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We have a friend who is 35 and has relatively wealthy parents. She went to a couple years of college, got an associates in event planning, and has otherwise spent the better part of 20 years mooching off her parents who buy her cars and pay her bills. She floats from being a waitress to a sales person and back. What's her problem?
She wants what she can't have. She wants a 6' 4" supermodel looking guy who makes 200k/yr so she can be a stay at home mom. She skipped looking for the avg joe who would work his way up because she wasn't willing to do the same. Now her looks have faded and she won't be anybody's trophy wife (more like consolation prize) because she brings nothing to the table.
Even now, she is going out to dinner 2-3 times a week and going on vacation up to the north shore. Meanwhile, I work 10-11hrs/day, commute another hour, but still have managed to do something with my life.
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There is an article floating around that debunks the stem shortage myth. There are far more stem degree holders than there will ever be stem jobs. But yet we want to import stem labor up drive down stem wages. Yay. Go GOP.
I knew several stem degree holders. They all work in sales. Not consumer level retail but sales none the less.
wut?No wonder poverty wage physical labor of a child impresses you!
lololshe is entitled to a job above minimum wage
Oh.her loser parents
Damn this is repetitive...lolol.who took school seriously
Guess you missed that part.let us know when you want to have an adult conversation
Reported.Too stupid to even realize that I was making fun of you. Sigh...
dafuq? ...you deserved better without hard work. Right?Your last paragraph is pretty similar to me. I did a lot of hard work growing up, so now most things don't seem that bad. For me, reality set in when I got my first degree and I started working but had no time or money to really do anything.
What's STEM?The other part of the STEM myth is that STEM pays. For the amount of effort and education it really isn't that lucrative a paycheque.
What's STEM?
There is an article floating around that debunks the stem shortage myth. There are far more stem degree holders than there will ever be stem jobs. But yet we want to import stem labor up drive down stem wages. Yay. Go GOP.
I knew several stem degree holders. They all work in sales. Not consumer level retail but sales none the less.
ThanksSorry - and to think I usually live by a strict no-acronyms rule. That's Science, Technology, Engineering & Math degrees.
Or sucking to many in for cheap $$? hs1bc (?)Blasphemy... 4:3 video in the age of HD and widescreen.
I've seen at least one article discussing the STEM shortage myth. And one of my "state's" engineering organizations also has a piece about a lot of engineering students not working in engineering or being underemployed.
I have two civil engineering degrees and no one's knocking on my door -- I have a related job, but no one's soliciting me on job sites, and I had trouble getting my first job a few years back. Oh, and if you think I graduated at the bottom, my grad school average in a top 5 school in the country was a solid 3.97/4.00.
My take is that we're plain pumping out too many university graduates, regardless of their field of study.
I'm a millennial with a real job who still lives at home. Why? Housing costs. Been spending the last few years squirrelling away as much cash as possible for a down payment. Banks aren't giving away the big mortgages like they used to. Been shopping around. Saw a new condo project I really liked that I could afford. About $250k for 818sq ft. Really about as good as I'm going to get, that's not in the ghetto. Not due to be finished until 2016. Keeping my ears open for good deals elsewhere. I'm also a little concerned about the resale value of apartment condos, given how overheated the Toronto market is. So it's playing the waiting game. For the record, a base, base condo is $200k out here. And it's small. Bedroom, living room, half kitchen if you're lucky. Bachelor apartments more often than not.
The other option is renting, but there's currently a shortage of rental units here. High prices. $1000/mo doesn't even guarantee you a clean and safe building any more, let alone in a clean and safe neighbourhood. So I've decided a long term investment is wiser. Believe me, my parents drive me nuts so I don't want to be there any longer. But it's all a big waiting game given how unstable the real estate market is getting in the Greater Toronto Area.
After I graduated university, I was in a bit of a rough spot. Right when the recession was peaking. Was out of work for a couple months. Got a job cleaning cars. 10.5 hour days for minimum wage. Hated it with a passion. Went back to school for more training. Was going 7 days a week at one point. Pulling 16 hour days every weekend trying to get job experience by volunteering. Did that for 2 years. Then got the job at the TV station. Right now I'm currently on day 7 of working straight due to some scheduling issues.
At home, I basically live like I'm on my own. Do my own cooking, cleaning, laundry, pay for the internet, TV, and telephone, my car, food. In lieu of rent (this was at my parents' insistence), I have a set minimum amount that I put in my house account every month. Not out partying or having a good time. Basically, every penny I don't spend goes to a down payment. So far got about $70k saved. Though some of that is for furniture. Wanted a small townhouse but those are now pushing $300k. Just gotta keep working those balls off.
wow. Guess I was lucky to barely avoid the .com crash AND the housing crash
Can't really argue with that.
There is an article floating around that debunks the stem shortage myth. There are far more stem degree holders than there will ever be stem jobs. But yet we want to import stem labor up drive down stem wages. Yay. Go GOP.
I'm a millennial with a real job who still lives at home. Why? Housing costs. Been spending the last few years squirrelling away as much cash as possible for a down payment. Banks aren't giving away the big mortgages like they used to. Been shopping around. Saw a new condo project I really liked that I could afford. About $250k for 818sq ft. Really about as good as I'm going to get, that's not in the ghetto. Not due to be finished until 2016. Keeping my ears open for good deals elsewhere. I'm also a little concerned about the resale value of apartment condos, given how overheated the Toronto market is. So it's playing the waiting game. For the record, a base, base condo is $200k out here. And it's small. Bedroom, living room, half kitchen if you're lucky. Bachelor apartments more often than not.
The other option is renting, but there's currently a shortage of rental units here. High prices. $1000/mo doesn't even guarantee you a clean and safe building any more, let alone in a clean and safe neighbourhood. So I've decided a long term investment is wiser. Believe me, my parents drive me nuts so I don't want to be there any longer. But it's all a big waiting game given how unstable the real estate market is getting in the Greater Toronto Area.
After I graduated university, I was in a bit of a rough spot. Right when the recession was peaking. Was out of work for a couple months. Got a job cleaning cars. 10.5 hour days for minimum wage. Hated it with a passion. Went back to school for more training. Was going 7 days a week at one point. Pulling 16 hour days every weekend trying to get job experience by volunteering. Did that for 2 years. Then got the job at the TV station. Right now I'm currently on day 7 of working straight due to some scheduling issues.
At home, I basically live like I'm on my own. Do my own cooking, cleaning, laundry, pay for the internet, TV, and telephone, my car, food. In lieu of rent (this was at my parents' insistence), I have a set minimum amount that I put in my house account every month. Not out partying or having a good time. Basically, every penny I don't spend goes to a down payment. So far got about $70k saved. Though some of that is for furniture. Wanted a small townhouse but those are now pushing $300k. Just gotta keep working those balls off.
dafuq? ...you deserved better without hard work. Right?
Didn't we talk about this already? There is a widely circulated article that only looks at current wage pressures to make the determination and, if its the same study I am thinking of, does not make any statement that 'there are far more stem degree holders than there will ever be stem jobs'. The study does nothing to project for future growth. Here is a more comprehensive study that shows that we will have a shortage:
https://cew.georgetown.edu/recovery2020
Not sure what the GOP has to do with this but Georgetown is hardly a GOP leaning institution
For all the people saying, "If only he/she did not have a useless degree..."
I've got news for you...if all of the liberal arts graduates majored in "useful fields" we would have...soup-prise!...a large oversupply of people with college degrees in "useful fields".
In other words, tripling the number of engineers (or scientists, or mathematicians, etc.) produced will not magically triple the number of jobs for engineers (etc.) at currently prevailing wage rates. It would either drive down wages for people in those "useful fields" or result in unemployed/underemployed surplus college graduates with degrees in "useful fields".
LOL interests = work life balance. spoken like a true millennial.
Yeah, no. People have been saying this exact same shit for the last 3000 years. The cries of "todays youth are lazy" have been applied to every single generation of youth since the beginings of history.Came across this today posted somewhere. Apparently it was penned in 1959 by a judge. Ironically, it's probably more applicable today then it was back then.
Depends what her definition is. I am a millennial and my balance stops at 50hrs a week. I've found once I hit more than that, basic things like going to the gym, cleaning my house, doing yard work etc, tend to stop getting done. Instead of enjoying a peaceful weekend at home, I spent majority of the time playing catch up on shit I was too tired to do during the week.
Now if her balance is at a mere 40hours... then yeah that's kind of lazy, although not everybody has jobs that require OT. I think a lot of the time work productivity starts to go down.