[Engadget]nVidia will power driverless race series

[thesmokingman]

My point is that you could to a large degree take all the drivers in F1 and randomly distribute amongst the teams, and the same cars would win as before.

In other words the car makes a much bigger difference in who wins in F1 than the driver does, thus it is largely a technological show off. Even if FIA would like you to think otherwise.

Tell that to the ghost of Senna.

for ex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hUWuR2Dj78

 

[thesmokingman]

Cars make all the difference...

That explains why Senna out qualified Prost by more than a second driving the same car, even at short courses like Monaco which is huge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awCuP_umhVA&nohtml5

 

[Dribble]

F1 is cars and drivers, but tbh the difference in performance of the cars is bigger then the difference in ability of the drivers.

The big advantage of driverless race cars is you can't kill the driver so be much more fun if they made the cars tough and encouraged a bit of contact

 

[antihelten]

Tell that to the ghost of Senna.

for ex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hUWuR2Dj78

You mean the Senna who crashed and died after FIA outlawed a bunch of technological driver aids for the '94 season.

The Senna that was infamous for all his collisions (arguably done to take out competitors and win the championship).

The Senna who won his first championship in one of the most dominant cars F1 has seen (MP4/4) (and would have lost to Prost if the modern day point system had been used), his second after crashing out Prost, and his third largely because Williams didn't get their FW14 ready in time (if the FW14 had been as reliable in the first half of the season as it was in the second, then Mansell would probably have won the championship).

yeah I'm not really sure how that proves that the driver is more important than the car.

Honestly I can't help but think, that if Senna hadn't crashed in San Marino, then he would never have been mythologised to the point that he is today.

 

[MrTeal]

F1 is cars and drivers, but tbh the difference in performance of the cars is bigger then the difference in ability of the drivers.

That's bullcrap. You could take a double world champion out of a Ferrari and stick him in an uncompetitive unreliable POS, and I'm sure he'd still be out there getting podiums and winn...

Umm..

 

[zentan]

You mean the Senna who crashed and died after FIA outlawed a bunch of technological driver aids for the '94 season. The Senna that was infamous for all his collisions (arguably done to take out competitors and win the championship). The Senna who won his first championship in one of the most dominant cars F1 has seen (MP4/4), his second after crashing out Prost, and his third largely because Williams didn't get their FW14 ready in time (if the FW14 had been as reliable in the first half of the season as it was in the second, then Mansell would probably have won the championship).

yeah I'm not really sure how that proves that the driver is more important than the car.

Honestly I can't help but think, that if Senna hadn't crashed in San Marino, then he would never have been mythologised to the point that he is today.

Well,there is no doubt that Senna was undoubtedly one of the fastest in single lap.Clarke,Senna and Schumacher were few standouts of full domination over a single lap plus being exceptional in all race conditions,wet-weather,street,etc.But yeah there is no doubt Senna has been made God especially by the recent documentary on him(which skips so many of his questionable tactics,Imola incident with Prost and some of his crashes) and where Prost and Schumacher are shown as some kind of negative characteristics without actually being that objective and fair from all sides.Also in Monaco 1988 Qualy,Prost had some issues towards the end,but anyway it was a classic lap but such gaps in the top team-mates weren't possible after mid-90s years after that(unless your team-mate is a level below you) and with more electronic aids,improved traction control and other improvements there remained lesser areas where a driver could show that much of a dominance.Anyway this is an endless topic.

Anyway on-topic,don't see the negativity around this event.It's not like F1,nascar and other forms have been replaced by this event.People are free to watch whatever they like.

 

[airfathaaaaa]

the reason as to why we want humans is because of the human error and the human fantasy and because no a.i can give us such a thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9JGBNkyGm4

 

[Vortex6700]

Go play arma and tell me these AI are going to have an easy go at driving competitively in situations they weren't specifically set up for.

If you still think it's boring put a dog in each car and set an inverse relationship between the max acceleration and the dog's bpm.

 

[moonbogg]

Autobots

Imagine if there was another intelligent species on earth with us called the Nvidians, and we learned that the Nvidians used to mistreat and enslave the Neanderthals. How would we feel today about our relationship with the Nvidians? I would destroy all Nvidians for mistreating my ancestors.
Your picture. Its probably real.

 

[thesmokingman]

You mean the Senna who crashed and died after FIA outlawed a bunch of technological driver aids for the '94 season.

The Senna that was infamous for all his collisions (arguably done to take out competitors and win the championship).

The Senna who won his first championship in one of the most dominant cars F1 has seen (MP4/4) (and would have lost to Prost if the modern day point system had been used), his second after crashing out Prost, and his third largely because Williams didn't get their FW14 ready in time (if the FW14 had been as reliable in the first half of the season as it was in the second, then Mansell would probably have won the championship).

yeah I'm not really sure how that proves that the driver is more important than the car.

Honestly I can't help but think, that if Senna hadn't crashed in San Marino, then he would never have been mythologised to the point that he is today.

Seriously? Could you be the biggest ass ever by tainting his crash implying it was the FIA banned aids, which caused him to crash because of his lack of skill or something that stupid? Really, that is an incredible jump and disrespect to Senna.

The point you made was that the drivers don't really matter. But instead of debating the point that YOU made, you go on a rant about Senna.

And about the MP4, you ignored the whole point of it, which was that if the car made all the difference, why did Senna routinely out lap and out qaully Prost? If the car made all the difference how could one driver put a second on his teammate in the same car?

But no, you take the chance to disparage Senna, whom is universally looked upon as the greatest driver by just fans but his peers. Is it because you came up with nothing, so instead you go full ad hominem on Senna. Classy!