Eric Garner all over again

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Svnla

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Latest news, NYC will have curfew. Cuomo said so per Bloomberg TV.
 

LightPattern

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I have a brother in Omaha so I took a special interest in this confrontation that ended in death.

As has been mentioned many times by people defending shot black men (I'm saying that's justified here) having a "past" doesn't come into a current killing. You have to look at the evidence and there is plenty of video for this one.


I just watched the whole news conference (including video evidence) and this is a legitimate case of self defense.
 
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Svnla

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That might be one of the things that has to go then.


There is almost no way to get to the rich and powerful, they live in walled palaces. No, you have to hurt the middle class. You have to hurt the ma and pa store owners. The real problem is that they don't care. Make them care and they will get something done.

So with a straight face you would say that to the female store owner that was beaten up badly by several individuals (see link above from another poster)? To the store owners with businesses that were looted and burned down to the ground in downtown Dallas (see link above from me)? Wow.

Screw them for putting their blood, sweat, tears, and life savings into the businesses. Must be white privileges, eh?
 
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I have a brother in Omaha so I took a special interest in this confrontation that ended in death.

As has been mentioned many times by people defending shot black men (I'm saying that's justified here) having a "past" doesn't come into a current killing. You have to look at the evidence and there is plenty of video for this one.


I just watched the whole news conference (including video evidence) and this is a legitimate case of self defense.

B-B-B-B-But they were trying to PEACEFULLY DISARM HIM!!!
 

Atreus21

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So with a straight face you would say that to the female store owner that was beaten up badly by several individuals (see link above from another poster)? To the store owners that were looted and burned down to the ground in downtown Dallas (see link above from me)? Wow.

Screw them for putting their blood, sweat, tears, and life savings into the businesses. Must be white privileges, eh?

It's worth it. These peoples' families, children, problems, and lives are sacrificed upon this altar. They're just means to an end.

There are people in this thread who should be ashamed of themselves.
 
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JEDIYoda

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So with a straight face you would say that to the female store owner that was beaten up badly by several individuals (see link above from another poster)? To the store owners with businesses that were looted and burned down to the ground in downtown Dallas (see link above from me)? Wow.

Screw them for putting their blood, sweat, tears, and life savings into the businesses. Must be white privileges, eh?
You need to go back to sleep or back to the asylum.
Your jibberish is embarrassing.
Just make your point! As others do....
 

brycejones

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It's worth it. These peoples' families, children, problems, and lives are sacrificed upon this altar. They're just means to an end.

There are people in this thread who should be ashamed of themselves.

Who? Name Names. Generally speaking people here have expressed opposition to looting and violence.
 

JEDIYoda

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I just heard that the cause of death was totally by Asphyxiation acording to 2 outside pathologist who have reviewed the initial autopsy stated there was NOWAY this man died by anything other than Asphyxiation!
Which askes the question -- Why did they county pathologist list the cause of death by other medical problems.....and that asphyxiation contributed to the death but was not the main cause???
A possibly cover up or possibly rigging things do this officer can get off scott free??
 

JEDIYoda

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It's worth it. These peoples' families, children, problems, and lives are sacrificed upon this altar. They're just means to an end.

There are people in this thread who should be ashamed of themselves.
You are speaking out your ass...please stop! List names and don`t make ignorant assumptions...
 

Svnla

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You need to go back to sleep or back to the asylum.
Your jibberish is embarrassing.
Just make your point! As others do....

I guess I need to make my point like these individuals. As "others do", right?

meghan54-
Glad to see fudge packer's back.

From Wiki - fudge packer (plural fudge packers) (slang, derogatory) A male homosexual. (slang, derogatory) A person who practices anal sex. Used other than with a figurative or idiomatic meaning: see fudge,‎ packer.

zin -
"shit"
"shit"
"fuck"
"shit"
"idiots"
"buttbumping"
"fucks"

You were saying? Uh huh.
 
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brycejones

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I guess I need to make my point like these individuals.

meghan54-


From Wiki - fudge packer (plural fudge packers) (slang, derogatory) A male homosexual. (slang, derogatory) A person who practices anal sex. Used other than with a figurative or idiomatic meaning: see fudge,‎ packer.

zin -


You were saying?
Carry that anger.
 

Atreus21

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You are speaking out your ass...please stop! List names and don`t make ignorant assumptions...

Smogzinn, and anyone else who makes or defends statements like this:

"There is almost no way to get to the rich and powerful, they live in walled palaces. No, you have to hurt the middle class. You have to hurt the ma and pa store owners. The real problem is that they don't care. Make them care and they will get something done. "
 

zinfamous

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Places like Chicago were supposed to start re-opening this week. Something tells me all of this is just going to push it back further.

Enjoy economic despair, as it produces more and more homeless and more people violently protesting. Such a viscous cycle when the protests are creating what people proclaim to want to resolve.

still no comment on the exhibited difference between the protestors and the rioters, and the dude in the tanker that was driving many meters inside a closed highway when he tried to run over people?
 

zinfamous

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And of course, right on queue, the right invents another conspiracy theory by claiming that George Soros is funding the riots!


Is there any major event which has occurred in this country which a right wing conspiracy theory hasn't been invented to explain? Can anyone think of any?

because for right-wingers: it's always the joooos!
 
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JEDIYoda

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Smogzinn, and anyone else who makes or defends statements like this:

"There is almost no way to get to the rich and powerful, they live in walled palaces. No, you have to hurt the middle class. You have to hurt the ma and pa store owners. The real problem is that they don't care. Make them care and they will get something done. "
Here is what he meant -- The upper class or the rich are not affected by everyday life the same way as the middle and lower class! Yet it is the middle ans lower class who are most affected by these riots!
In order to get the attention of the rich and upper class you need to do something to make them care! Make them care and they will listen!

Now let us apply that to these riots....
In order to affect change talking has not worked......peaceful protesting has not worked or is it has been working it is taking too long to work!
Yet you bring the rich and upper class down to the level of the working people now they will listen! Why? Because they don`t want to lose what they have worked so hard to get....
If you are black you shouldn`t be asked to wait another 100 years in order to be treated as equal...
 
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zinfamous

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Good luck getting past the police unions.



This is disgusting. They're not hitting the powerful. They're burning down buildings where ordinary people work and live. I hope for your sake you're spared the violence you clearly sympathize with.

nah, you don't get it. It's your complete apathy and profound inhuman lack of empathy that allows this injustice to continue. It only works when everyone gets it. No one here supports this violence--again, only a simple mind would interpret these posts in that way--but most of us get it. We understand where it comes from, and being students of history, we know this isn't anything new, and we know that as far as society goes, it has only ever seemed to be the only way to get things done and get society to move.

It's terrible, but that's what it is.

I mean, you already won't let them do this peacefully, and don't fucking pretend that you didn't spend years belittling every fucking peaceful protest and championing how "Un-American!" they were to kneel, so what else do you expect?

No, it seems that you have to understand the pain and "mere inconvenience" to a couple weeks of your life to understand the lifetime, (generational), that large portions of this country have experienced.
 

K1052

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JEDIYoda

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Yikes..

So it seems that Louisville PD killed an unarmed BBQ restaurant owner who gave cops free meals.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...iness-owner-killed-by-authorities/ar-BB14TbAU

And the Mayor has canned the Chief of Police when it's realized the officers involved did not record on their body cams per policy.

https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/louis...al&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share
I saw that.....it seems that the Police are not capable of doing what is right and in my opinion they don not want to do what is right! They are afraid that they might actually be held and accountable for their actions!
Our country is unraveling before our very eyes and it appears that Trump is okay with that!!

On another notes -- That interview of the Minneapolis police Cheif on CNN was very emotional!!
 

zinfamous

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I guess I need to make my point like these individuals. As "others do", right?

meghan54-


From Wiki - fudge packer (plural fudge packers) (slang, derogatory) A male homosexual. (slang, derogatory) A person who practices anal sex. Used other than with a figurative or idiomatic meaning: see fudge,‎ packer.

zin -


You were saying? Uh huh.

lol, who hurt you?

Its like you have a folder of text files that go back years on your desktop, just tracking every little slight against you.

you are such a mistreated child.

You realize this pathetic, sad obsession of yours is just a terrible look for you, don't you?
 

Svnla

Lifer
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lol, who hurt you?

Its like you have a folder of text files that go back years on your desktop, just tracking every little slight against you.

you are such a mistreated child.

You realize this pathetic, sad obsession of yours is just a terrible look for you, don't you?

Say what you mean, mean what you say, and stand by what you say. Don't chicken out. You and your ilks said it so don't be so pathetic and avoid it. Now let tell the whole world about compassion, inclusive, "if they go low we will go high", love, peace, and understanding that liberals love to preach about.
 
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woolfe9998

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An independent autopsy contradicts the preliminary ME report we already saw:


The autopsy commissioned by Floyd's family says compression to the neck and back, caused by officers kneeling on him, led to a lack of blood flow to the brain.

I'm more inclined to credit this autopsy than the one we already saw, not because of where my sympathies lie here, but because 1) the official report remains preliminary and may change, and 2) people can die of asphyxia without a crushed trachea.

IF the final ME report is going to stick with underlying medical conditions and intoxication playing a role here, then they need to explain exactly what these conditions are and physiologically speaking, exactly why they were a necessary condition to cause death here. I didn't see that kind of specificity in the preliminary report, but then again I might not have seen the entire report.
 
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brycejones

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Say what you mean, mean what you say, and stand by what you say. Don't chicken out. You and your ilks said it so don't be so pathetic and avoid it. Now let tell the whole world about compassion, inclusive, "if they go low we will go high", love, peace, and understanding that liberals love to preach about.
So from your rage you're afraid of being outed? Newsflash dude, no one here cares.
 
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