Erin Andrews 911 call

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Ns1

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I would actually argue she has as much success as she is enjoying now because this happened to her.

Can you go ahead and make that argument? I'm curious and would like to hear it.
 

ALIVE

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because you're not supposed to tell strangers what rooms other people are in?
so when a female teacher sleeps with a boy
there is no violation to any rule
because i do not see anyone sue the school!?!??!?
 

Ns1

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so when a female teacher sleeps with a boy
there is no violation to any rule
because i do not see anyone sue the school!?!??!?

we're talking about a hotel, not a school. try again.
 

ALIVE

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we're talking about a hotel, not a school. try again.

and whats the difference

in both cases people work on them
in both cases people broke the rules

so they are similar
you try again
 

Ns1

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and whats the difference

in both cases people work on them
in both cases people broke the rules

so they are similar
you try again

In one case I go to a hotel with the expectation that the hotel will not give to some stranger my room number. In the other case...who gives a shit because it's not the same fucking thing.
 

dr150

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and the hotel is in wrong why!?!??!?!?!?!
why not sue the America president then
it is he fault the schools failed to give moral to the person that worked in the hotel and caused the problem

unless that person has do the same thing in the past and somehow kept his job then yes the hotel are in charge

if that person goes to church lets sue also the church
and the list can go on

you can not held a company responsible for the morality of employes

thats why america is so fucked up
lets fuck the hotel for no good reason it happens
lets punish a company that steals the people and do illegal stuff
never happens

Amen brother.

Corrupt individuals should be held accountable, not the corp. for malfeasance. If this was a 2 * B&B, this $$$ lawsuit wouldn't have been worth anyone's time.

It's like that other story where the fucking Principal blamed the teacher for not locking her phone when that fucking kid went Mission Impossible into her phone to find nude pics of her. What bullshit is this?! Go after the kid, not the teacher! Whether you lock your phone or not or what apps you use is up to you. It's your fucking phone!

Accountability is fucked up way too often.
 

Ns1

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Amen brother.

Corrupt individuals should be held accountable, not the corp. for malfeasance. If this was a 2 * B&B, this $$$ lawsuit wouldn't have been worth anyone's time.

Companies are responsible for the actions of their agents.
 

purbeast0

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nerds on an internet forum didn't know who a sports reporter was prior to a nude video of her going viral on the internet.

I AM SHOCKED I TELL YOU!
 

Ns1

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@ALIVE

here, now you can say you've seen a district get sued.

http://www.scpr.org/news/2014/11/21/48132/140m-settlement-in-miramonte-civil-suit-against-la/

Lawyers for the Los Angeles Unified School District have reached a settlement in which the district is agreeing to pay a total of nearly $140 million to dozens of students of Miramonte Elementary School who had filed a civil lawsuit against the district over its handling of the sexual abuse case of former Miramonte teacher Mark Berndt
 

dr150

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Companies are responsible for the actions of their agents.

So if you own a small car repair shop and you just hired a guy. And he starts to deal drugs and then YOU get sued for that loser's illicit activities (since you have money and your employees doesn't), do you actually feel then that it's correct for people to sue you for some asshole's stupidity?

It's pretty obvious that these financial lawsuits would be tremendously minimalized if everybody had no money. Only the ones with money are laser locked to a stupid lawsuit from some scheister Better Call Saul ambulance chasing lawyer who talks a good game and is able to influence a gaggle of mouth breathing jurors to side against you with aggressive prejudice.
 

Ns1

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So if you own a small car repair shop and you just hired a guy.

If that guy did something wrong like missed a bolt and caused an accident, I would assume I would be responsible for that guy's actions.

In the context of the OP, the hotel hired an individual. That individual gave CrepperDude information that they should not have, as an agent of the company (presumably against policy), which led to the events.
 

purbeast0

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So if you own a small car repair shop and you just hired a guy. And he starts to deal drugs and then YOU get sued for that loser's illicit activities (since you have money and your employees doesn't), do you actually feel then that it's correct for people to sue you for some asshole's stupidity?

It's pretty obvious that these financial lawsuits would be tremendously minimalized if everybody had no money. Only the ones with money are laser locked to a stupid lawsuit from some scheister Better Call Saul ambulance chasing lawyer who talks a good game and is able to influence a gaggle of mouth breathing jurors to side against you with aggressive prejudice.

if he's dealing drugs out of your business then yes your business should be liable to a degree.

and you're a moron for hiring a drug dealer, let alone one that deals drugs from your business.
 

lupi

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If someone looking like a deliver dude walked up to the counter and asked for someone's room number i'd expect most places to also just hand it out.

This was a retarded decision.
 

dr150

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if he's dealing drugs out of your business then yes your business should be liable to a degree.

and you're a moron for hiring a drug dealer, let alone one that deals drugs from your business.

It's unfair to be held accountable for the secret activities of others if you followed all proper protocol (clean background checks) when hiring and adhere to all state guidelines in properly operating your business.

So if your employee leaves offsite and deals drugs during his lunchtime and then you get a fast talking ambulance chasing lawyer throw a "spin" and sue you for whatever and you're fine with that, then you're a chump, b/c that's wholly unfair.

And that goes back to my original point. No money. No lawyers suing for $$$. Lawyers play craps with innocent people's lives b/c they CAN. Sometimes it pays off big and that's what they're banking on, just b/c they know how to file the lawsuit form with the local court.
 

purbeast0

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It's unfair to be held accountable for the secret activities of others if you followed all proper protocol (clean background checks) when hiring and adhere to all state guidelines in properly operating your business.

So if your employee leaves offsite and deals drugs during his lunchtime and then you get a fast talking ambulance chasing lawyer throw a "spin" and sue you for whatever and you're fine with that, then you're a chump, b/c that's wholly unfair.

And that goes back to my original point. No money. No lawyers suing for $$$. Lawyers play craps with innocent people's lives b/c they CAN. Sometimes it pays off big and that's what they're banking on, just b/c they know how to file the lawsuit form with the local court.

not even sure why you are bringing up that comparison. the act of the employee happened on marriot property while he was working giving out private information to the hotel that he is not supposed to give out.

that has nothing to do with going off site to do X then coming back to work.
 

Ns1

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this is not like the situation we're talking about at all.

It's unfair to be held accountable for the secret activities of others if you followed all proper protocol (clean background checks) when hiring and adhere to all state guidelines in properly operating your business.

So if your employee leaves offsite and deals drugs during his lunchtime and then you get a fast talking ambulance chasing lawyer throw a "spin" and sue you for whatever and you're fine with that, then you're a chump, b/c that's wholly unfair.
 

Homerboy

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If someone looking like a deliver dude walked up to the counter and asked for someone's room number i'd expect most places to also just hand it out.

This was a retarded decision.

Except that's not even close to what actually happened in this case.

Honestly, the posts in this thread just get more and more dumb.
 
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baydude

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How about all the other less famous victims of voyeurism in private places? How much of the $55 million do they get?
 

Homerboy

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How about all the other less famous victims of voyeurism in private places? How much of the $55 million do they get?

Based on the precedent set forth by this case? I'd say their attorneys should go for $55M.
 

Ns1

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If someone looking like a deliver dude walked up to the counter and asked for someone's room number i'd expect most places to also just hand it out.

the proper action is for the front desk staff to call the person in the room.

do you people just stay at shit motels all the time or something jfc.
 

Exterous

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Creepy dude at front desk: "Hey, can you tell me what room Erin Andrews, the famous hottie sports celeb, is staying in and can you give me the room directly next to hers?"

Front desk: "Yes, absolutely!"

I think this guy had done this repeatedly, as well, but probably not only at Marriot? Needless to say, that is exactly what happened here where the video was recorded.

How are they not in some way culpable?


because you're not supposed to tell strangers what rooms other people are in?

Except that is not what happened. He found an unattended house phone in the restaurant that guests are not supposed to use. I believe it was the one at the reservation desk while the hostess was seating someone. It is quite common for these phones to be used to contact guests staying at the hotel. He then called the Operator and asked to be connected to her room. The phone then displays the room number which is a common setup so the restaurant knows which room is calling them. He hangs up. He heads up to that floor. He sees the room nearby is being cleared out - goes down to the front desk and asks for that room.

He did originally ask to be in a room near hers but the hotel did not do that nor did they ever explicitly tell him what room she was in

http://pagesix.com/2016/02/29/erin-andrews-stalker-revealed-his-creepy-peephole-techniques/

Personally it doesn't seem like Marriott is 49% at fault for this since they didn't give him the room near hers because he asked to be near her nor did they ever tell him what room she was in. (Its not uncommon for travelers to request certain rooms or certain floors for a variety of reasons)
 
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Ns1

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Except that is not what happened. He found an unattended house phone in the restaurant that guests are not supposed to use. I believe it was the one at the reservation desk while the hostess was seating someone. It is quite common for these phones to be used to contact guests staying at the hotel. He then called the Operator and asked to be connected to her room. The phone then displays the room number which is a common setup. He hangs up. He heads up to that floor. He sees the room nearby is being cleared out - goes down to the front desk and asks for that room.

He did originally ask to be in a room near hers but the hotel did not do that nor did they ever explicitly tell him what room she was in

interesting; thanks for the correction. Guess they're going to need some additional policies & procedures to close those loopholes up.
 
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