"engineering is a real major"

[Pandaren]

You can't bullsh*t engineering exams or projects. If you don't come up with the right solution or at least the right path to a solution, you don't get credit. If your project doesn't work, you don't get credit. One of my engineering professors put it to my class this way: "the immediate costs of replacing defective hardware are astronomical - you can't just issue patches willy nilly like those CS people" (and I was one of those CS people!)

Political Science & Humanities folks can bullsh*t a lot since most of it seems to be subjective. At the undergraduate level it seems like most people in humanities fields do a lot less work than people in engineering simply because they can get away with not doing all the reading, and because papers don't require the painstaking debugging that software and hardware requires.

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: Pandaren

Political Science & Humanities folks can bullsh*t a lot since most of it seems to be subjective. At the undergraduate level it seems like most people in humanities fields do a lot less work than people in engineering simply because they can get away with not doing all the reading, and because papers don't require the painstaking debugging that software and hardware requires.

exactly.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
engineering students are usually very arrogant

I don't think I am. I mean, English majors can write stuff that I will never be able to write. Art majors can create stuff I probably never could. Some majors are just flat out pointless though.

Which ones are pointless?

In order to not offend anybody I would not point them out. It's only my opinion anyway. I didn't mean to write pointless, maybe just easy.

If you find everything but engineering to be a cakewalk, why would anyone else be offended by mentioning those areas of study? Are you just in engineering for the challenge since you have mastered everything else?

Seriously, post a couple. I bet you're just an elitist prick.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Pandaren
You can't bullsh*t engineering exams or projects. If you don't come up with the right solution or at least the right path to a solution, you don't get credit. If your project doesn't work, you don't get credit. One of my engineering professors put it to my class this way: "the immediate costs of replacing defective hardware are astronomical - you can't just issue patches willy nilly like those CS people" (and I was one of those CS people!)

Political Science & Humanities folks can bullsh*t a lot since most of it seems to be subjective. At the undergraduate level it seems like most people in humanities fields do a lot less work than people in engineering simply because they can get away with not doing all the reading, and because papers don't require the painstaking debugging that software and hardware requires.

Much of political science and humanities is based on previous work. If you don't know that you're screwed. Maybe they're just smarter than you. :Q

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: Bishop
I'm gonna have to disagree with you. Try taking Biochemistry-Molecular and Cellular Biology path and repeat your statement. Technical disciplines may be hard, but they aren't the only ones.

ATP this, meiosis that, RNA here and there... seems pretty easy to me

<- EE major

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
engineering students are usually very arrogant

I don't think I am. I mean, English majors can write stuff that I will never be able to write. Art majors can create stuff I probably never could. Some majors are just flat out pointless though.

Which ones are pointless?

Maybe the major itself is not pointless, but certain combinations of student and major are kinda pointless. For example, what is the point of a native Chinese speaker to major in Chinese language?

Oh... and Computer Science? Come on... that's a WIMP'S major!

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: Pandaren

Political Science &amp; Humanities folks can bullsh*t a lot since most of it seems to be subjective. At the undergraduate level it seems like most people in humanities fields do a lot less work than people in engineering simply because they can get away with not doing all the reading, and because papers don't require the painstaking debugging that software and hardware requires.

exactly.

You two obviously havent taken any upper divison Poli Sci classes. You can only bullsh!t up to a point. Then there is econ, which you cant bullsh!t at all, well unless you want to fail.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
engineering students are usually very arrogant

I don't think I am. I mean, English majors can write stuff that I will never be able to write. Art majors can create stuff I probably never could. Some majors are just flat out pointless though.

Which ones are pointless?

Maybe the major itself is not pointless, but certain combinations of student and major are kinda pointless. For example, what is the point of a native Chinese speaker to major in Chinese language?

Same as an English speaker majoring in English? :Q

It's not like there's nothing to learn about languages beyond the basics that most people know.

Oh... and Computer Science? Come on... that's a WIMP'S major!

I'm no expert, but I do imagine that certain majors are easier than others -- that's inevitable, isn't it? I'd be amazed if on a scale of 0-100 for difficulty, EVERY major was an exact 50.

But I think it's kinda assholey to act superior just because your major is harder. Follow whatever truly interests you, and don't diss other people for doing the same. The end goal is to enjoy life, isn't it?

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
engineering students are usually very arrogant

I don't think I am. I mean, English majors can write stuff that I will never be able to write. Art majors can create stuff I probably never could. Some majors are just flat out pointless though.

Which ones are pointless?

In order to not offend anybody I would not point them out. It's only my opinion anyway. I didn't mean to write pointless, maybe just easy.

If you find everything but engineering to be a cakewalk, why would anyone else be offended by mentioning those areas of study? Are you just in engineering for the challenge since you have mastered everything else?

Seriously, post a couple. I bet you're just an elitist prick.

Don't put words in my mouth, i never said everything but engineering is a cakewalk. Pre-professional programs (premed, prepharm, etc etc) are pretty hard. Math, Physics, Chemistry, CS are all hard majors.

Can you put a business grad with no prior engineering experience in an engineering position? Most likely not. Can liberal arts majors do engineering work (or math, physics, chemistry work for that matter), NO. With an engineering degree you're much more capable of doing many jobs even outside of engineering because engineers SOLVE PROBLEMS.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Don't get me wrong, engineering would be a lot easier if math were an exact science and all. But that doesn't mean other majors are pointless or too easy to be worth while.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
engineering students are usually very arrogant

I don't think I am. I mean, English majors can write stuff that I will never be able to write. Art majors can create stuff I probably never could. Some majors are just flat out pointless though.

Which ones are pointless?

In order to not offend anybody I would not point them out. It's only my opinion anyway. I didn't mean to write pointless, maybe just easy.

If you find everything but engineering to be a cakewalk, why would anyone else be offended by mentioning those areas of study? Are you just in engineering for the challenge since you have mastered everything else?

Seriously, post a couple. I bet you're just an elitist prick.

Don't put words in my mouth, i never said everything but engineering is a cakewalk. Pre-professional programs (premed, prepharm, etc etc) are pretty hard. Math, Physics, Chemistry, CS are all hard majors.

Can you put a business grad with no prior engineering experience in an engineering position? Most likely not. Can liberal arts majors do engineering work (or math, physics, chemistry work for that matter), NO. With an engineering degree you're much more capable of doing many jobs even outside of engineering because engineers SOLVE PROBLEMS.

So are business majors. Sociologists understand a hell of a lot more about groups of people than engineers typically do. Psychologists are obvious choices to have around when you need to understand something about people. Political science majors might understand a little bit more about why politicians do what they do. Some of the most highly sought majors when computers were in their infancy? Philosophy majors.

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Don't get me wrong, engineering would be a lot easier if math were an exact science and all. But that doesn't mean other majors are pointless or too easy to be worth while.

you don't know much about engineering after all, do you?

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: Pandaren

Political Science &amp; Humanities folks can bullsh*t a lot since most of it seems to be subjective. At the undergraduate level it seems like most people in humanities fields do a lot less work than people in engineering simply because they can get away with not doing all the reading, and because papers don't require the painstaking debugging that software and hardware requires.

exactly.

You two obviously havent taken any upper divison Poli Sci classes. You can only bullsh!t up to a point. Then there is econ, which you cant bullsh!t at all, well unless you want to fail.

Economics makes me go

 

[Imdmn04]

Liberal arts majors are not useless, but they are usually easier than engineering classes.
I have taken a geography 400 level class as an elective as a freshman and I aced that class, if I was to take a senior level CS class I woulda been fvcked.

Nevertheless, liberal arts are not useless, acutally it is quite useful, but please don't be offended when engineers say that it is easier, they are not disrespecting your major, they are just stating a fact. Easy majors doesn't have to be useless.

I have always sensed this inferiority complexion that liberal arts majors tend to have, thus they are always so defensive when engineering majors says their classes are easier.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Don't get me wrong, engineering would be a lot easier if math were an exact science and all. But that doesn't mean other majors are pointless or too easy to be worth while.

you don't know much about engineering after all, do you?

Care to explain? What part of my statement is incorrect or assuming too much?

 

[alphatarget1]

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Don't get me wrong, engineering would be a lot easier if math were an exact science and all. But that doesn't mean other majors are pointless or too easy to be worth while.

you don't know much about engineering after all, do you?

Care to explain? What part of my statement is incorrect or assuming too much?

engineering is not just math.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Don't get me wrong, engineering would be a lot easier if math were an exact science and all. But that doesn't mean other majors are pointless or too easy to be worth while.

you don't know much about engineering after all, do you?

Care to explain? What part of my statement is incorrect or assuming too much?

engineering is not just math.

Everything boils down to math.

My point was that Engineering may be hard for some people, but so are other majors. And some of them are even interesting.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
Same as an English speaker majoring in English? :Q

It's not like there's nothing to learn about languages beyond the basics that most people know.

I never understood that either... I just thought that if a person wanted to study English (to become better writers.. or something...), there must be a better choice than to pay the $$$ for a 4 year university. Now if they do English in combination with something else.. then maybe it'll become interesting.

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: Imdmn04
Liberal arts majors are not useless, but they are usually easier than engineering classes.
I have taken a geography 400 level class as an elective as a freshman and I aced that class, if I was to take a senior level CS class I woulda been fvcked.

Nevertheless, liberal arts are not useless, acutally it is quite useful, but please don't be offended when engineers say that it is easier, they are not disrespecting your major, they are just stating a fact. Easy majors doesn't have to be useless.

I have always sensed this inferiority complexion that liberal arts majors tend to have, thus they are always so defensive when engineering majors says their classes are easier.

lol... I took a senior level philosophy class my 2nd semester freshman year. Philosophy of Physics.... heh... easiest A I ever got.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Wow. Just wow. Try being a Philosophy Major and reading through any of our stuff. Easy my ass.

*took a littl bit of offense to that*

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: Jehovah
Wow. Just wow. Try being a Philosophy Major and reading through any of our stuff. Easy my ass.

*took a littl bit of offense to that*

Philosophy of Physics... come on... what can you expect from such a class. I just needed it to complete my humanity requirements. The philosophy of math was a little harder since it used notation I never saw before and expected you to understand it. (like the upside down A to mean 'for all' and the backwards E to mean 'there exists').

 

[BlamoHammer]

I'll start laughing when all of the engineering majors graduate with their impressive technical knowledge and then they are told what to do by a business major who is their boss.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: BlamoHammer
I'll start laughing when all of the engineering majors graduate with their impressive technical knowledge and then they are told what to do by a business major who is their boss.

usually the boss that tells the engineering majors what to do is or was an engineer

 

[Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by: TuxDave

Originally posted by: Jehovah
Wow. Just wow. Try being a Philosophy Major and reading through any of our stuff. Easy my ass.

*took a littl bit of offense to that*

Philosophy of Physics... come on... what can you expect from such a class. I just needed it to complete my humanity requirements. The philosophy of math was a little harder since it used notation I never saw before and expected you to understand it. (like the upside down A to mean 'for all' and the backwards E to mean 'there exists').

Meh - I didn't say Philosophy of Physics - I mean, a true, non-watered-down-for-the-idiot-lowerclassman-kick-you-in-the-balls 300 level philosophy class. Just pure philosophy. Like metaphysics, for instance.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Jehovah
Wow. Just wow. Try being a Philosophy Major and reading through any of our stuff. Easy my ass.

*took a littl bit of offense to that*

I think it would be easier for most people than engineering would...but that doesn't mean that philsophy is useless or anything.

It seems like most engineers like to brag about their programs.