It is interesting that you speak as if having black persons on every government position is something unthinkable. After all, there have been many places in this country you won't see non-whites (males) and for many that is "normal."
And you arrived at that opinion how, exactly? Because Holder points out that the Justice System delivers racist results?
No. It is because he makes everything about race. Even if it isn't. Just like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, they are all from the same mold.
It is interesting that you speak as if having black persons on every government position is something unthinkable. After all, there have been many places in this country you won't see non-whites (males) and for many that is "normal."
Examples of reasons why folks hate Holder. The black panthers?
http://videos.mediaite.com/video/Eric-Holder-Opponents-Cant-Tell
Please watch the above video. It explains all.
hey. What if holder regrows his afro and moves to ferguson...
He can then set up house so that berrie can join him in a couple years (sans michelle)...
berrie can grow some dope in the back yard and sell it to reggie (love) who will run the towns medical marijuana dispensary...
All this while eric establishes the towns black panther party and intimidates whitey at the polls...
They can all visit their next door neighbor eric bell on saturdays to discuss the righteousness of black liberation theology...
And on sundays walk down the street to church and get a dose of spiritual bigotry and racism from the good reverend wright... ()
Such a pleasant person and post. Thankfully there is a full shelf's supply of emoticons downstairs! ^_^:|:hmm::$:ninja::twisted::awe:
Or maybe you're touchy about that subject because what you truly believe isn't what you can profess to believe at all.
White people who carry racist sentiment deep in their hearts don't want to confront that but they reveal it anyway when the subject is raised. They obfuscate & make false attributions instead, like this-
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36648082&postcount=33
Perhaps you'd care to explain how racist results can possibly occur w/o underlying racism. The only way, of course, is to claim that blacks really are inferior, but you can't just come out & say that, can you?
I seldom agree with you on anything, but I largely agree here. Holder is a long time racial justice warrior, but that does not necessarily make him a racist. That just means he is hypersensitive to racial discrimination - it's at the top of his personal pecking order of issues. At times that lens distorts the true appearance so that he sees racism where none exists. But where racism actually exists and is injuring people, racial justice warriors are invaluable to those injured, being less willing to assume that things are copacetic than is your average bear.Look, no matter how many times people suggest it, if people honestly feel Holder is a racist then it's a slam dunk that they have either become what they hate or hate what they have become. Fighting for your people who still in the year 2014 NEED a champion, and hating whites because they are white are two completely different things. I've read enough posts here by the ultra right "Where is Al and Jessie" crew to know you guys aren't fooling anyone. Protest less and you might blend in better. Just look at the first page and who is calling him a racist. You, Row, pcgeek, and Poker Guy. Great company to be in. Maybe Spidey, Spatially Aware, and Geosurface can add their 2 cents so the circle can become complete.
Totally agree. Business as usual in DC. You pay to play and they get paid very well to turn blind eyes. He was a POS AG and it had nothing to do with the color of his skin.
I seldom agree with you on anything, but I largely agree here. Holder is a long time racial justice warrior, but that does not necessarily make him a racist. That just means he is hypersensitive to racial discrimination - it's at the top of his personal pecking order of issues. At times that lens distorts the true appearance so that he sees racism where none exists. But where racism actually exists and is injuring people, racial justice warriors are invaluable to those injured, being less willing to assume that things are copacetic than is your average bear.
EDIT: As far as Holder being a Point Of Sale* AG, while the warrior for justice model AG is a nice fantasy, in reality the AG is a political animal. While it would be nice if the people responsible for crashing the economy (meaning those who committed crimes, not those who did things which with hind sight were stupid) were appropriately punished, in reality neither Obama nor the Democrats nor the Pubbies have any interest in doing this. I'm not sure it's entirely fair to judge Holder by standards not embraced by his predecessors nor successors.
* Yes, I know what you actually meant.
Or maybe you're touchy about that subject because what you truly believe isn't what you can profess to believe at all.
White people who carry racist sentiment deep in their hearts don't want to confront that but they reveal it anyway when the subject is raised. They obfuscate & make false attributions instead, like this-
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36648082&postcount=33
Perhaps you'd care to explain how racist results can possibly occur w/o underlying racism. The only way, of course, is to claim that blacks really are inferior, but you can't just come out & say that, can you?
Un-intended consequences. The measures taken to correct the economic disparity very well could have unintentionally had the opposite effect.Jhhnn said:Perhaps you'd care to explain how racist results can possibly occur w/o underlying racism.
Link up the legislation intended to stop what's happening, now that you've claimed it actually exists.
You've discussed this in other threads. Your theory is that:
Fact:
Blacks are lower on the economic scale than whites
Possible explanations:
Blacks are inferior people
The U.S. is a racist country
Any other possible explanations:
None
Conclusion:
The U.S. is a racist country
So when someone points out that in many neighborhoods the culture is such that being a part of the white man's system is frowned upon... things like obtaining an education... Dressing professionally... Holding a steady job... You pull out your little cheat sheet of possible explanations, and declare the person making the observation racist for believing blacks are inferior (because there are no other explanations on your cheat sheet to choose from).
And then you spin this story to fill in the gaps of your narrative for your mind's benefit, how everyone around you is living in denial of their deep-rooted racism.
Un-intended consequences. The measures taken to correct the economic disparity very well could have unintentionally had the opposite effect.
I would be more worried about the White House giving access to Muslim organizations to the White House. Maybe the President says he is not a Muslim, but he shore acts like one.
Even if one entertains your unintended consequences theory, it's been obvious for decades that those consequences are real & undesirable yet the only person in authority who's publicly sought to change them has been... Holder.
Dance around that all you want.

"Attorney General Eric Holder's record was badly blemished by his nearly overwhelming failure to hold corporate criminals accountable," said Public Citizen President Robert Weissman in a press release. "Holder came into office in the immediate aftermath of a devastating financial crisis caused by an epidemic of corporate crime and wrongdoing. Five years later, he has failed utterly to hold the perpetrators of the crisis accountable. 'Too big to jail' became de facto policy, as the U.S. Department of Justice declined to prosecute or even seriously investigate the Wall Street banks or their CEOs who crashed our economy and devastated communities across the country.
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I would be more worried about the White House giving access to Muslim organizations to the White House. Maybe the President says he is not a Muslim, but he shore acts like one.
So everyone who disagrees with you is irrational, and those who agree with you on one particular issue but usually disagree are trying to "squirm into a rational position". Gotcha. Yeah, you heap big thinker for sure.thanks for identifying yourself.
Is the tin foil getting tight on the ol head? lack of oxygen etc....
At least Werepossom tries to squirm into a rational position. Some of you just seriously need medication.
The guy was an Attourney General. Show me ONE case where ruled as an AG that is viewed as being racist.
The only times you can think he was in fact racially motivated was when he had to appear as the AG to quell racial tensions. He was doing his job and was sent by his boss in his stead.
Stuff like this proves that we live in a bizarro media world
Those were your statements. You have said flat out the only possibilities for why the black community is not progressing on par with whites is that either blacks are inferior or this country is racist, you do not accept that blacks are inferior, thus this country is racist.When somebody points out that they have no fucking idea what they're talking about but rather spreads bigoted stereotypes, they tend to lose credibility with all but their fellow travelers.
Even if one entertains your unintended consequences theory, it's been obvious for decades that those consequences are real & undesirable yet the only person in authority who's publicly sought to change them has been... Holder.
Dance around that all you want.
Jhhnn - Native American families who live off of government assistance intended to correct the injustices done to them in the past, often live in absolute desperate poverty conditions getting worse as each year passes, while Native American families who refuse the same government assistance often have built themselves prosperous.
Would you describe the government assistance programs as inherently racist? Would you describe the Native American people as inferior? Or would you describe the assistance programs as well intentioned but having unintended consequences? All you have to do is choose your response. Say what you mean. Talk specifics instead of broad generalities of little substance.