Limited qualities?...nah!...pre-order BF4 limited edition yes, but not of the generic chip..
very odd they say this right when amd is releasing their card.
so obvious that something is fishy.
I think origin CEO has small man syndrome. amd has limited quantities of Hawaii and didn't send any to origin. all other OEM probably got a shipment or notification of expected stock. and rather than look silly without any Hawaii cards, he just comes out and says "we don't want you" to save face. nobody questions why origin has no Hawaii cards.
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Jon Bach, president and founder of Seattle’s Puget Systems, provided a cornucopia of reliability data culled from testing of 5698 units. Here’s what he had to say via email:
”It is hard to quantify customer experience, but one thing I can quantify is reliability. How many have failed? Here’s a report from the last 3 years.
But more important than failure rate is how many failed in our customer hands? We do a lot of testing here to weed out as many bad cards as possible in our build process. Here’s how many have failed in the field over the last 3 years:
- Nvidia: 5.36% total failures (in our testing + in the field)
- AMD: 8.89% total failures (in our testing + in the field)
Here’s that same info, over the last 1 year only:
- Nvidia: 2.42% failures in the field
- AMD: 3.23% failures in the field
So yes, AMD does have a higher failure rate, but nothing that puts up such a big red flag that I would want to drop their product.”
- Nvidia: 4.95% total failures (in our testing + in the field)
- AMD: 7.79% total failures (in our testing + in the field)
- Nvidia: 1.02% failures in the field
- AMD: 3.25% failures in the field
It varies each year. He simply cherry picked the worst for Nvidia.That data is worthless, if we are discussing current markets.
In other words, your mind is made up and no amount of following up with all parties will change that.
Awesome there.
I didn't cherry pick anything I just found a link from a while back and had no idea behardware was doing this regularly.
From your links however I see that both sides graphics cards are nowhere near the top of the hardware failure list. As an ex-OEM I know that memory, mobo's, PSU's and hard drives are far worse and this is also shown in your links.
So yeah, I guess we should be asking to see his failure rates and why AMD was singled out for special attention.
"The decision to take AMD GPU’s off the web was made based on support. More Specifically, support from AMD to Origin, and Origin to our customers.
Utterly uninteresting. We are talking a total of perhaps 5000 units.
So the guy is pissed that AMD didn't ship R9 preview hardware to his tiny little company, and as a result throws a public hissy fit? Nice one.
Where did you get that?
"The decision to take AMD GPU’s off the web was made based on support. More Specifically, support from AMD to Origin, and Origin to our customers.
Take their last chipset announcement for example. It was another hardware representative that informed us of the new Hawaii chipset. AMD never told us anything about it, nor shared a road map outlining its future integration. When we did get with our AMD representative, we were told that there was a new chipset launching, and we could watch the event live and get answers to our questions.
We also asked for samples to start our research and development process, something that is standard in the industry for bleeding edge integrators, and we were met with resistance there... When they did agree to send samples it was for [two] R9 270’s, rather than the R9 280's or 290's that we would be more likely to offer...
Moreover, this wasn’t the first time AMD had done something like this to us. Support from AMD to Origin hasn’t been where it should be or up to par like we get from other vendors. In my opinion it's due to our size. We don’t move enough AMD product for them to worry about us. You would think they would work with us to help grow the Origin-AMD business relationship."
From the PCWorld update:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2052...ion-to-so-publicly-dump-amd-video-cards-.html
He felt unloved by AMD, so he threw his toys out of the pram.
EDIT: Also, lol at him referring to his company as "bleeding edge integrators". Your job is to slap together components in a box, and make sure you put in enough fans.
EDIT: Also, lol at him referring to his company as "bleeding edge integrators". Your job is to slap together components in a box, and make sure you put in enough fans.
Why would he say that he called Nvidia and said he was dropping AMD? That throws a red flag in itself.
Maybe AMD will release a statement stating their side of the issue with Origin PC.
Yep. But any sponsorship is. Its no different than lobbyism=corruption. We just like to call it something else so it sounds ok.
When AMD or nVidia hands a company 5-8 million. Its quite obvious they want something in return. And thats running better than it else would on their products, or even make the competitors product run worse. And thats outright cheating. AMD and nVidia didnt pay DICE and Ubisoft a free check of the desired millions with no obligations. No, they want return for their money.
Well, apparently NV sends them pre-release hardware? They're just selling the stuff though. No big deal. I mean, who needs custom water blocks for water cooled hardware and such. Water blocks for water cooling are overrated anyway, right? Not to mention validation for pre-overclocked systems which Origin also sells. AMD can't be bothered to actually help the OEMs that, you know, sell their hardware.
AMD doesn't care about those missed sales, though, clearly that's why nobody is making a fuss about it.
On a serious note, I dont' see what the big deal is. OEMs that sell your hardware are there to help you sell your wares. It is also common for pre-release hardware to be sampled by OEMs well before release - this is especially true with ultrabooks and macbooks.
They don't make custom waterblocks, they take them from EK or Asetek or god knows who. Sure, they could do some early testing with pre-release cards, but you have to sell enough units for it to make sense. Why don't I claim myself a "Boutique PC builder" and demand 5 of their best cards before the release date just because I built a handful of PC's?
Origin founder just sounds like he doesn't understand the nature of his low-volume, niche business. Don't expect support like the big dogs.
It wouldn't surprise me if OriginPC gets more business from this whole thing, compared to previous months/quarters/years.