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Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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I can't recall too many times i've seen a good-guy cop intervene against another cop without the good-guy cop being the one punished/fired/shunned. I agree with what you think "should" be. Yet cops and their unions disagree with you and they don't seem very concerned with morality and they are the ones with power.
If that's the case, their power should be taken from them. Copwatch to the rescue my friend.
 
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Feb 4, 2009
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Heh.. one of the more interesting things about being a parent was discovering how conservative children are. Really was an eye-opener.
IMO 2 of the biggest myths in politics are the liberal belief that racism and intolerance are learned behaviors, and the conservative belief that wisdom and acquired knowledge cause people to become more conservative as they age. Both are completely wrong IMO.
Racism and intolerance are instinctual behaviors evolved to ensure the propagation of one's own genes in competition with the genes of others.
While people tend to become more conservative as they age, not because of wisdom, but because the world keeps changing, and they often don't.

My theory is kids and MAGA folks are stuck in might makes right as in the thought every guy has had that their Dad is more important because he is bigger or the my Dad is better because he is bigger than your Dad....
At some point you learn better hopefully.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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I am straight as an arrow. I don't care what others do in their own private lives. Just telling how liberals love to talk about compassion, understanding, inclusive, <insert more feel good slogans here> and at the same time, do not practice what they preach.

Still need me to spell out suggestions from the Atlanta mayor?
You would never be satisfied.
 
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hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
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Meanwhile, Bill Barr says it's radical left-wing groups...who to believe...
To be honest if you watched the protests/riots all over the country, there were definitely a lot of young white people on the front lines doing the damage. Whether they were there to make the BLM movement look bad or they were extreme leftists is hard to say. This is a damn perfect storm. Odd what people do when they feel they been locked up for the last couple of months. The storming of the CNN building made absolutely no sense. You could see groups of people decked out in the same protective gear like a uniform. Definite premeditation for destroying property.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Meanwhile, Bill Barr says it's radical left-wing groups...who to believe...
White nationalists posted online they were coming into Minneapolis to cause trouble

Expect Barr to ever mention that? Including the Boogaloo Boyz. Barr singled out left wing groups. DOJ officially corrupt on this issue.
 
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HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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I watched the SpaceX launch for a while. Isn't it amazing we can send men to space and the moon but we can't solve systemic racism in our criminal justice system.
 

HurleyBird

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Apr 22, 2003
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Meanwhile, Bill Barr says it's radical left-wing groups...who to believe...

It's not necessarily either/or. There's clearly a lot of antifa types involved, but I also wouldn't be surprised if there was far right false-flag stuff going on as well. Specifically towards the beginning of the riots to set the kindling, and less so now that the situation is fully engulfed. For example, the video of the guy with the umbrella didn't strike me as antifa at all.
 

ecogen

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Dec 24, 2016
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It's not necessarily either/or. There's clearly a lot of antifa types involved, but I also wouldn't be surprised if there was far right false-flag stuff going on as well. Specifically towards the beginning of the riots to set the kindling, and less so now that the situation is fully engulfed. For example, the video of the guy with the umbrella didn't strike me as antifa at all.

You wouldn't say this without anything to actually back it up, would you now?
 

HurleyBird

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Apr 22, 2003
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You wouldn't say this without anything to actually back it up, would you now?

A combination of pattern recognition and common freaking sense. If you think antifa could possibly keep their noses out of the rioting, you're seriously deluding yourself. It's their modus operandi. But besides that, plenty of people, and groups of people, who give off the air of antifa (eg. weak looking black clad white males) can be seen in various videos, along with stylised-A graffiti. It's that same pattern recognition and common sense that says that the umbrella guy is probably a false flag plant, since he gives off a totally different gestalt than an antifa member despite some surface similarity.
 

ecogen

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A combination of pattern recognition and common freaking sense. If you think antifa could possibly keep their noses out of the rioting, you're seriously deluding yourself. It's their modus operandi. But besides that, plenty of people, and groups of people, who give off the air of antifa (eg. weak looking black clad white males) can be seen in various videos, along with stylised-A graffiti. It's that same pattern recognition and common sense that says that the umbrella guy is probably a false flag plant, since he gives off a totally different gestalt than an antifa member despite some surface similarity.

So that's a no.
 

HurleyBird

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Apr 22, 2003
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Right. What I should have said was:

No matter how I respond, someone who would ask a question on the same level of stupidity as "do you have any proof water is wet?" isn't going to convinced of anything, and no one with a shred of intelligence will take the question seriously anyway, so why even bother.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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Now Trump says it's antifa...
How about something I just saw on TV. A professor at some university in San Bernadino said there were 5 possible groups of people out on the street. One of them he labeled accelerationists. They just want to foment anything. Something like the Rolling Stones Street Fighting Man.
 
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Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Let's see who's next on the list.. Obama, China, Mexicans... what else?
I'd say he needs to pick a bogeyman and stick with it, but that would defeat his agenda of labeling over half of Americans as enemies of the state purely because they don't support him.
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Right. What I should have said was:

No matter how I respond, someone who would ask a question on the same level of stupidity as "do you have any proof water is wet?" isn't going to convinced of anything, and no one with a shred of intelligence will take the question seriously anyway, so why even bother.

Arguing that you're right just because you say so is not a sign of intelligence regardless of how you try to spin it.
 

ecogen

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Right. What I should have said was:

No matter how I respond, someone who would ask a question on the same level of stupidity as "do you have any proof water is wet?" isn't going to convinced of anything, and no one with a shred of intelligence will take the question seriously anyway, so why even bother.

What you should have said was : No, I don't have anything to back it up with.

Lol @ the rest coming from someone with your post history. Jog on.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
Jul 15, 2000
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To be honest if you watched the protests/riots all over the country, there were definitely a lot of young white people on the front lines doing the damage. Whether they were there to make the BLM movement look bad or they were extreme leftists is hard to say. This is a damn perfect storm. Odd what people do when they feel they been locked up for the last couple of months. The storming of the CNN building made absolutely no sense. You could see groups of people decked out in the same protective gear like a uniform. Definite premeditation for destroying property.
A lot of property that is businesses in the riot areas that has been burned is owned by minority owners and yea, why storm CNN?, they're pretty Left-leaning in the politics as we all know. One wonders if this destruction is all being planned via the dark web by right-lean anarchists with the perfect cover. I hope some arrests will glean who were some of the players and what their background's are.
 
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pcgeek11

Lifer
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It's them damn Trump Supporters. Sneaky MFers.

I thought I would get that in before the rush.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
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Trump actually just gave a pretty good speech kind of trying to bring people together. Yea, I know, I'm totally shocked. It was completely read from a teleprompter at the Space Center. One key phrase just irked the shit out of me though. He said he will not allow the crown jewel of out country "the rule of law" be destroyed. What the hell does he care about the law. He flaunts it at every opportunity he can.
 
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