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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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No, he cannot.

Uniform Rules for Veterans and Retirees

The rules for wearing military uniforms as a retired military member or a discharged veteran are similar for all the services. There are certain rules for those seeking to wear the uniform for formal functions, national holidays, parades, military funerals and weddings and other military occasions. Only the Service Dress Uniform may be worn; no work, battle dress or PT uniforms are permitted to be worn at formal events. For non-formal events, veterans are allowed to wear other working uniforms as deemed appropriate for the occasion.



Grooming standards are obviously not enforced when a veteran wears any of the uniforms, but it is common courtesy to wear the uniform as if you were still in the military conforming to all the hair, facial hair, finger nail, and other grooming standards of the military branch you represent. All veterans and retired members will conform with the same standards of appearance, military customs, practices, and conduct in uniform prescribed for active-duty.
Make him.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Nice job pointing out the real problem.


I didn't imply that it was a more important problem. Just pointing out that he is or could be in trouble from the UCMJ by using his alleged retired status and wearing his uniform in an unauthorized way at a protest.

Sorry I didn't get your approval first.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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You obviously don't understand the implications if the Marines or Department of defence decide to do something about it. He is not beyond reach just because he is retired.
Really don’t give a shit it’s just amazing what you focus on at times.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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You obviously don't understand the implications if the Marines or Department of defence decide to do something about it. He is not beyond reach just because he is retired.
Maybe he thinks the problem of systemic racism and police brutally is significant enough to risk?

As others have said, what you choose to focus on is incredibly telling. Maybe you should step back and think about why you felt the need to point it out. I know that you won't actually reflect publicly here, and you'll probably continue to deflect, but for your own sake, at least do it in real life.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Really don’t give a shit it’s just amazing what you focus on at times.


If you don't give a sh** then why post?

I am also in amazement of your focus all the time.

Oh and by the way I don't post just for your approval.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Maybe he thinks the problem of systemic racism and police brutally is significant enough to risk?

As others have said, what you choose to focus on is incredibly telling. Maybe you should step back and think about why you felt the need to point it out. I know that you won't actually reflect publicly here, and you'll probably continue to deflect, but for your own sake, at least do it in real life.


That is a true statement. He chooses to risk it fine.

I felt the need to point it out as it is an illegal activity and apparently some people have no idea. Totally his choice to make.

To me it looks more like a stunt to get attention using his military service as a prop. It is cheesy and against the regulations he served under.

I guess it did work for him so far as he is getting lots of attention.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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yes very cheesy that he's doing something he 100% believes in. That according to you can result in him getting in a lot of trouble potentially. I applaud him, and the Corp isn't foolish enough to do anything negative to him. Imagine the backlash they'd rightfully get? A lot more people need to step up here. This guys a hero and should be praised.
 
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-- when participating in public speeches, interviews, picket lines, marches, rallies, or public demonstrations, except as authorized by competent authority.

So, it could absolutely be fine for him to wear it while protesting if authorized to. Now, obviously Turmp would have a problem, but seeing as he's incompetent what he thinks on the matter doesn't apply so he can eat shit.

yes very cheesy that he's doing something he 100% believes in. That according to you can result in him getting in a lot of trouble potentially. I applaud him, and the Corp isn't foolish enough to do anything negative to him. Imagine the backlash they'd rightfully get? A lot more people need to step up here. This guys a hero and should be praised.

Yeah punishing this guy is gonna work against them and hopefully they see that. Would be nice if they'd say they won't punish any veteran for doing so on this issue.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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So, it could absolutely be fine for him to wear it while protesting if authorized to. Now, obviously Turmp would have a problem, but seeing as he's incompetent what he thinks on the matter doesn't apply so he can eat shit.



Yeah punishing this guy is gonna work against them and hopefully they see that. Would be nice if they'd say they won't punish any veteran for doing so on this issue.


I don't think that he has permission. Possible, but highly improbable as I don't think the Military wants to be tied up in this protest.

Why did you reference an Air Force Document? I do think all services are the same in general.

When Wear is Prohibited

Wear of the uniform is prohibited for all retirees

-- in connection with the promotion of any political or commercial interests or when engaged in off-duty civilian employment.

-- Reserve technicians who are also members of the Ready Reserve may wear their uniform at their option while on duty in their civil service status.

-- when participating in public speeches, interviews, picket lines, marches, rallies, or public demonstrations, except as authorized by competent authority.

-- when wearing the uniform would bring discredit upon the Uniformed Services.

-- when specifically prohibited by DoD Regulations.

If there is any doubt about wearing the uniform to a function, the commander of the nearest installation should be contacted. Retirees in a foreign country should contact the American Embassy, the American Consulate, or a U. S. military authority.
 
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nickqt

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2015
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That is a true statement. He chooses to risk it fine.

I felt the need to point it out as it is an illegal activity and apparently some people have no idea. Totally his choice to make.

To me it looks more like a stunt to get attention using his military service as a prop. It is cheesy and against the regulations he served under.

I guess it did work for him so far as he is getting lots of attention.
Illegal? A military police officer can come and arrest him and put him in jail?

What a fucking disgrace to the First Amendment.

I'm guessing you're a fan.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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To me it looks more like a stunt to get attention using his military service as a prop. It is cheesy and against the regulations he served under.

I guess it did work for him so far as he is getting lots of attention.

LOL.

Yeah, this decorated purple heart recipient marine who is peacefully protesting systemic racism and brutality from a law enforcement system is a cheesy attention whore.

The projection is staggering. You can't recognize a bigger man than you when he's right in front of you.

Honestly, I feel bad for you. What a sad and weak little man. To attempt to tear down someone like this marine, particularly from someone who previously served. Yikes.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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LOL.

Yeah, this decorated purple heart recipient marine who is peacefully protesting systemic racism and brutality from a law enforcement system is a cheesy attention whore.

The projection is staggering. You can't recognize a bigger man than you when he's right in front of you.

Honestly, I feel bad for you. What a sad and weak little man. To attempt to tear down someone like this marine, particularly from someone who previously served. Yikes.
Oh shoot, now expect the furious “I didn’t say that” and “just pointing out he didn’t protest the right way”.

I think pcgeek has spent more words pointing out the potential issues with the marine’s protest then he has spent discussing the act that brought about that protest .
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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Oh shoot, now expect the furious “I didn’t say that” and “just pointing out he didn’t protest the right way”.

I think pcgeek has spent more words pointing out the potential issues with the marine’s protest then he has spent discussing the act that brought about that protest .
I have absolutely no doubt the deflection and/or back pedaling is incoming. "I was just making a point about the UCMJ!"

Sure, sure. He's one of the most transparent posters on this forum. This attempt is just truly pathetic.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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No, he cannot.

Uniform Rules for Veterans and Retirees

The rules for wearing military uniforms as a retired military member or a discharged veteran are similar for all the services. There are certain rules for those seeking to wear the uniform for formal functions, national holidays, parades, military funerals and weddings and other military occasions. Only the Service Dress Uniform may be worn; no work, battle dress or PT uniforms are permitted to be worn at formal events. For non-formal events, veterans are allowed to wear other working uniforms as deemed appropriate for the occasion.



Grooming standards are obviously not enforced when a veteran wears any of the uniforms, but it is common courtesy to wear the uniform as if you were still in the military conforming to all the hair, facial hair, finger nail, and other grooming standards of the military branch you represent. All veterans and retired members will conform with the same standards of appearance, military customs, practices, and conduct in uniform prescribed for active-duty.

You should report him and demand justice
 
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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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“The beatings will continue until morale improves.”

The popo are feeling pretty good about themselves, the best in years.
 

SMOGZINN

Lifer
Jun 17, 2005
14,221
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To me it looks more like a stunt to get attention using his military service as a prop. It is cheesy and against the regulations he served under.

I guess it did work for him so far as he is getting lots of attention.

That is the point of a protest, isn't it? To get attention, even if, maybe especially if, that means breaking a few rules.
You don't change the world by being quiet and respectful.
 
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