Eric Cantor: no disaster relief for Irene w/o budget cuts

Thump553

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Eric Cantor is yet again playing the role of a heartless bean counter. In advance of landfall, he has already vowed to fight any disaster relief arising from Hurricane Irene unless equal spending cuts are made elsewhere.

My commentary: what a f*cking tool. Those who voted for the teaparty must someday realize the damage they are causing to the USA as Cantor strives to roll us back to the days of robber barons, no labor laws and no safety laws or safety net.

Link:

http://www.businessinsider.com/eric...ill-have-to-be-offset-by-spending-cuts-2011-8
 

Jhhnn

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Repubs' new motto- Never, ever, pass up a hostage taking opportunity in pursuit of hard money.
 

Double Trouble

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Eric Cantor is yet again playing the role of a heartless bean counter. In advance of landfall, he has already vowed to fight any disaster relief arising from Hurricane Irene unless equal spending cuts are made elsewhere.

My commentary: what a f*cking tool. Those who voted for the teaparty must someday realize the damage they are causing to the USA as Cantor strives to roll us back to the days of robber barons, no labor laws and no safety laws or safety net.

Link:

http://www.businessinsider.com/eric...ill-have-to-be-offset-by-spending-cuts-2011-8

Wait, so he's the bad guy because he's being fiscally responsible and saying "hey, that's great if you want to help people, but we have to show where that money is coming from -- something else needs to be cut because we don't have more money". It might not be a politically popular thing to say, but money doesn't magically fall from the sky, it has to come from somewhere.
 

Jhhnn

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Wait, so he's the bad guy because he's being fiscally responsible and saying "hey, that's great if you want to help people, but we have to show where that money is coming from -- something else needs to be cut because we don't have more money". It might not be a politically popular thing to say, but money doesn't magically fall from the sky, it has to come from somewhere.

Well, he didn't suggest a tax surcharge on America's wealthiest to pay for it, either, which is another way of looking at fiscal responsibility.

It's not like they're using the lowest tax rates among first world rich to create jobs, is it?
 

ProfJohn

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Talk about a bullshit story...

"But, as you know, Eric has consistently said that additional funds for federal disaster relief ought to be offset with spending cuts."


Someone teach these guys the meaning of "ought."
 

trenchfoot

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Talk about a bullshit story...

"But, as you know, Eric has consistently said that additional funds for federal disaster relief ought to be offset with spending cuts."


Someone teach these guys the meaning of "ought."

 

Thump553

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PJ, if you are going to quibble over semantics look at the first paragraph you skipped over:

"A spokesperson for House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) said that if there is any damage caused by Hurricane Irene requiring federal disaster funding, the money would have to be balanced out by spending cuts elsewhere in government."

"Would have" is mandatory and means shall. Nice spin on claiming the story is bullshit based upon Cantor's backpedaling once he lit off a firestorm of outrage.

Face it, the teabag end of the GOP is set to take the American people hostage once again.
 

ProfJohn

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PJ, if you are going to quibble over semantics look at the first paragraph you skipped over:

"A spokesperson for House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) said that if there is any damage caused by Hurricane Irene requiring federal disaster funding, the money would have to be balanced out by spending cuts elsewhere in government."

"Would have" is mandatory and means shall. Nice spin on claiming the story is bullshit based upon Cantor's backpedaling once he lit off a firestorm of outrage.

Face it, the teabag end of the GOP is set to take the American people hostage once again.
Look at the actual quotes from the spokesperson.
"But, as you know, Eric has consistently said that additional funds for federal disaster relief ought to be offset with spending cuts."


There is no WOULD in that statement.

And the statement didn't even come from Cantor himself but a spokesperson.

You make it seem definitive and that isn't the case.
 

Jhhnn

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Cantor massages the erroneous zones of his tea party base & retains plausible deniability at the same time. chums the water to see what shows up. runs it up the flagpole to see who'll salute.

Standard Sleaze.

At least he won't have to come out with the "not meant to be a factual statement" back pedaling of John Kyl...
 

BarneyFife

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Good. I hope he does pull that stunt so all those shameful racist losers who voted for the likes of him can suffer.
 

Lemon law

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Eric Cantor of Virgina wants to screw up Federal Aid for own his state regarding Irene. With Virgina likely to be a very hard hit State

Thus killing his re-election chances in 2012.

Good Night Eric, good night Eric, I will see you in my dreams.
 

Double Trouble

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Well, he didn't suggest a tax surcharge on America's wealthiest to pay for it, either, which is another way of looking at fiscal responsibility.

It's not like they're using the lowest tax rates among first world rich to create jobs, is it?

He didn't suggest anything about how to pay for it, only that if federal money would need to be spent, it would have to be paid for somehow. That seems completely logical to me, it makes perfect sense.

It's a dangerous thing to say politically, because everyone expects there to unlimited money available to spend without wanting to pay for it, but basic logic dictates that if you spend more money you need to identify where that money is coming from, decide what you want to cut to pay for the expenditure.

All political hackery aside, isn't that just common sense?
 

drebo

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Eric Cantor of Virgina wants to screw up Federal Aid for own his state regarding Irene. With Virgina likely to be a very hard hit State

Thus killing his re-election chances in 2012.

Good Night Eric, good night Eric, I will see you in my dreams.

IMO, we need more politicians who look out for the longterm future of the US, rather than their re-election chances.

God knows Obama and the rest of the neocon/liberal coallition in Congress and the Senate only have the latter on their minds.
 

drebo

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All political hackery aside, isn't that just common sense?

Not to a liberal. To a liberal, any chance for the government to hold the hands of and prostitute itself out to the unwashed masses is priceless and should not be wasted, regardless the cost.

I mean, it's not like we don't have charities who do that kind of thing already.
 

ptristan88

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Eric Cantor doesn't know how to manage situations with federal aid when ti comes to Irene. It seems alot of the middle to upper states will be the hardest hit. It's interesting that New york seems to be the target of the hardest hit. And they just got through legalizing homosexual marriages.

There is a site that deals with some of the potential victims at http://www.hurricaneireneforum.com. Maybe Cantor can take some advice and go with it.
 

Rainsford

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He didn't suggest anything about how to pay for it, only that if federal money would need to be spent, it would have to be paid for somehow. That seems completely logical to me, it makes perfect sense.

It's a dangerous thing to say politically, because everyone expects there to unlimited money available to spend without wanting to pay for it, but basic logic dictates that if you spend more money you need to identify where that money is coming from, decide what you want to cut to pay for the expenditure.

All political hackery aside, isn't that just common sense?

No, it's not. Actually figuring out how to pay for surprise spending like disaster relief and making sure the budget job gets done post-disaster is common sense and completely logical. Needlessly emphasizing the accounting points before the disaster has really had its full impact makes him look like a Disney villain.
 

Rainsford

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Not to a liberal. To a liberal, any chance for the government to hold the hands of and prostitute itself out to the unwashed masses is priceless and should not be wasted, regardless the cost.

I mean, it's not like we don't have charities who do that kind of thing already.

That's just stupid. We're not talking about buying big screen TVs for welfare recipients. Disaster relief seems like it's right up there as an obvious job for the government.
 

Craig234

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Not to a liberal. To a liberal, any chance for the government to hold the hands of and prostitute itself out to the unwashed masses is priceless and should not be wasted, regardless the cost.

95% of what's said here about liberals is wrong or lies, I can't remember the other 5%.
 

Craig234

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Eric Cantor is welcome to push spending cutting measures. He is welcome to suggest a bill with disaster aid and spending reductions.

What he's not welcome to do is to hold the aid for the disaster - or the debt ceiling - or unemployment - or funds for collecting nuclear material - hostage for his agenda.
 

trenchfoot

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Cantor preaching to the choir again....and again....and again....and again.

I wonder how many Tea Partiers in the regions where Irene is going to ravage will refuse federal aid if their homes are destroyed because Cantor demands that the money has to be found before the hurricane hits.
 

BoomerD

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Take the money for the emergency relief from foreign aid.

Take care of America and Americans first...if we're going to borrow money to give away, at least give it to the American people who are going to have to pay the taxes that will be used to repay the loans.
 
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