Engineer Gets 110 MPG Out Of '87 Mustang

skywhr

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Engineer Gets 110 MPG Out Of '87 Mustang

Traditional gas engines operate at 8 to 10 percent? Really?

Doug Pelmear said he isn't toying with the engine of 1987 Ford Mustang for the money.

The engineer's tinkering, however, could earn him $10 million and save him plenty more in gas money.

Pelmear, who lives in Napoleon, Ohio, has tweaked his Mustang to get 110 mpg, making the engine nearly five times as efficient as a traditional gas engine, he told the Toledo Blade newspaper.

"We redesigned a lot of different things on the [engine] block," Pelmear told the paper. "It's still a rod-and-piston engine; it just has a lot more electronics on it."

Traditional gas engines operate at 8 to 10 percent, efficiency, while the engine on the Mustang, he said, is at 38 percent efficiency.

I seareched so I hope this isnt a repost
 

Q

Lifer
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Cool!

But did it affect HP, etc? It had to

EDIT: Nevermind, read article. Claims he has 400HP
 

Engineer

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The 38% efficiency rating seems to be what I read in a "Hydraulic Hybrid" article a few weeks ago. Amazingly enough, the cars in the article achieved almost the same mileage as this guy claims and also has tremendous horsepower (up to 600 on startup) also. Makes me wonder if he read the article or if the article copied him.

If this is something different, maybe combining this with hydraulics could produce 150+ mpg! :shocked:

By the way, the "Engineer" referenced in the title and article, although similar spelling and capitalization as my user name here on AT, is of no relation or reference to me!
 

skywhr

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is it a matter of $$, is that why all engines dont operate at this efficiency?
 

Vette73

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If you believe that just send me all your money and that way it will save you the time and heart break.

I am to lazy to explian it but the whole low % engergy is bunk. A lot of the energy is heat and other items that are to hard to use.

Just use yahoo/google as this has come up and been covered 100+ times.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
If you believe that just send me all your money and that way it will save you the time and heart break.

I am to lazy to explian it but the whole low % engergy is bunk. A lot of the energy is heat and other items that are to hard to use.

Just use yahoo/google as this has come up and been covered 100+ times.

Yes, heat is quite a bit of energy. That's why the 6 stroke car (with water injection and expansion stroke from the resulting steam expansion) sounded so good. I wonder what became of that one...
 

Q

Lifer
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OK this is random and nerdy, but everytime I see the word "engineer" I always hear the quote in the German accent from Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory : "We need an engineer!"
 

skywhr

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when I hear engineer I always think of halfbaked....nevermind that was scientist not engineer....I think
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Quintox
OK this is random and nerdy, but everytime I see the word "engineer" I always hear the quote in the German accent from Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory : "We need an engineer!"

Again, no relation or reference to me.
 

yhelothar

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shens

plus he'd be asking for a lot more than $10m if he could create a 400hp car that can go 0-60 faster than a mclaren F1 and ferrari enzo that gets 110mpg.
 

Ruptga

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
If you believe that just send me all your money and that way it will save you the time and heart break.

I am to lazy to explian it but the whole low % engergy is bunk. A lot of the energy is heat and other items that are to hard to use.

Just use yahoo/google as this has come up and been covered 100+ times.

Yes, heat is quite a bit of energy. That's why the 6 stroke car (with water injection and expansion stroke from the resulting steam expansion) sounded so good. I wonder what became of that one...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_stroke_engine
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: skywhr
when I hear engineer I always think of halfbaked....nevermind that was scientist not engineer....I think

Scientist: Janitor? Uh, janitor?
[taps Thurgood, who gets frightened]
Thurgood: Ah! Oh..sorry 'bout that. What is it, scientist?
Scientist: I know this isn't your responsibility but, uh, could you be a dear and run this down to the supply department for me? It's on the second floor. [hands Thurgood a note]
Thurgood: Just run this down?
Scientist: Yes, but make sure you bring the order right back to me. I need it A.S.A.P.
Thurgood: Gotcha. Hey, I know this isn't your responsibility but just wipe the rest of this shit up [hands him a mop] I'll be right back.

:laugh:
 

0roo0roo

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1. make insane claim to rile up the green investors
2. profit!
3. pack ur bags and run!
 

JohnCU

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
1. make insane claim to rile up the green investors
2. profit!
3. pack ur bags and run!

...profit != last action ???
 

mugs

Lifer
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I swear I learned in high school physics that a gasoline engine was ~25% efficient and a diesel engine was in the low 30s...
 

biggestmuff

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That write-up is inaccurate. The dude is getting 110 MPGe, which is Miles per Gallon of Gasoline Equivalent. Not even the same thing that the article makes it seem or that a reader would think it means.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
1. make insane claim to rile up the green investors
2. profit!
3. pack ur bags and run!

...profit != last action ???

not if u have flee to a country with no extradition treaty
 

JS80

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lol hmm, billion dollars overnight by selling to Ford/GM or $10 million X prize? ok.
 

Bignate603

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Originally posted by: episodic
They could do all of this and more if they wanted too

You honestly believe automakers don't want increase their fuel economy? Think about it, all the US automakers are doing terribly, if any of them made a car that got mileage like that they would sell as many as they could make, it would be a cash cow.

Just because you think they SHOULD make cars doesn't change the laws of thermodynamics or the realities of engineering. If you think it's possible then you can make it, I'd buy one.
 

KillerCharlie

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Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: episodic
They could do all of this and more if they wanted too

You honestly believe automakers don't want increase their fuel economy? Think about it, all the US automakers are doing terribly, if any of them made a car that got mileage like that they would sell as many as they could make, it would be a cash cow.

Just because you think they SHOULD make cars doesn't change the laws of thermodynamics or the realities of engineering. If you think it's possible then you can make it, I'd buy one.

Shhh, don't feed the dumba... err trolls or whatever they call them these days.
 
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