ago. Or the fact that the majority of my posts reside in Video Games, or specifically Blizzard(creator of starcraft) games.

Truth be told I am against the chair "lynching" because of every asshat that has tried to bash me or report my name because they think I am akin to a Nazi soldier. They see something that isn't there, it could be, but it's not.

Now, are you sure I am ignorant just because I look past the obvious?

I apologize for jumping to conclusions regarding your handle - I am by no means going to argue that you are misrepresenting your reasons for it and take you at your word. I certainly didn't, and wouldn't, report you for it.

I still think it requires an unhealthy hybrid of historical ignorance and/or willful suspension of disbelief not to see this chair-hanging as signifying a lynching, and the chair-hanger's reaction when questioned just reinforces that. That doesn't mean it's not Constitutionally protected free speech - it is - but I don't approve of it.
 

SS Trooper

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I apologize for jumping to conclusions regarding your handle - I am by no means going to argue that you are misrepresenting your reasons for it and take you at your word. I certainly didn't, and wouldn't, report you for it.

I still think it requires an unhealthy hybrid of historical ignorance and/or willful suspension of disbelief not to see this chair-hanging as signifying a lynching, and the chair-hanger's reaction when questioned just reinforces that. That doesn't mean it's not Constitutionally protected free speech - it is - but I don't approve of it.

Sounds good with me :biggrin:

@Dixy

I'm not so defending the action as much as I defend his right to do it. If everyone realized this guy did it to bring out these emotions and you are in fact enabling him by placing it in the news, and instead just brushed it off as pointless like I do then we wouldn't be having this conversation. This particular case of chair hanging from tree is racist, but on a whole hanging a chair in a tree is not. Neither is hanging a person. Thats just halloween decorations.

The only reason you should care is if you are actually part of the SS. (C wut I did thre?)

Anyway I'm off for the weekend
 

SlitheryDee

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It occurs to me that this is pretty cut and dried. People who do this are racist dicks, but there is no law against it, and there should never be a law against it. Basically we all get to say "Wow, what a fucking racist dick. I really hate that guy", and move on. It is objectively clear that what they did accomplished nothing but to demonstrate an opinion in such a distasteful way as to make it doubtful that any opinions they have are worth demonstrating.
 

TheVrolok

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Yeah, it's pretty clear what the dude's intention was, lynching a chair in his yard -- but the fact is, it's just a chair. He didn't break any laws, but I wouldn't have a problem with him getting a shakedown from the secret service just to assess any potential legitimate threats.

This doesn't really get my ire up very much, to be honest. It rather just tells everyone exactly how ignorant and uncivil these hick conservatives are. Can't win in the marketplace of ideas, so act out in appeals to bigotry and ignorance. This is the right wing. Get used to it.

/thread.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Sounds good with me :biggrin:

@Dixy

I'm not so defending the action as much as I defend his right to do it. If everyone realized this guy did it to bring out these emotions and you are in fact enabling him by placing it in the news, and instead just brushed it off as pointless like I do then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
It's stupid and sad; but only serves to hurt any political point that may be trying to be made.

This particular case of chair hanging from tree is racist, but on a whole hanging a chair in a tree is not. Neither is hanging a person. Thats just halloween decorations.

The only reason you should care is if you are actually part of the SS. (C wut I did thre?)
It's a symbol, just like a word, and the symbol is easily translated into meaning given our context. Inherently NO symbol has ANY meaning without a social context, and in our social context we all know this means "lynch our president, as such is the outcome that blacks like him deserve". To be disquieted by this kind of discourse being publicly displayed doesn't mean that I support jack-boot thugs policing the thought of those that disagree with e; simply that I am highly disappointed as I had hoped that we'd gotten to a point in our society where public displays of racism like that would ruin one's life socially.

So, no, I don't see what you did there; please explain.
 

Lithium381

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this actually got me to LOL in the office. You guys ACTUALLY think it's racist. . would you have thought that way had you been driving down a street and seen a chair suspended from a tree or did you need someone in the left-wing media to make a connection for you.

FFS, it's a chair hanging from a tree. . . i'm always surprised(well not so much anymore) how the Democrats are typically the first to bring race into any argument as an attack. . . you claim "if you can't see this as offensive, you're a racist" uh, no, it's not offensive because i'm NOT a racist. .
 
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