Eric Garner all over again

[HomerJS]

From now on you will refer to me as Master.

It's up to us what we want to be called, after all, and no one else.

If I ever emerge from a fancy bottle in a cloud of smoke I'll consider it.

Meanwhile go fuck yourself, asshole.

 

[Atreus21]

If I ever emerge from a fancy bottle in a cloud of smoke I'll consider it.

Meanwhile go fuck yourself, asshole.

Well, presumably you got the point then. It's not nice when people tell you how you must speak.

 

[HomerJS]

Well, presumably you got the point then. It's not nice when people tell you how to speak.

Point is you are a racist piece of shit. People have every right to name their own identity.

I remember the 90s was the last time I referred to an Asian person as oriental. We were in a bar after a softball game. This cute girl looked me in the eye and said, "I'm a person not a rug". I didn't have to be told twice. I respected her wishes and learned after that using the word oriental was too old school for the times.

It's called respect. Too bad you don't have it.

 

[woolfe9998]

This is part of the systemic racism that's just ingrained in society. I was about just write this off as just an ignorant mothereffer, until I see he's actually a physician. This makes his comments 10x worse.
Using the words "colored", "colored population", along with this.
"Could it just be that African Americans or the colored population do not wash their hands as well as other groups or wear a mask or do not socially distance themselves?"

This guy's a racist right out of the 50's.

Yeah, notice a physician has given no consideration to the black/white difference in access to healthcare. Instead, he immediately leaps to the conclusion that it has to do with poor hygiene.

 

[alien42]

Well, presumably you got the point then. It's not nice when people tell you how you must speak.

It's not nice for someone to tell you how not to be a racist piece of shit? Go fuck yourself and welcome to my ignore list.

 

[Atreus21]

Point is you are a racist piece of shit. People have every right to name their own identity.

To what extent? Certainly not to any extent, otherwise whites could require themselves be called Master without issue.

I remember the 90s was the last time I referred to an Asian person as oriental. We were in a bar after a softball game. This cute girl looked me in the eye and said, "I'm a person not a rug". I didn't have to be told twice. I respected her wishes and learned after that using the word oriental was too old school for the times.

It's called respect. Too bad you don't have it.

Perhaps you should meet my wife sometime.

I don't object to terms changing with the times. It's just that the difference between "person of color" and "colored person" is essentially nil, yet it marks the difference between a progressive and apparently a member of the KKK. Meanwhile no one minds the the NAACP, who can use it without complaint.

 

[UberNeuman]

ah, a fundie racist. Never seen one of them before. lol.

 

[brycejones]

ah, a fundie racist. Never seen one of them before. lol.

Its what White Jesus would do. Haven't you seen the new WWWJD wrist bands?

 

[MixMasterTang]

To what extent? Certainly not to any extent, otherwise whites could require themselves be called Master without issue.



Perhaps you should meet my wife sometime.

I don't object to terms changing with the times. It's just that the difference between "person of color" and "colored person" is essentially nil, yet it marks the difference between a progressive and apparently a member of the KKK. Meanwhile no one minds the the NAACP, who can use it without complaint.

Did you ever think that the point of asking what to be called is a peaceful way of saying "Please don't call me the N-word, <other racist terms>, etc. but if you insist on calling me by a generic term here is one you can use."

 

[HomerJS]

To what extent? Certainly not to any extent, otherwise whites could require themselves be called Master without issue.



Perhaps you should meet my wife sometime.

I don't object to terms changing with the times. It's just that the difference between "person of color" and "colored person" is essentially nil, yet it marks the difference between a progressive and apparently a member of the KKK. Meanwhile no one minds the the NAACP, who can use it without complaint.

How many fucking times do I have to tell you, it ain't your decision it's ours. Guess what I can call another black person my ni**a. I don't generally do it but I can, you can't. Why? Because we were called that by white men as a means to dehumanize and denigrate. Today we have co-opted it. Note for white people using it is like juggling nitro-glycerin and TNT. Your margin for error is pretty close to zero.

Now go back and put on your white hood. Tulsa is waiting.

 

[nakedfrog]

To what extent? Certainly not to any extent, otherwise whites could require themselves be called Master without issue.



Perhaps you should meet my wife sometime.

I don't object to terms changing with the times. It's just that the difference between "person of color" and "colored person" is essentially nil, yet it marks the difference between a progressive and apparently a member of the KKK. Meanwhile no one minds the the NAACP, who can use it without complaint.

In very, very simple terms: context matters.

 

[shortylickens]

remember those cops in Buffalo who attacked the little old man?
They allegedly gave him a brain injury. So says his doctor.

 

[Atreus21]

How many fucking times do I have to tell you, it ain't your decision it's ours.

Once, at least. I think this is the first time you've told me.

Guess what I can call another black person my ni**a. I don't generally do it but I can, you can't. Why? Because we were called that by white men as a means to dehumanize and denigrate. Today we have co-opted it. Note for white people using it is like juggling nitro-glycerin and TNT. Your margin for error is pretty close to zero.

You didn't answer my question. If blacks may require that people refer to them by a specific term, why can't whites?

 

[brycejones]

You didn't answer my question. If blacks may require that people refer to them by a specific term, why can't whites?

We go by white. What kind of dumb fucking question is this?

 

[Atreus21]

We go by white. What kind of dumb fucking question is this?

Jesus Christ. If whites as a group started requiring that blacks refer to them as Master, that would be outrageous, correct?

 

[TheVrolok]

We go by white. What kind of dumb fucking question is this?

One with zero intellectual honesty or dignity. It's straight trolling.

Don't forget, this is the guy who thinks the GOP doesn't play identity politics. LOL.

 

[ch33zw1z]

One with zero intellectual honesty or dignity. It's straight trolling.

Don't forget, this is the guy who thinks the GOP doesn't play identity politics. LOL.

True story, disengage. Unfortunately, he represents many dishonest people who stand with him

 

[Atreus21]

One with zero intellectual honesty or dignity. It's straight trolling.

Don't forget, this is the guy who thinks the GOP doesn't play identity politics. LOL.

True story, disengage. Unfortunately, he represents many dishonest people who stand with him

More evasiveness and invective. Could anyone answer the question?

 

[TheVrolok]

More evasiveness and invective. Could anyone answer the question?

Quite frankly, if you can't see why the question is ridiculous on its face, you're not equipped to have an honest discussion.

 

[Atreus21]

Quite frankly, if you can't see why the question is ridiculous on its face, you're not equipped to have an honest discussion.

And more evasiveness. All I want to know is, If whites as a group started requiring that blacks refer to them as Master, that would be outrageous, correct?

For heaven's sake, that shouldn't be hard to answer.

 

[TheVrolok]

And more evasiveness. All I want to know is, If whites as a group started requiring that blacks refer to them as Master, that would be outrageous, correct?

For heaven's sake, that shouldn't be hard to answer.

What you want is any one of us to day "of course it is," because, of course it is. The issue is that you view that answer as a "gotcha!" when it's obviously not only because, as I said, you're entirely the unequipped to have this discussion.

 

[Atreus21]

What you want is any one of us to day "of course it is," because, of course it is.

Yes, exactly. Therefore groups do not have the sole right to determine the terms used to describe them. The party which must refer to them in that way has a say as well.

It seriously shouldn't take this much grief to prove one lousy and obvious point.

 

[snoopy7548]

Column: Why is ‘people of color’ OK but not ‘colored people’? A reading list for white folks

After an earlier column, emails poured in from white people who said they had no idea that “colored” was offensive.

www.chicagotribune.com

Do some reading.

Now, in 2020, “people of color” often is used to refer to the collective group of non-white Americans. It is offensive to single blacks out as “colored.” That, in part, is because of the painful segregationist history associated with the term prior to the mid-1960s. “Colored-only” restrooms and water fountains are examples of harmful relics of the Jim Crow South that black people had to fight, and die, to remove from American culture.

 

[TheVrolok]

Yes, exactly. Therefore groups do not have the sole right to determine the terms used to describe them. The party which must refer to them in that way has a say as well.

It seriously shouldn't take this much grief to prove one lousy and obvious point.

Jesus Christ man, reading comprehension. I just told you were wrong before you even said it.

I'll say it again now that you've said exactly what I, and the others, knew you were going to say... You're wrong.

As I said, you apparently lack the ability to have anything but a concrete thought (although not a huge surprise). If you can't understand how inequities between groups means they don't always play by the same rules.. Well, simply, you're wrong.

 

[hal2kilo]

Column: Why is ‘people of color’ OK but not ‘colored people’? A reading list for white folks

After an earlier column, emails poured in from white people who said they had no idea that “colored” was offensive.

www.chicagotribune.com

Do some reading.

When is was a kid in Arlington, VA, I was taught to call black people colored people and to never to use the N word (although I heard my parents use the term between themselves several times). My maternal grandmother from South Boston VA (Danville) used the term nigres.