Derp. People have the right to vote for a union or not.
They have a right to work in a union shop or not.
No free government would dictate whether they can or not.
Get it?
These labor issues were as recent as 2005-2006. They were pushing 12% while we were at 5%. I explain their increasing of exports as they are making products people in China want to purchase.
Not saying this isnt a good idea. I just dont know enough about it. On the face of it, it does sound good. But at the same time we are not Germany.
Small vs big business in this country is a huge govt issue. As we have already seen. Small business has almost no chance against big business in this country. Each day big business enacts regulation that makes it harder for small business to start, grow, and survive. This is why I am always talking about decentralizing power out of DC. You complain about the welfare for the rich and big business. I agree! But what most people dont understand or want to see. Big business is getting govt regulation enacted to crush small business. That is even more damaging imo. Because small and medium business are the growth drivers in this economy. And it sickens me to see Obama hold a jobs council and invite big business leaders to the white house to discusss how to create jobs. Big business doesnt create jobs in this country!
That surge has carried Germany out of the Great Recession more quickly than most major industrialized countries. GDP rose 3.6% in 2010, compared with 2.9% in the U.S. While joblessness in the U.S. and much of Europe has spiked to levels not seen in decades, unemployment in Germany has declined during the crisis, to an estimated 6.9% in 2010 from 8.6% in 2007, according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). "Germany is in a very competitive position today, more than ever," proclaims Stéphane Garelli, director of the World Competitiveness Center at the Swiss business school IMD.
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Why should the government have a law that people who want to work for it have to join a union and take their money by force?
If you want to work for the government you should have a choice weather you want to join an organization and directly take money from your pay check to them.
The government is not dictating shit. You're the one who wants them to. You're the one who wants dictating, I want freedom and choice. Get it?
If people want to form unions that is fine. But those that do not want to be a part of a union should not be affect by them. Forcing people to pay union dues by LAW is a scam.
Sorry, I can't debate points that you simply make up in your head.
Buh-bye.
People don't always have a choice to join a union if they want a job. When i was in high school and worked at a grocery store, I was forced to join the union even though I didn't want to (And they provided no real benefit for me). Yet every week, I'd have to pay dues whether I wanted to or not.
That's a crock of shit.
Have your unions, but you should not be able to force people to join them.
a unionized public employee, a tea partier and a ceo are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The ceo reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the tea partier and says, "watch out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie
A unionized public employee, a Tea Partier and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the tea partier and says, "Watch out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie
THAT'S my point mainly. My gf is dumping money into something that she does NOT get any kind of protection from. She could be paying off student loans with that money
a unionized public employee, a tea partier and a ceo are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The ceo reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the tea partier and says, "watch out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie
A majority of your fellow workers voted to unionize.
That's their right.
You had every right to work elsewhere.
A unionized public employee, a Tea Partier and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the tea partier and says, "Watch out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie
Yup I can't wait until we get 18 hour days at suicidal inducing FoxConn company compounds building Phones for Chinese.
Right wing is so utterly clueless. Almost all wealth is controlled by .01% and while trying to further their gains they cheer em on.
Let me tell you something. I'm close to 1% but I would have nothing without a vibrant middle class to sell my warez to. I built homes, Mcmansions sold to a vibrant middle/upper middle class. I sell Liquor to a vibrant middle upper middle class. Without them I have nothing. I want everyone union making 100K a year.
Derp. People have the right to vote for a union or not.
They have a right to work in a union shop or not.
No free government would dictate whether they can or not.
Get it?
A majority of your fellow workers voted to unionize.
That's their right.
You had every right to work elsewhere.
A unionized public employee, a Tea Partier and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the tea partier and says, "Watch out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie
You have every right to go work elsewhere.
The CEO built the company that baked the cookies AND brought them to the table.
You are such a hypocrite it is disgusting. You want a dictatorship concerning where people can work.
The CEO also laid everyone off after he built up the company and moved the 'manufacturing' of the cookies to Mexico.
A unionized public employee, a Tea Partier and a CEO are sitting at a table. In the middle of the table is a plate with a dozen cookies on it. The CEO reaches across and takes 11 cookies, looks at the tea partier and says, "Watch out for that union guy, he wants a piece of your cookie
A majority of your fellow workers voted to unionize.
That's their right.
You had every right to work elsewhere.
...because the workers unionized and started asking for wages/benefits/retirement funds that would bankrupt the company within 2 generations. What a bastard that CEO is for wanting his company to continue surviving.
The problem is that since the 80's (and before), the unions have lost a lot of power. I don't know why for i have never been in an union myself. But those I know that are and were have been hit hard by tactics aimed against unions by various presidents and non union business.
What I do believe is everyone that works for a living, union or not, has greatly benefited from what unions have done for NON union workers. True trickle down effect. Non union workers have been paid better because non union companies are afraid of workers unionizing. That is a fact!
I know from experience on that fact.
Where I work, part of the company is warehouse operations. A lot of people work in the warehouse (not me however). The warehouse workers are paid very well. Nears $20 an hour To START!
The company pays that high because every so often unions try to come in and organize warehouse workers to unionize. Every time (so far) the warehouse workers have voted the union down.
If that threat of unionization were not a threat, the warehouse workers pay scale would drop like a rock. Warehouse workers would be lucky to get minimum wage to start.
Example, our company also employs its own janitorial staff. They are non union. Their starting wage is minimum wage. The longest employed janitor has been there over 20 years and makes $10 an hour. $10 after 20 years, full time. Most janitors can not afford the company health insurance offered, and so they do not take it.
That is one example. If you work non union and make a good wage, you can probably thank the union system for that benefit. THAT is a FACT!
And there are a few more trickle down benefits non union workers benefit from the backs of union workers:
An 8 hour work day.
Company healthcare insurance.
Safe working environment.
Weekends off.
I bet a lot of people here can add to that list.
And besides... Company based healthcare is the American way. The American healthcare system everyone has embraced lately when Obama tried to include some sort of government based healthcare.
Take away unions, and tell me where is the incentive for any company to offer healthcare insurance? Think of the money non union business could save by NOT offering employees healthcare.
And if your employer stops offering healthcare, I WANT TO KNOW where you are going to get your healthcare insurance from? From the insurance companies directly? HA HA... Good luck with THAT! Especially if you're over 40, or have any pre existing like high blood pressure, or any stage diabetes, or if your over weight at all, or maybe you are healthy and young but someone in your family ever had cancer, or an heart attack, or diabetes, or.... well you name it.
So you HATE the UNIONS? Want them terminated? REALLY....