[engadget] Origin PC drops AMD graphics options due to feedback, support woes

[railven]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/...h_End_PCs_to_Play_Games_in_4K_Resolution.html

http://www.falcon-nw.com/promo/battlebox

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/nvidia-battle-box.asp

http://www.maingear.com/battlebox/

http://www.originpc.com/landing/nvidia-battlebox/

Must be all in on it? Where there is fire there is smoke?

They're all Nvidia exclusive vendors too?

 

[AnandThenMan]

Just look at those systems. They cost twice, in some cases, three times as much as the components are worth.

But it comes with a free T-shirt.

 

[n0x1ous]

They're all Nvidia exclusive vendors too?

Didnt Maingear have a presentation at the AMD Hawaii event? Pretty sure they must not be Nvidia exclusive

 

[railven]

Didnt Maingear have a presentation at the AMD Hawaii event? Pretty sure they must not be Nvidia exclusive

Just curious since I just started reading this thread now. I assumed him posting them was a defense against the claim of Origin PC taking a bribe.

If they aren't Nvidia exclusive I don't get how they are relevant to the conversation at hand.

Either way, I too clicked the thread thinking it was EA Origin haha. I didn't know who Origin PC was. The things you learn.

 

[n0x1ous]

Just curious since I just started reading this thread now. I assumed him posting them was a defense against the claim of Origin PC taking a bribe.

If they aren't Nvidia exclusive I don't get how they are relevant to the conversation at hand.

Either way, I too clicked the thread thinking it was EA Origin haha. I didn't know who Origin PC was. The things you learn.

I cut and pasted the thread title directly from engadget. Never crossed my mind about the possible confusion between Origin PC and EA Origin as I had heard of them but definitely understand why many havent.

Would be pretty funny if EA Origin (BF4) dropped AMD GPUS (mantle) LOL
I mean wouldnt make any sense from either side.....

 

[SirPauly]

They're all Nvidia exclusive vendors too?

No!


More from the CEO of origin via twitter:

https://twitter.com/ORIGINPCCEO

 

[railven]

No!


More from the CEO of origin via twitter:

https://twitter.com/ORIGINPCCEO

Woof, not sure if this is the press he was looking for.

 

[NIGELG]

LOL.

Just look at those systems. They cost twice, in some cases, three times as much as the components are worth.

Heck, I have a reasonable amount of disposable income but would never buy one of those things. Those are bigger rip-offs than the Titan was.

He's just defending his team as usual.....

 

[NIGELG]

No!


More from the CEO of origin via twitter:

https://twitter.com/ORIGINPCCEO

That twitter feed is a train wreck...

 

[AnandThenMan]

I was thinking the same thing. Publicly bad mouthing a company like that = really dumb and shows a lack of class, not to mention lack of business sense.

 

[Keysplayr]

I was thinking the same thing. Publicly bad mouthing a company like that = really dumb and shows a lack of class, not to mention lack of business sense.

I must say, that was pretty freaking stupid. Maybe he feels that any press (bad or good) is good for OriginPC.
Everyone here keeps saying how small of a company they are. Not even a blip on the map.
Guess what. Everyone in this industry now knows about them.
So......stupid like a fox? I dunno. Maybe.

 

[KingFatty]

It wouldn't surprise me if OriginPC gets more business from this whole thing, compared to previous months/quarters/years.

 

[SirPauly]

That twitter feed is a train wreck...

Maybe, but its data from the CEO! You know, where there is smoke there is fire!

 

[Erenhardt]

That twitter feed is a train wreck...

"My tech support staff asking to remove AMD GPUs because of a high % of failures isn't vague."
Wouldn't they remove specific AIB? Failing card is mostly board/component failure and not Silicon.

 

[SiliconWars]

http://www.hardware.fr/news/10126/taux-sav-cartes-graphiques.html

- GeForce GTX 280 : 9.9%
- GeForce GTX 260 : 4.3%
- GeForce 9800 : 3.2%
- GeForce 8800 : 3.3%
- Radeon HD 4870 : 3.2%
- Radeon HD 4850 : 1.9%
- Radeon HD 3870 : 2.6%

AMD had far less returns on cards only a few short years ago, with their worst return rate being the same as Nvidia's best.

 

[smackababy]

"My tech support staff asking to remove AMD GPUs because of a high % of failures isn't vague."
Wouldn't they remove specific AIB? Failing card is mostly board/component failure and not Silicon.

Maybe it wasn't a specific AIB that was failing, but all of them enough of the time to cause concern.

 

[Rvenger]

Maybe, but its data from the CEO! You know, where there is smoke there is fire!

Yeah, bringing negative attention is great for Origin PC and Nvidia.






























Not!!

 

[Rvenger]

http://www.hardware.fr/news/10126/taux-sav-cartes-graphiques.html

- GeForce GTX 280 : 9.9%
- GeForce GTX 260 : 4.3%
- GeForce 9800 : 3.2%
- GeForce 8800 : 3.3%
- Radeon HD 4870 : 3.2%
- Radeon HD 4850 : 1.9%
- Radeon HD 3870 : 2.6%

AMD had far less returns on cards only a few short years ago, with their worst return rate being the same as Nvidia's best.

This is the reason why Nvidia started locking down their cards. AMD doesn't lock their reference cards so users will overvolt and overclock with ease which makes the chance of failure more likely. AMD reference cards are normally built well.

 

[wand3r3r]

It's interesting to see the absurd statements on twitter from small companies/ceos. Larger companies generally recognize boundaries but the small ones aren't afraid to put their foot in their mouth and look stupid.

Just browsing TR, on the front page some sponsored tweets or something?

scottwasson: GeForce GTX 770 is ~8X faster than Radeon HD 6970 in polygon throughput. HD 7970 GHz is ~4X faster than 6970. Progress.

scottwasson: The GeForce GTX 780 has ~23X the tessellation throughput of the Radeon HD 5870.

Really? Wth.

Anyways, I don't care about twitter, just interesting to see foot in mouth stuff.

Jon Bach, president and founder of Seattle’s Puget Systems, provided a cornucopia of reliability data culled from testing of 5698 units. Here’s what he had to say via email:

”It is hard to quantify customer experience, but one thing I can quantify is reliability. How many have failed? Here’s a report from the last 3 years.

• Nvidia: 5.36% total failures (in our testing + in the field)
• AMD: 8.89% total failures (in our testing + in the field)

But more important than failure rate is how many failed in our customer hands? We do a lot of testing here to weed out as many bad cards as possible in our build process. Here’s how many have failed in the field over the last 3 years:

• Nvidia: 2.42% failures in the field
• AMD: 3.23% failures in the field

Here’s that same info, over the last 1 year only:

• Nvidia: 4.95% total failures (in our testing + in the field)
• AMD: 7.79% total failures (in our testing + in the field)
• Nvidia: 1.02% failures in the field
• AMD: 3.25% failures in the field

So yes, AMD does have a higher failure rate, but nothing that puts up such a big red flag that I would want to drop their product.”​

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2052...ion-to-so-publicly-dump-amd-video-cards-.html

​

 

[Pariah]

If they aren't Nvidia exclusive I don't get how they are relevant to the conversation at hand.

They're all part of the Battlebox promotion, so if they aren't Nvidia only, then that clearly is not a condition of being part of the promotion.

The timing of the announcements seems oddly coincidental, but that may be just what it is in this case. Who knows how long ago these backroom dealings began.

I don't find it unbelievable at all that Origin PC made the decision to drop AMD for the reasons they stated on their own, then went to Nvidia and asked for some "sponsorship money." The only real coincidence here is that Nvidia had the Battlebox program as a response. With the number of manufacturers involved with this, Nvidia didn't just make this up for Origin PC in response to their request. It's a situation that benefitted both companies. Though how interesting would that be when you can Mel Gibson this thing to death about how the Origin PC CEO was on the grassy knoll in Dallas and how Nvidia tried to hire assassins in Mexico to kill Fidel Castro?

 

[Pariah]

Yeah, bringing negative attention is great for Origin PC and Nvidia.

Not!!

It might very well be positive. Marketing and the public perception work in strange ways. When Chik-Fil-A made the news with their anti-gay statements, you would think that would be negative publicity, instead the intolerants rallied around the company, and their sales actually increased.

 

[smackababy]

It might very well be positive. Marketing and the public perception work in strange ways. When Chik-Fil-A made the news with their anti-gay statements, you would think that would be negative publicity, instead the intolerants rallied around the company, and their sales actually increased.

I think the Chik-Fil-A making the news made people realize they don't care if the employs call them names, as long as they give them some of that chicken.

 

[SolMiester]

why would they put out a press release in the first place?

To inform their customers and prospective ones that they listen to the feedback.

 

[tigersty1e]

very odd they say this right when amd is releasing their card.

so obvious that something is fishy.

I think origin CEO has small man syndrome. amd has limited quantities of Hawaii and didn't send any to origin. all other OEM probably got a shipment or notification of expected stock. and rather than look silly without any Hawaii cards, he just comes out and says "we don't want you" to save face. nobody questions why origin has no Hawaii cards.




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[SolMiester]

http://www.hardware.fr/news/10126/taux-sav-cartes-graphiques.html

- GeForce GTX 280 : 9.9%
- GeForce GTX 260 : 4.3%
- GeForce 9800 : 3.2%
- GeForce 8800 : 3.3%
- Radeon HD 4870 : 3.2%
- Radeon HD 4850 : 1.9%
- Radeon HD 3870 : 2.6%

AMD had far less returns on cards only a few short years ago, with their worst return rate being the same as Nvidia's best.

That data is worthless, if we are discussing current markets.