Essay I wrote for not attending senior prom...

[azazyel]

This is/was a good thread. It is probably on it's way down to the tread graveyard but I did find this very entertaining. I also want to thank that person who hosted the paper, I will get to reading it soon. But based on all of the comments I have a couple little things I want to add.

-Writing about depression, anger, or the poor qualities of others is a simple thing to do. The darkside is easier, quicker not more powerful. As well, writing in general is about the conveying of ideas and emotions to an audience. Writing should be smooth, seamless and aimed towards your audience. The use of $100 words can detract from your message and cause people to stumble and loose interest.

-Prom is not about the dance at all, it is about hanging out with friends. I was at the dance for about an hour, which is about the time it took to get my picture taken with my date. The rest was hanging out at a hotel with my friends trying to have a good time. All in all my prom was horrible and I would do a taste test with anyone who thinks they could top my prom. But, later in life I am able to look back and laugh about it.

-It is obvious that the writer was hoping that people would be shocked and stunned by the magnitude of his thoughts. On ATOT this will not happen, ever. This is especially true when you have an intro to the post that states, "I truly had to resist posting this here because I knew every reply would be negative and telling me that I'm stupid and that I know nothing." If the poster had simple asked to be critiqued on his writing style this tread would have been quit different. Personally, I would never post my writing on here unless I was looking for some editing advice.

 

You know, I read that paper. First and foremost, let me say that I went to prom, I didn't really enjoy my date, nor the dance a whole lot. However, it was well worth the memories and stories. I can never say "what if" to myself later in life.

Anyway, on with the paper.

I have NEVER read a paper with so many useless words in it. I've read a friends senior thesis, a paper that is meant for someone with a PhD for gods sake. I've read scientific journal entries that use more common words, and all these are meant for the most educated minds in our country, yet they do not see the need to use the words that are found in this essay.

You need help, pronto. Get over yourself, realize that ANYONE who says they are too "mature" for something really isnt...in fact, they are the exact opposite. A mature person wouldn't need to do all this crap.

To all those that hounded and defended him, he had it coming. There are people on here that really don't care for feelings, and those that sugercoat everything. I would rather have the uncaring people telling me things, because at least they will be honost. You sugarcoating people need to realize that you really do no good when you do that.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: FallenHero
You know, I read that paper. First and foremost, let me say that I went to prom, I didn't really enjoy my date, nor the dance a whole lot. However, it was well worth the memories and stories. I can never say "what if" to myself later in life.

Anyway, on with the paper.

I have NEVER read a paper with so many useless words in it. I've read a friends senior thesis, a paper that is meant for someone with a PhD for gods sake. I've read scientific journal entries that use more common words, and all these are meant for the most educated minds in our country, yet they do not see the need to use the words that are found in this essay.

You need help, pronto. Get over yourself, realize that ANYONE who says they are too "mature" for something really isnt...in fact, they are the exact opposite. A mature person wouldn't need to do all this crap.

To all those that hounded and defended him, he had it coming. There are people on here that really don't care for feelings, and those that sugercoat everything. I would rather have the uncaring people telling me things, because at least they will be honost. You sugarcoating people need to realize that you really do no good when you do that.

This post sums it up nicely.

 

[MacBaine]

As much as you want to deny it, this is pure, unadultered teenage angst. In 5 years you will realize how goddamn stupid you sound now, and how much fun you missed out on simply because you felt that you were too good for society. It's quite the opposite. Kill yourself

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

A lot of people on here are heartless. Just remember you are better than them, because you have a heart, which is quite evident in your writing. I respect and like your writing. I am a writer myself. All I can say is who cares what some of these people think. I don't think you should leave because of them. You're better than that. Just ignore them and remember there are some people on here that do have hearts and enjoyed your writings. I read your poetry section, and liked it very much.

you are a writer, and you found that piece to be high quality? umm no offense (seriously) but that was terrible. using words that are very rarely used, such as misanthropy, and putting it in bad run-on sentences is absolutely horrific. that doesnt even take into account the fact that a lot of it makes no sense. its like he is literally using MS thesaurus (sp?) on every word in there. im not a writer and i dont claim to be, but its easy to tell when something is well-written with sound points and this "paper" clearly has neither of those characteristics.

It doesn't matter if he's a "good" writer or not. The bottom line is that none of you should be judging him. At least he was honest about his life, and wrote something about it. How many of you can say you've done the same thing?

I believe the saying is judge not lest ye be judged.

That essay sucked. Everyone has a right to an opinion, but I don't have to respect that opinion or like the writing style of someone who thinks knowing how to spell a big word means knowing how to use it correctly in a sentence....

In his defense, writers have to write and not everyone is John Steinbeck right out of the gates...

Judge away...

 

[azazyel]

OMFG....I have to keep reminding myself that just because there is a lot of posts and a heated argument doesn't mean that it is worth reading. This guy is in highschool?

 

[bigalt]

christ, he's in high school! you can't expect a masterpiece from someone in high school. he took an artistic shot at expressing his feelings, and nobody should be punished for doing so.

If everyone wrote using the bare minimum of words required, we would have no literature worth reading, ever. maybe everyone here read the concise, simplified versions of james joyce? There is plenty of room in the English language to use 10 words for every meaning, and make more up where they are required. i'm glad shakespeare didn't come here for people to preview his writing!

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: bigalt
christ, he's in high school! you can't expect a masterpiece from someone in high school. he took an artistic shot at expressing his feelings, and nobody should be punished for doing so.

If everyone wrote using the bare minimum of words required, we would have no literature worth reading, ever. maybe everyone here read the concise, simplified versions of james joyce? There is plenty of room in the English language to use 10 words for every meaning, and make more up where they are required. i'm glad shakespeare didn't come here for people to preview his writing!

I'm glad Shakespeare didn't come here whinging about how he didn't fit in in high school!

 

[Kev]

wow this is classic

 

[Ornery]

One quick observation, since this is back up top again. The ONLY thing I saw Nut 'whining' about, was people pestering him about why he wasn't going. They kept hounding for a reason, and he gave them a few... IN SPADES. They asked, he answered, so HTF is that whining?

 

[Modeps]

I wanted to read it, but looks like it's not linked anymore... and i dont wanna weed through the rest of the thread.

 

[Corporate Thug]

wow, am i the only one who cant find it?

 

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: hypersonic5

Originally posted by: Chadder007
Uh.....did you get rid of the PDF on the site?

Haha, he did. Loser. I bet you he still comes to ATOT to check this thread, even though he doesn't post.

Luckily I saved the file, if someone is willing to host it.

Done

For the people who don't feel like reading all the posts...above is the "essay".

 

[Mill]

I'm not a bandwagon fan, but I have to agree with much of the sentiment in this thread. You don't have it all figured out yet, and your writing was too forced to be enjoyable. It was obvious that bit of writing didn't use your normal prose or vocabulary. Because you have little practice(or suck) with that type of prose you screwed it up badly. I don't care about your reasons for not going to Prom, because I've always felt it was a cop-out to not go. You're simply saying that you don't fit in, and then begging for people to believe it is because you are so much more intelligent than them. Unless you are Rainman, or totally lack social skills, then I find it hard to believe that you wrote that except for one reason: Elitism. I'm not saying you aren't intelligent, because there is a good chance that you are. However, you're intelligence should tell you that social skills, readability, and a personality are key for people liking and understanding your ideas. When you get that down then you might be able to have the impact you wanted.

 

[Gulzakar]

everyone has regrets... if you keep playing it safe, you'll never know.

If you want to win you have to roll the dice from time to time...sometimes you crap out, sometimes you score big. Plan on crapping out a lot...and learn from that.

It is in our ventures...our failures, that we learn the most.

 

[Ornery]

Hey Zach, are you saying you have to actually take one up the poop shute to know whether you'll like it or not?

 

[Gulzakar]

On one hand, I suppose that could be applied...though it seems a bit drastic.

Going to prom and taking it in the pooper are two different things.

 

[Amorphus]

Originally posted by: Kauru
Your writing ability leaves MUCH to be desired. It sounds like you just used a thesaurus throughout the entire thing--it's absolutely abysmal. First, I'd work on you writing, then I'd work on your social skills.

Irony!


By the way, I got to the second "paragraph", and I stopped. I'm seriously considering posting this in public places with DO NOT WRITE LIKE THIS on it.

idNut, I'm sure that you would like comfort, solace, and sympathizers. But frankly, with your head up your arse and your self-percieved halo, we've taken a disliking to you. You absolutely know that you think you are better than others - your "essay" (such as it is) reeks of it. And we, on the other hand, can see past that unpleasant outer shell rather easily. We've all been through the same teenage pissed-offedness (since you don't like us using the word "angst"), and we know what its like. The only difference between you and us is the fact that you have a holier-than-thou enlightened attitude about it.
When a beggar comes up to me in the street and demands money, I will never give it to him. One who humbly asks gets whatever loose change I have and possibly more. Mmkay?

As for those berating the people putting idNut down - shaddup. He deserves it. He deserves a good heaping of love from his family and friends, too, and we might have given him comfort too, had he not been a self-centered, egoistical social reject in denial about it. Right pissed us off, the buggah did.

 

[BigBadBiologist]

The font in the .pdf is pretty.

 

[Modeps]

the 'article' sounds too much like a kid trying to write using SAT words wherever they could.

 

[BlackJesus03]

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: FrogDog
So have you set a date yet for the suicide, or are you just going to play it by ear?

Edit - Seriously though (. . . .) I once was like you (just take it down about 20 notches), and then I grew up. Sorry, but it'll happen to you too.

You know, I realized I made my name sh!t on these forums but when is time to let it go? This forum is the only place (on the net and in real life) that shows any hatred for me. I know I post weird sh!t on here but this is the only place, the ONLY place that ever says I'm some stupid teen that doesn't know jack sh!t, that needs to grow up out of this depression bullsh!t and has this infamous "teen angst" crap you all love to throw at me. I had about fifty people read that essay and I got nothing but positive responses. It was from people on the internet to people I live around.

I just don't understand why I can't ever get one single positive reply from this forum. Coming here I'm just labeled psychotic. I mean other people read this saying it's profound, deep and brooding and that I should try and get published. Here, teen angst, teen angst, pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-philosophical, psudeo-everything. I question if you all have no conception of my work, are simply ignorant to it and quick to insult or just using me as a target to shoot your own insecurities at. I really don't know.

Hey- good for you. Some people thought it was good. Others thought it sucked. Get over yourself, and realize that you're not as great a writer as you thought you were. A lot of people thought Hitler had it right too, and while that is a horrible analogy, don't think that because someone you respect thought it was great that everyone who disagrees is just trying to "bring you down."

If you disagree, get the damn thing published and then laugh in our faces. But until then, leave the rest of us alone and don't clutter up our day with overly-intellectualized crap writing that you think is great. The higher up you are, the farther the fall is.Relax. :wine:

 

[BlackJesus03]

Originally posted by: idNut

Originally posted by: Wuffsunie

Originally posted by: idNut
This forum is the only place (on the net and in real life) that shows any hatred for me. I know I post weird sh!t on here but this is the only place, the ONLY place that ever says I'm some stupid teen that doesn't know jack sh!t, that needs to grow up out of this depression bullsh!t and has this infamous "teen angst" crap you all love to throw at me.

Then why are you still coming here? Masochistic tendencies? If you know well enough the reaction a piece like this will engender amongst us, why on earth would you bother with it in the first place, let along bitch about the results?

I just wanted to see if my predictions were correct that the majority of replies would be negative as all hell with kind, sensible CC in the minority. And my predictions were correct.

This is definitely my last time I visit here. This forum has done nothing for me except make me feel horrible about myself and deepen my misanthropy. I hope I never meet any of you or people alike because I never suspected people out there to be so horrid and heartless. Yes there are the kind ones and I can't express how grateful I am for you being sensible but the majority of you I classify as horrible people that like to kick people when they're down to try and get them to stand up. I showed many people what gets posted on here and they can't believe it. This forum is also the reason I got out of technology because it does something to human hearts. I've noticied that all techys are alike: oblivious to human feeling and only see the science of things, disregarding consideration for others entirely. I don't want to know people like that.

So I'm done here and I know you're all glad (especially MacBaine) so you can all flame me into the ATOT Teen Angst History Manual of Things Not To Post Or Do.

Happy Easter.

Yes, techy's can be heartless and cruel. However, I would be willing to bet that a large number of people here (myself included sometimes) debate in only semi-seriousness, and don't take anything we read here seriously. You need to chill out. BTW, i bet you won't be so mad with the techy's adn the technology they produce when that biog asterioud heads towards earth and the techys blow it up or you grow a tumor the size of Uranus and those same techys save you life.

Grow up and don't let others influence you so much if you don't like it.

 

[bigalt]

Originally posted by: BlackJesus03

Yes, techy's can be heartless and cruel. However, I would be willing to bet that a large number of people here (myself included sometimes) debate in only semi-seriousness, and don't take anything we read here seriously. You need to chill out. BTW, i bet you won't be so mad with the techy's adn the technology they produce when that biog asterioud heads towards earth and the techys blow it up or you grow a tumor the size of Uranus and those same techys save you life.

Grow up and don't let others influence you so much if you don't like it.

the asterioud is going to be so afraid of unbridled criticism that it will turn around.

 

[BlackJesus03]

And bad spelling:beer:

 

[brigden]

I'm going to skip the essay and assume you're ugly, akward, and unpopular.