EPoX "EP-9NPA+Ultra" NVIDIA nForce4 ULTRA Chipset Motherboard

[SPQQKY]

Originally posted by: goku2100

Originally posted by: enwar3
well with ppl like goku defending dfi im tempted to go epox =)

I defended DFI I've got no problems with DFI because I haven't heard complaints about DFI like I have about PC Chips and Epox.

Then you're the only one. I've heard more headaches and had more of my own from DFI than any other board I can remember.

Now, if you guys want to keep throwing poop at each other over laptops, please start a different thread, unless you would like me to notify a mod.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: goku2100
.......You still can't explain why you quote the part where I said "dell 1.7GHZ P4 and that being the same system as the Nforce 2 system......

Look all I know is that 1. I've used a few epox based systems and they were very unreliable and 2. I've heard many many complaints from people about their epox based systems and how they're crap. I find it funny that you defend EPOX like as if they're PC Power and cooling or some other high end brand :roll:

In response to the first comment, obviously your reading comprehension skills are pretty weak...you posted in the general forum word for word:

When ever I start up my computer it says "disk boot error" and when I hit the reset button on the front, it boots up normally. While I'm able to use the computer perfectly fine, I want to find out a way I can make it so that the computer doesn't do this every time I start up. It's an ABIT nforce 2 motherboard, the HDD runs fine but I'm still not sure why it does this every time I boot the machine.

Then when called on it in this forum you make up some tall tale about it being a Vaio and a Dell...obviously you are either in denial, suffer from short term memory loss like in memento, or just want to see more knowledgable than you actually are...

As to your second point so basically you are going off hersay when you slam epox, have no first hand experience with this board and have none with others you recommend....gotta love the net when someone with zero credibility chimes in as if they have a clue.

I own a 9NPA+ Ultra and while it isn't perfect it isn't nearly as bad as you make it out to be, something that is confirmed by the Editors choice it recieved from Anand and the many other posts by owners here and elsewhere...DFI makes a great board but if you haven't heard of people with problems and or hardware pickyness then you must have your head buried in the sand or stuck up your.....

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: goku2100
.......You still can't explain why you quote the part where I said "dell 1.7GHZ P4 and that being the same system as the Nforce 2 system......

Look all I know is that 1. I've used a few epox based systems and they were very unreliable and 2. I've heard many many complaints from people about their epox based systems and how they're crap. I find it funny that you defend EPOX like as if they're PC Power and cooling or some other high end brand :roll:

In response to the first comment, obviously your reading comprehension skills are pretty weak...you posted in the general forum word for word:

When ever I start up my computer it says "disk boot error" and when I hit the reset button on the front, it boots up normally. While I'm able to use the computer perfectly fine, I want to find out a way I can make it so that the computer doesn't do this every time I start up. It's an ABIT nforce 2 motherboard, the HDD runs fine but I'm still not sure why it does this every time I boot the machine.

Then when called on it in this forum you make up some tall tale about it being a Vaio and a Dell...obviously you are either in denial, suffer from short term memory loss like in memento, or just want to see more knowledgable than you actually are...

As to your second point so basically you are going off hersay when you slam epox, have no first hand experience with this board and have none with others you recommend....gotta love the net when someone with zero credibility chimes in as if they have a clue.

I own a 9NPA+ Ultra and while it isn't perfect it isn't nearly as bad as you make it out to be, something that is confirmed by the Editors choice it recieved from Anand and the many other posts by owners here and elsewhere...DFI makes a great board but if you haven't heard of people with problems and or hardware pickyness then you must have your head buried in the sand or stuck up your.....

Look I would continue this "discussion" but I'm not able to because a moderator told me to not do so. I will respond to this though "Then when called on it in this forum you make up some tall tale about it being a Vaio and a Dell..."
Look believe what you want, it's true that it happens to my friends desktop (which is an ABIT Nforce 2), a dell desktop (Dimension 8200, 1.7GHZ P4) and a sony desktop (P4 1.5GHZ 423). If you REALLY don't believe me and want to show to all of anandtech what you getting pwned looks like (except the nik and desktop thread which may never be beat) then by all means "ask me to prove this". This will either be my last post in this thread (if you don't bother to ask) or my second to last post in this thread (If you ask, then I will post pics proving you wrong).

ATOT moderators response:
goku2100,

In this thread, you posted:

quote:
All I gotta say is that EPOX sucks!

I think that says about everything you have to say, and you can stop posting in the thread, now. More flaming is just pissing off others and ruining everyone else's enjoyment of the discussion.

AnandTech Moderator

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: goku2100

ATOT moderators response:
goku2100,

In this thread, you posted:

quote:
All I gotta say is that EPOX sucks!

I think that says about everything you have to say, and you can stop posting in the thread, now. More flaming is just pissing off others and ruining everyone else's enjoyment of the discussion.

AnandTech Moderator

Don't the mods get annoyed when you quote them without their permission first especially if sent through PM...

The mod had a point, you made your totally unsubstantiated claim about Epox in general and in a thread dealing specifically with the 9NPA+ Ultra, a board you have no first hand experience with and that should have been that...

As I mentioned I own the board, considered others as well but went this route and so far this thread has been helpful...however seeing a post like yours with no credibility behind it that is just slamming the brand doesn't help matters. And the fact that you keep changing your story about your previous post is somewhat telling...so now you admit you also had a problem with an Nforce 2 based system where before you said it was only a Vaio and a Dell...please you can't even keep your own story straight.

 

[imported_goku]

Originally posted by: bozack
And the fact that you keep changing your story about your previous post is somewhat telling...so now you admit you also had a problem with an Nforce 2 based system where before you said it was only a Vaio and a Dell...please you can't even keep your own story straight.

Originally posted by: goku2100
The problem where it says "disk boot error" occurs on a P4 1.7GHZ Dell desktop, sisters Sony Vaio Desktop and my friends desktop, this error is solved by softbooting the machine and I've yet to find out a reason WHY it does this and how to fix it.

I never said I didn't have a problem with a P4 1.7GHZ dell, and a vaio, I said my sister had a problem with her sony vaio system (which is a problem for me) and my friend which has an Nforce 2 based system is also having the problem. The dell 1.7GHZ P4 in question is not mine, it's one I have at work which suffers the issue. The answer is right smack dab in front of you, you've just decided to ignore the truth and believe ranting is better, defending epox like the holy grail.

 

[SPQQKY]

You don't quit, do you? Even after a mod told you to stop, you insist on going on about something other than the Epox 9NPA+Ultra.
You were told not to even post in this thread anymore, I have a PM from the mod stating he told you not to post here anymore. One more time and I will ask him to ban you from the forums entirely.
bozack, quit giving him fuel!

 

[enwar3]

if ur all done flaming each other...

can someone gimme a ram that will oc well with this board? i was thinking the ocz plat. EL rev. 2, but does anyone have better ideas?

 

[SPQQKY]

Well, I could tell you to get some BH-5, but that is harder to come by these days. Best TCCD based RAM I have seen used with this board is the Corsair XMS pc3200XL. Corsair just seems to run really well on this board. The OCZ may run well with it, don't know and haven't seen many posts about results with the combo.

 

[imported_Husky55]

Corsair or Patriot!!!


:thumbsup:

 

[SPQQKY]

Great new BIOS for the board.

BIOS FILE NAME:
9NPA5804.BIN

BIOS FILE DATE:
08/04/2005

Workaround :
1.Added CPU voltage adjust support -0.1.
2.Disable WPT Support.
3.Fix 939 Athlon 64 E6 3800 CPU(ADA3800DAA4BP)hang at post if single side Dimm*4 exists.
4.show "Sempron 64-bit CPU" string.
5.Added "off" option for "CPU Voltage" item.
6.Disabled adjust CPU voltage offset function.

cpu voltage options are great.

-0.025
-0.05
-0.075
-0.1
Off

This will be helpful to those Venice owners having a hissy over the vcore defaulting to 1.45 and it is a good stable OCer.
I have my Winny running 280 x 9 with the -0.025 vcore option which is reading 1.41v and 1.4 with DMM.

 

[mdubrow]

SPQQKY, thanks for the heads up. I don't see it listed on Epox's site (USA or Global/English); the latest I see is the 8/1 BIOS. If I may ask, where did you download it from?

Thanks!

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: SPQQKY
Great new BIOS for the board.

BIOS FILE NAME:
9NPA5804.BIN

BIOS FILE DATE:
08/04/2005

Workaround :
1.Added CPU voltage adjust support -0.1.
2.Disable WPT Support.
3.Fix 939 Athlon 64 E6 3800 CPU(ADA3800DAA4BP)hang at post if single side Dimm*4 exists.
4.show "Sempron 64-bit CPU" string.
5.Added "off" option for "CPU Voltage" item.
6.Disabled adjust CPU voltage offset function.

cpu voltage options are great.

-0.025
-0.05
-0.075
-0.1
Off

This will be helpful to those Venice owners having a hissy over the vcore defaulting to 1.45 and it is a good stable OCer.
I have my Winny running 280 x 9 with the -0.025 vcore option which is reading 1.41v and 1.4 with DMM.

Just checked the global site and didn't see this bios? is this a modded bios or one that they are going to release?...

EDIT: Nevermind, just used the magic bios utility and it came right up...flashed within windows, restarted...reset config settings and bam right into windows...much better than the other dud they released...

Thanks for the heads up, guess they realized the last one had some issues.

 

[SPQQKY]

Use MagicFlash to obtain the BIOS. If you don't like flashing from Windows (I know I don't), the MagicFlash utility will save the .bin directly to your main drive.
I just copied the new BIOS to a floppy and used the Alt+F2 method. Works like a charm and I am liking the new BIOS. So far no issues and a good stable OCer.

 

[bozack]

yeah right after I tried the magic flash and sure enough it came up...I just flashed from within windows as whatever, if it dies it dies...went through without a hitch and the new bios seems much nicer, system temps are a bit cooler also. No hang at startup like with the last bios though...overall I am impressed.

 

[mdubrow]

Guess I'll have to install MagicFlash now.... I didn't know you that MF let's you save the BIOS to disk so you can install from DOS/Floppy instead of within Windows. Thanks for the tip!

 

[imported_Husky55]

I can not find it at the epox.tw site. Except for Magic Flash, is there anyway to find and download the latest bios?

 

[mdubrow]

Look's like they posted it on the global site this morning: Epox 9NPA+ Ultra BIOS's. Now I don't need to install MagicFlash! Woo hoo!

 

[SPQQKY]

I only use MagicFlash to download the BIOS, I never flash within Windows.

 

[imported_Husky55]

Originally posted by: mdubrow
Look's like they posted it on the global site this morning: Epox 9NPA+ Ultra BIOS's. Now I don't need to install MagicFlash! Woo hoo!

thanks,

:thumbsup:

 

[MadScientist]

The new bios is much better than the older (by only a few days) bios. My old Kingston HyperX memory runs fine at the 1T Mem Timing with this version. Epox must have realized very quickly that the 05.07.28 version was a POS.

 

[funks]

It's weird that the 9NPA+ULTRA get's a bunch of BIOS upgrades that add's features - while the 9NPA+SLI does not.

I upgraded from the 9NPA+ULTRA -> 9NPA+SLI. The EPOX SLI is pretty stable, no lockups yet..

Some notes: The 9NPA+ULTRA IDE1 (PATA) is blocked when installing a 7800GTX, the SLI version doesn't have this problem. The only thing I don't like the 9NPA+SLI is the location of the power plug.

 

[Backdraft]

Alright I'm a first time builder and I just got this board. Everything went fine, except I'm having trouble with the integrated ethernet feature. Whenever I'm trying to set up the LAN connection (Control Panel -> Network Connections) using New Hardware Wizard, I can't seem to get the ethernet hardware to show. Anyone have any ideas what is going on? Note: I am on a router.

Thanks a bunch.

 

[Backdraft]

Nevermind, got it working, just a matter of installing drivers first. =)

 

[SPQQKY]

Those usually help.

 

[MrMajestyk]

Can anyone confirm the XP-120 is Ok with this board.