End of XP support Q&A page on Newegg

[jolancer]

Using XP past the cutoff date, is like living on the US border near Mexico.There will be lots of nasties trying to jump in

that analogy is wrong in more ways than one.

re any OS that holds or will hold major market share. Im refering to consumer use, buisness usage differs along with its risk factors.

end of support date has little to nothing to do with how likely your system will be compromised. has almost everything to do with user habits and time. especially those who arn't informed or simply ignore basic risk factors, fishing lures from email, social media, porn, etc probably being at the top. and time, as the OS life cycle rises and falls in the market so do the risk factors. whether your informed or choose to take precaution has absolutely no relation to microsoft support. like buying a new car and insurance has nothing to do with if you get into an accident or not.

b4 or after support, there are risk factors
b4 or after support, easiest way to deal with risk factors is to use backups
backups have nothing to do with ms support

This is how i am going to survive past April 2014, Kaspersky Internet Security 2014, Firefox and everything Microsoft disabled.

use a backup image of your os partition. there is no malware I'm aware of that can stop a human from plugging in a storage drive and pressing a few buttons. i never touched anti-virus, etc, after learning how to do that. for my system literally takes ~60sec to restore if need be. that refers to OS only tho, i don't mix my data and OS partitions.

I think most of us have moved on from XP with newer hardware and OS,as I stated you have to let the OS go sooner or later and that goes for any OS,also newer operatings bring new fetures,improved security etc so another reason to upgrade,it's not like you only had XP for 6 months before the next major OS was released,we are not far from Win9 so that goes to show how long XP has been around.

Personally I find upgrading not much of a problem and that goes for both drivers and software with general compatibility,yes I'll be upgrading to Win9 and moving forward like I always do.

i have thrown equal amount of time down the drain on this topic as you, however iv not done so in the face of ignorant lack of perspective. I'd be hesitant to insult in some cases however not even a child would waist time deliberately insulting an OS that they have no personal quarrel with and trying to use others ignorant insecurity of fear for the unknown future as grounds for promoting a new product. besides the fact your sounding more like social engineering spam with every increasing response

upgrading is fine, promoting an upgrade for valid reasons is fine. promoting crap on the legs of trending unfounded paranoia, is fine for people who like to be treated like a fool or moron. insinuating that crap is no different than turning off your electronics in 1999 so they don't explode in 2000. or going to war with Iraq on promoted theory of 'weapons of mass destruction'.

If your not getting compensation as incentive for spamming. all i can suggest is someone go kickstart donations for you because i wouldn't even spare the pity, i would lend you a free boot up the ass tho. don't be dissuaded from responding, i don't report spammers, i prefer to insult them
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Iv had no issues with xp, but i never updated it either untill sp3 was confirmed working without breaking the OS. which the hole argument of constant updates seems unintentionally hypocritical seeing as the competency of microsoft to actually beable to produce an update that won't break some part of the OS itself would constitute worse than the malware itself.

and only malware infamous enough for me to hear about was cryptolocker, which doesn't descriminate from xp/7/8 and the precautions/fix are all the same.

 

[Mem]

that analogy is wrong in more ways than one.

re any OS that holds or will hold major market share. Im refering to consumer use, buisness usage differs along with its risk factors.

end of support date has little to nothing to do with how likely your system will be compromised. has almost everything to do with user habits and time. especially those who arn't informed or simply ignore basic risk factors, fishing lures from email, social media, porn, etc probably being at the top. and time, as the OS life cycle rises and falls in the market so do the risk factors. whether your informed or choose to take precaution has absolutely no relation to microsoft support. like buying a new car and insurance has nothing to do with if you get into an accident or not.

b4 or after support, there are risk factors
b4 or after support, easiest way to deal with risk factors is to use backups
backups have nothing to do with ms support



use a backup image of your os partition. there is no malware I'm aware of that can stop a human from plugging in a storage drive and pressing a few buttons. i never touched anti-virus, etc, after learning how to do that. for my system literally takes ~60sec to restore if need be. that refers to OS only tho, i don't mix my data and OS partitions.



i have thrown equal amount of time down the drain on this topic as you, however iv not done so in the face of ignorant lack of perspective. I'd be hesitant to insult in some cases however not even a child would waist time deliberately insulting an OS that they have no personal quarrel with and trying to use others ignorant insecurity of fear for the unknown future as grounds for promoting a new product. besides the fact your sounding more like social engineering spam with every increasing response

upgrading is fine, promoting an upgrade for valid reasons is fine. promoting crap on the legs of trending unfounded paranoia, is fine for people who like to be treated like a fool or moron. insinuating that crap is no different than turning off your electronics in 1999 so they don't explode in 2000. or going to war with Iraq on promoted theory of 'weapons of mass destruction'.

If your not getting compensation as incentive for spamming. all i can suggest is someone go kickstart donations for you because i wouldn't even spare the pity, i would lend you a free boot up the ass tho. don't be dissuaded from responding, i don't report spammers, i prefer to insult them
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Iv had no issues with xp, but i never updated it either untill sp3 was confirmed working without breaking the OS. which the hole argument of constant updates seems unintentionally hypocritical seeing as the competency of microsoft to actually beable to produce an update that won't break some part of the OS itself would constitute worse than the malware itself.

and only malware infamous enough for me to hear about was cryptolocker, which doesn't descriminate from xp/7/8 and the precautions/fix are all the same.

Hold your horses,first I was being polite and not arrogant,if anybody is being rude its you ,also I stated some reasons why ,end of the day you have to be realistic and expect/accept ANY OS you can name to have end of life date,simple as that and it's not being arrogant or rude.


Btw be careful how you post,MODs expect all members here to behave according to the forum rules.

 

[escrow4]

that analogy is wrong in more ways than one.

re any OS that holds or will hold major market share. Im refering to consumer use, buisness usage differs along with its risk factors.

end of support date has little to nothing to do with how likely your system will be compromised

<snip>

Wrong. What do you think hackers and malware authors are preparing for? Exactly people like you. XP is still one of the most used OS's and Microsoft is not going to support it from April. BOOM. All the patches for Vista through 8.1 will be reverse engineered just to see what will break XP. It will be a hilarious nightmare.

 

[jolancer]

Hold your horses,first I was being polite and not arrogant,if anybody is being rude its you

I never said you were being anything close to rude. If that's how it came across i failed.

I stated some reasons why ,end of the day you have to be realistic and expect/accept ANY OS you can name to have end of life date,simple as that

sorry, didn't spot any imaginary valid reasons beneath the verbal diarrhea.

Oh unless you meant this?
"I think most of us have moved on from XP"

Or this?
"I find upgrading not much of a problem"

Or?
"I'll be upgrading to Win9"

did you mean reasons for upgrading or reasons you should see a psychologist?

Btw be careful how you post,MODs expect all members here to behave according to the forum rules.

I think you have grossly overestimated the importance of the forum. much less a topic which is more of a comedy.

 

[VirtualLarry]

internet access for employees will be limited etc.

It just sucks that people with older software that works fine have to upgrade. I suppose for a single home user the cry to "just upgrade" seems simple, but for businesses, and particularly large businesses, it is a pain in the ass.

May I suggest a Linux VM for web browsing? Just so that they don't hose the core XP OS from malware from errant surfing.

 

[jolancer]

Wrong.

IM CONVINCED!

All the patches for Vista through 8.1 will be reverse engineered just to see what will break XP. It will be a hilarious nightmare.

you just totally contradicted yourself lol

BOOM.

BOOM?

oh you mean BOOM..
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=36009732&highlight=#post36009732
BOOM..
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=35970383&highlight=#post35970383
BOOM..
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=35964025&highlight=#post35964025
BOOM..
http://forums.anandtech.com/search.php?searchid=1856547

anything else would you like to add to you dumbfolio?

 

[Mem]

Obviously you're doing your best to insult or bait me,however we all know XP is full of security holes and newer operating systems were released to improve that aspect, sound was also redesigned from Vista onwards to improve stability especially to stop hardware sound driver crashes ie BSOD,you can only do so much OS fixing until the OS itself has to be phased out and newer version improve/fixes on the previous generation.

Try thinking before XP and after,also try making a mature post without insults it's not hard.

 

[ninaholic37]

IM CONVINCED!

I'm not. If my laptop ever dies, I'll just buy another used XP one (dual boot it with Linux). :awe:

 

[jolancer]

Obviously you're doing your best to insult or bait me,however we all know XP is full of security holes and newer operating systems were released to improve that aspect, sound was also redesigned from Vista onwards to improve stability especially to stop hardware sound driver crashes ie BSOD,you can only do so much OS fixing until the OS itself has to be phased out and newer version improve/fixes on the previous generation.

Try thinking before XP and after,also try making a mature post without insults it's not hard.

compared to your initial reasoning of "I enjoy upgrading everyone should do it without reason"
you came much closer this time to an actual response. unfortunately still not logical enough tho to hold any ground under "everyone should upgrade because microsoft is ending updates"

If your statment were true, you would be more secure staying with XP than upgrading. New OS different vulnerabilities. XP has had XXamount of years of security patches. 7/8 has had Xamount of years less of security patches. there would be Xamount more of unpached vulnerabilities to exploit in 7/8

also if there were any ground under that argument, you should of pushed it many years ago. not because microsoft is ending updates for xp

 

[escrow4]

IM CONVINCED!



you just totally contradicted yourself lol



BOOM?

oh you mean BOOM..
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=36009732&highlight=#post36009732
BOOM..
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=35970383&highlight=#post35970383
BOOM..
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=35964025&highlight=#post35964025
BOOM..
http://forums.anandtech.com/search.php?searchid=1856547

anything else would you like to add to you dumbfolio?

And your response is what? Whine, whine, whine, my old ass OS is still secure? And how am I contradicting myself? Here:

http://www.zdnet.com/windows-xp-what-to-expect-once-microsoft-shuts-down-support-7000025348/

"Criminals can reverse-engineer patches for supported operating systems issued by Microsoft and apply the vulnerabilities they uncover to no-longer-updated Windows XP devices."

Look elsewhere. Its all over.

 

[jolancer]

And your response is what? Whine, whine, whine, my old ass OS is still secure?

must have forgot who you were responding to. bothersome, but i understand. people who get tricked into taking mood altering medications because they were sold on having some fictitious behavioral disorder more often than not end up with consentration and memory issues.

reminder,
true - you can upgrade your OS
false - you should upgrade your OS because of speading unfounded ignorant paranoia

And how am I contradicting myself? Here:

/windows-xp-what-to-expect-once-mic...onal attacks will not be permitted -ViRGE[/b]

 

[VirtualLarry]

if you think microsoft proactively fixes anything before a complaint or issue is reported, i think you need to continue praying to the OS gods who provide the magic that gives microsoft some sort of incentive? to reverse engineer there own software? to provide fixes for hacks that there precog saw while dreaming last night.

majority if not all ms patches are from reverse engineer the problem hacks that are found or submitted to them. so in your senario, a hacker would be reverse engineering a patch to there own hack to find a flaw that they already new about??

on the same hand you realize the majority if not all the patches are for holes which are exploited only after an attacker has persuaded you to execute there software to win a free ipod, etc. which has little relative argument between OS's, since clicking on or executing malitious code on any microsoft OS is equally as bad of an idea.

Patches are important. I went away on vacation one time, and came back, and was surfing a little, ahem, recreational material on the internet, and I had neglected to run Windows Update before going surfing.

Well, I got OWNED HARD right away. Bad links popping up, Windows Help and Support exploit, command prompt windows popping up everywhere, severe and total ownage.

If you don't think that this is going to happen to nearly every XP user connected to the internet, within weeks of XP's EOL date, you are deluding yourself.

Edit: Even worse, should the user need to re-format, the Windows Update patches for existing exploits will no longer be available anymore for download. So, assuming that the user sticks with XP because they're a cheapskate and unwilling to pay for an upgrade, the problem is only going to get worse over time, as afflicted XP boxes have to re-format, and lose their patch status.

This being said, there are a few things that one could do to mitigate the issues. SRP being one of the big ones, if one happens to have XP Pro instead of XP Home. However, I don't think that would have prevented the Help and Support exploit, since that was a function built-in to Windows and would have been allowed to execute regardless.

 

[nemesismk2]

And your response is what? Whine, whine, whine, my old ass OS is still secure? And how am I contradicting myself? Here:

http://www.zdnet.com/windows-xp-what-to-expect-once-microsoft-shuts-down-support-7000025348/

"Criminals can reverse-engineer patches for supported operating systems issued by Microsoft and apply the vulnerabilities they uncover to no-longer-updated Windows XP devices."

Look elsewhere. Its all over.

I think windows 7 is just as hackable as windows xp because all it takes is a user visiting a dodgy website which they saw in an email or on facebook then the user has no sense.

Let's not forget about the Syrian Internet Army which has managed to hack quite a few well known websites.

 

[nemesismk2]

And your response is what? Whine, whine, whine, my old ass OS is still secure? And how am I contradicting myself? Here:

http://www.zdnet.com/windows-xp-what-to-expect-once-microsoft-shuts-down-support-7000025348/

"Criminals can reverse-engineer patches for supported operating systems issued by Microsoft and apply the vulnerabilities they uncover to no-longer-updated Windows XP devices."

Look elsewhere. Its all over.

i visited that website there was some questions on it:-

How long will 3rd party anti-malware companies support XP?

I can answer that with 2016 with Kaspersky Internet Security 2014.

At year's end, XP usage plunges as Windows 7 and 8 take over

Maybe Windows 7 but Windows 8 hardly anyone is upgrading to that.

Microsoft activation servers will allow new XP installs after doomsday?

There is a number of private companies who will keep your website safe.

Microsoft Security Essentials: No new installations after April

I have never considered Microsoft Security Essentials as giving anyone protection.

Microsoft to extend Windows XP anti-malware updates one year

Use Kaspersky Internet Security 2014 instead.

 

[jolancer]

Bad links popping up, Windows Help and Support exploit, command prompt windows popping up everywhere, severe and total ownage.

correct me if im wrong, my assumption.. that wouldn't happen to anyone unless there running ms InternetExplorer with ActiveX. or another ActiveX browser

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/

If you don't think that this is going to happen to nearly every XP user connected to the internet, within weeks of XP's EOL date, you are deluding yourself.

my only argument is theres no sense to needlessly scare those who have basic computer sense, which those who do, will not be using IE, problem solved. Those using IE probably already upgraded and if not, I am more horrified that they choose to use IE no matter the version of windows

Even worse, should the user need to re-format, the Windows Update patches for existing exploits will no longer be available anymore for download.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=24

http://clonezilla.org/

 

[VirtualLarry]

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=24

http://clonezilla.org/

And your point? That's SP3. Not the 190+ post-SP3 patches that are also necessary for a "fully patched" (as well as possible, I guess) system.

My point still stands. The more XP systems that get p0wn3d, and have to be re-formatted, the more that there will be bare-SP unpatched XP systems out there to be 0wn3d again.

Some people may not want to fix their exploited XP systems, or care enough, or have enough $$$ for computer repair. (If they can't afford $100 for a new OS, how are they going to afford a re-format, unless they search out someone on CL willing to re-format for pizza.)

 

[jolancer]

And your point? That's SP3. Not the 190+ post-SP3 patches that are also necessary for a "fully patched" (as well as possible, I guess) system.

My point still stands. The more XP systems that get p0wn3d, and have to be re-formatted, the more that there will be bare-SP unpatched XP systems out there to be 0wn3d again.

Some people may not want to fix their exploited XP systems, or care enough, or have enough $$$ for computer repair. (If they can't afford $100 for a new OS, how are they going to afford a re-format, unless they search out someone on CL willing to re-format for pizza.)

all of your points are moot after considering,

) those who cant afford to upgrade won't be upgrading

) those who already know how to use clonezilla as an example(could be any image backup) arn't subject to your reverse patch concern. tho image backup moot's patches altogether.

) those where xp more than suites there needs and they do not care/want/afford to upgrade, using basic precautions for online use will actually make them more secure than anyone on an upgraded system who does not know or use basic online safe practice. <which is moot because the people im refering to already know how to do this.

) your specific type of attach concern is also illogical. IF people over ~13yrs old wanted to make any use of hacking an OS besides waisting there time, they will not want to break the OS but instead privacy infiltrate your system. which microsoft your isp and your government are already doing. there is the posibility you may be even more suseptable to such privacy concerns because of local gov policies after upgrading.

) your hole system upgrade argument is referring to a single aspect of the OS (internet use), you want more security online? you can change the applications you use to interface as just one example(IE vs Firefox)

 

[VirtualLarry]

all of your points are moot after considering,

) those who cant afford to upgrade won't be upgrading
Then they should upgrade to Linux, being free and all. They shouldn't be using an outdated no-longer-patched OS. It's a hazard to the internet community at large.

) those who already know how to use clonezilla as an example(could be any image backup) arn't subject to your reverse patch concern. tho image backup moot's patches altogether.
Not really. So instead of having to reformat after being owned, they restore from a backup instead. So now they just get owned next week too because their OS is unpatched against new vulns. And have to restore again, ad infinitum.

) those where xp more than suites there needs and they do not care/want/afford to upgrade, using basic precautions for online use will actually make them more secure than anyone on an upgraded system who does not know or use basic online safe practice. <which is moot because the people im refering to already know how to do this.
"best practices" won't protect you from 0-days, and poisoned ads.

) your specific type of attach concern is also illogical. IF people over ~13yrs old wanted to make any use of hacking an OS besides waisting there time, they will not want to break the OS but instead privacy infiltrate your system. which microsoft your isp and your government are already doing. there is the posibility you may be even more suseptable to such privacy concerns because of local gov policies after upgrading.
So, your argument is that, because MS and TLAs are spying on you and hacking you, that organized crime or individual criminal elements on the internet won't? Or that it won't matter if you get exploited, since MS is already spying on you, so in the bigger picture it doesn't matter? Great logic there...

) your hole system upgrade argument is referring to a single aspect of the OS (internet use), you want more security online? you can change the applications you use to interface as just one example(IE vs Firefox)
while this is true, what about things like Java and the Flash Player plugin? They are semi-required for surfing these days (well, Flash is), and what happens when they stop updating these for XP? Again, exploit city, because the user is running on an unsupported platform.

It is utter foolishness to continue to use XP past EOL, and continue to use the internet on it.

 

[jolancer]

Then they should upgrade to Linux, being free and all.

I never comment on linux at this point in time because linux distros are too scattered. And recommendations on linux distro's are too specific, unless you know what hardware the person is using and what applications they need it to work with etc. granted that goes for any OS however the support/applications/distros for linux are Way more scattered/disorganized at this point in time. It is getting better, hardware support will be less hit or miss as distro's grow consistantly over time, and information/support will be less confusing and less scattered as more distro teams continue to merge and combine common goals VS forking and creating more of a mess. after that happens you will no longer need to recommend specific distro's for specific hardware/tasks as package managment becomes universally efficent without all the forks and fluff, you could then use a distro and beable to feasibly use or find support without driver/kernel version dependency hell, and opinions galore.

you can currently recommend some common distro's for people with some common hardware and hope they don't run into dependancy issues, however your only refering to one task.. internet browsing. I don't know what else they typically use, and all the above, etc.

I think linux has the potential to be universally recommended in the future.
right now you can safely attempt live booting or duel booting linux, beyond that is unknown without your own personal testing of linux on your own system for your own personal tasks.

So instead of having to reformat after being owned, they restore from a backup instead. So now they just get owned next week too because their OS is unpatched against new vulns. And have to restore again, ad infinitum.

your comment on my last previous comment, contradicts this senario ever happening.

[EDIT: not to mention if you didn't learn the first time from what shady site and activity owned you, you deserve to get owned the 2nd time LoL, fool me twice shame on me]

"best practices" won't protect you from 0-days, and poisoned ads.

I'm not familiar with any specific malware, but since you mention specifically 0-days and a claim that it would circumvent "best practice", i will check it out... If any malware can circumvent "best practices" i would be very impressed. and I'm not referring to the ones that trick you through very sly social engineering, those are situational per person and apply to any OS.

"poisoned ads' first thought would be any of these would avoid that.. noScript, Adblock, Hosts.

[EDIT: quick search turns up Zero-Day as being a very generalized term, and not any specific type of malware aside from those that have not yet been 'patched'. so 0-day circumventing "best practices" would be completely false]

So, your argument is that, because MS and TLAs are spying on you and hacking you, that organized crime or individual criminal elements on the internet won't? Or that it won't matter if you get exploited, since MS is already spying on you, so in the bigger picture it doesn't matter? Great logic there...

was attempting to point out that ms dropping support isn't the deciding end all factor on overall practical OS security. Its a small piece of the pie for some, and in actuality not the hole pie for anyone

while this is true, what about things like Java and the Flash Player plugin? They are semi-required for surfing these days (well, Flash is), and what happens when they stop updating these for XP? Again, exploit city, because the user is running on an unsupported platform.

Java and Flash are security pitfalls on every OS. you can use noScript. And if your even more worried you can use something like Flashblock for the indevidual elements inside official pages you end up whitelisting for noScript, you could but i dont do that myself since i feel thats nearing double overkill ontop of noScript tho not exactly.

similar to linux at some point i hope there will be a universal reliable alternative IF flash is still prevelant in the future. Im not familiar with any way to 100% gaurented safegaurd against java/flash security pitfalls on sites you choose to whitelist from noScript, aside from not using java/flash. but that risk is not isolated to xp. hopefully web developers will be more security contious and insightful on how and what scripting languages thy implement in the future

I havn't used these. from the gist of it, it would seem to me that they are far from a universal flash plugin alternative. but if you enjoy experimenting one of them may work for you on popular sites.

ViewTube for greasemonkey (no link cause forum breaks it
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Shumway

It is utter foolishness to continue to use XP past EOL, and continue to use the internet on it.

Yes for some people, some people couldn't even turn on a vcr

No for some others who have an already secured OS for there own practical purposes. the foolishness there would just be a lemming

 

[ArisVer]

And your point? That's SP3. Not the 190+ post-SP3 patches that are also necessary for a "fully patched" (as well as possible, I guess) system.

And why does not Microsoft release an SP4 with the latest patches at the EOL? Some people want to use the XP... for ever it seems.

 

[nemesismk2]

Just saw this on the Kaspersky blog

Microsoft will officially be ending support for the much beloved operating system, Windows XP on April 8th. With support ending for this OS, questions have arisen from our users regarding what will happen to Kaspersky security products once this has happened. Rest assured, Kaspersky Lab will continue to provide support. Current versions of our consumer products and at least two next generations will be installed and correctly function on the XP platform.

http://blog.kaspersky.com/xp-is-there-life-after-the-end-of-support/

 

[Morbus]

It is utter foolishness to continue to use XP past EOL, and continue to use the internet on it.

You are kind to put it that way, sir.

I find much harsher adjectivation is in order when characterizing such individuals.

 

[B-Riz]

FWIW, I have found a local Mom and Pop shop that will sell a digital key for Win 7 Home @ $60; you find the ISO and make a USB install drive.

So check around for your one off computer shops that have a MS re-sellers license.

This is a dang good deal, as Win 7 can be run on a lot of the last P4's and single core Athlon 64's that were sold.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/system-requirements

And disregarding the reasoning of "I don't need to upgrade from XP cause I know how to not FUBAR XP"; Windows 7 has massive kernel, security and general usability upgrades that makes using a computer much nicer.

It was a nightmare using the XP computer at work, (waiting for them to migrate to 7) and then going home and doing stuff on the 7 box.

 

[postmortemIA]

I feel sorry for elderly people who are on IE and Windows XP. millions will be victims of drive-by website attacks workout even knowing they are vulnerable. At some point Firefox and chrome last versions won't be installable on XP. Since malware successfully spreads through legal ads, there won't be safe sites.

 

[jolancer]

Windows 7 has massive kernel, security and general usability upgrades that makes using a computer much nicer.

I dare you to try and specify any proof of what you just said LoL

It was a nightmare using the XP computer at work, (waiting for them to migrate to 7) and then going home and doing stuff on the 7 box.

again I dare you to specify anything. I've seen just about every OS out there, besides the visual GUI appearance of win7, what again do you say it magically does for you, that no other OS's can do?... Besides DX11. and wasting about 10x more HDD space?

saddly i feel like i have to specifiy this now not cause of you, but cause of responses like yours in effect making me point out how dumb your blanket nonsense remarks sound, i feel not only is the point being lost in the nonsense. but for anyone seeing the length of this topic is more likely to miss interperet my responses not in the defense of common sense trying to untwist your demented logic, but simply as an XP fanboy. which i am not. I've seen almost every type of OS out there(except those b4 i was born or of age). And with what I've seen, if you don't have a purpose to upgrade and your choosing to do so only because of microsoft ending patches for xp(which is actually doing you a favor) , and you want to throw your cash at something...

...I would hands down highly recommend those to just get a Mac (ofcourse ignoring those who want to use DX11 games, because those ppl are not in this topic seeing as they have already upgraded or choosen to upgrade because of GAMES not MS EOL of XP)

...now i will sit back and laugh, simply that.. as baboons throw nonsensical argument toward the second most logical solution for this microsoft circus

I feel sorry for elderly people who are on IE and Windows XP. millions will be victims of drive-by website attacks workout even knowing they are vulnerable. At some point Firefox and chrome last versions won't be installable on XP. Since malware successfully spreads through legal ads, there won't be safe sites.

very very interesting.. your disability doesn't allow you to be able to read any preceding responses to a topic yet you still have enough cognitive ability to type. I'd suggest if your not already at to apply with a university that holds a prominent medical program, with such a distinct disability im sure professors there would give you full grant sponsorship in exchange for participation as there research subject. oh darn thats right, your not able to read responses. INVU, everyday must be a ball for you living in ignorant bliss