Essay I wrote for not attending senior prom...

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Legendary

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Jan 22, 2002
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Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: Kauru
Your writing ability leaves MUCH to be desired. It sounds like you just used a thesaurus throughout the entire thing--it's absolutely abysmal. First, I'd work on you writing, then I'd work on your social skills.
How do you know what he used? Did you ever think that he might have the ability to write good, and is not lacking in grammar skills like many people on here? He's a good writer. Let's see you do better.
Admit that you are defending him because you feel the same. Social outcasts are usually elitests and this is no exception.
Yes, because we see the normal people doing their stuff and wonder WTF they think is so great about it. Those of us who are emotionally balanced eventually realized we needed to outcast ourselves, because trying to live like everyone else just wasn't working.

So are you equating the "normal" people with being emotionally unbalanced?
You're quite a tool if you are - how presumptuous of you to think you know/have the ability to 1. classify what "normal" people are 2. generalize "normal" people 3. believe yourself to be correct.
 

Cerb

Elite Member
Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: Legendary
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: Kauru
Your writing ability leaves MUCH to be desired. It sounds like you just used a thesaurus throughout the entire thing--it's absolutely abysmal. First, I'd work on you writing, then I'd work on your social skills.
How do you know what he used? Did you ever think that he might have the ability to write good, and is not lacking in grammar skills like many people on here? He's a good writer. Let's see you do better.
Admit that you are defending him because you feel the same. Social outcasts are usually elitests and this is no exception.
Yes, because we see the normal people doing their stuff and wonder WTF they think is so great about it. Those of us who are emotionally balanced eventually realized we needed to outcast ourselves, because trying to live like everyone else just wasn't working.

So are you equating the "normal" people with being emotionally unbalanced?
You're quite a tool if you are - how presumptuous of you to think you know/have the ability to 1. classify what "normal" people are 2. generalize "normal" people 3. believe yourself to be correct.
No, I'm pointing out that those people I know well who are emotionally balanced, including myself, figured this out with relative ease. Those that aren't, didn't, and figured it out the hard way.
You might want to cut down on making assumptions.
As far as classifying normal: Anyone within a standard deviation or two of average social activities--IE, at least 70% of people out there. Some of just aren't wired the same way.
 

MrDudeMan

Lifer
Jan 15, 2001
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Originally posted by: Cerb

No, I'm pointing out that those people I know well who are emotionally balanced, including myself, figured this out with relative ease. Those that aren't, didn't, and figured it out the hard way.
You might want to cut down on making assumptions.

you might want to rethink your arguement because it seems directionless and pointless. nice try on being rebellious, but it isnt working. grow a pair, get some friends, and hopefully you will become more normal.
 

Jeff7181

Lifer
Aug 21, 2002
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I read the first page of that, and my only comment is that the OP might consider counceling.
 

Legendary

Diamond Member
Jan 22, 2002
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Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: Legendary
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: Kauru
Your writing ability leaves MUCH to be desired. It sounds like you just used a thesaurus throughout the entire thing--it's absolutely abysmal. First, I'd work on you writing, then I'd work on your social skills.
How do you know what he used? Did you ever think that he might have the ability to write good, and is not lacking in grammar skills like many people on here? He's a good writer. Let's see you do better.
Admit that you are defending him because you feel the same. Social outcasts are usually elitests and this is no exception.
Yes, because we see the normal people doing their stuff and wonder WTF they think is so great about it. Those of us who are emotionally balanced eventually realized we needed to outcast ourselves, because trying to live like everyone else just wasn't working.

So are you equating the "normal" people with being emotionally unbalanced?
You're quite a tool if you are - how presumptuous of you to think you know/have the ability to 1. classify what "normal" people are 2. generalize "normal" people 3. believe yourself to be correct.
No, I'm pointing out that those people I know well who are emotionally balanced, including myself, figured this out with relative ease. Those that aren't, didn't, and figured it out the hard way.
You might want to cut down on making assumptions.
As far as classifying normal: Anyone within a standard deviation or two of average social activities--IE, at least 70% of people out there. Some of just aren't wired the same way.

Oh man have you ever seen the Goth episode of South Park? link
If not, you should, because what you just wrote reminded me of it.
Edit: Oh wait, or do you not watch south park because the conformists like myself watch it?
 

FleshLight

Diamond Member
Mar 18, 2004
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Oh noes! I'm going to Promenade this year! Should I kill myself for un-transcendental activity?
 

Cerb

Elite Member
Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: Cerb

No, I'm pointing out that those people I know well who are emotionally balanced, including myself, figured this out with relative ease. Those that aren't, didn't, and figured it out the hard way.
You might want to cut down on making assumptions.
you might want to rethink your arguement because it seems directionless and pointless. nice try on being rebellious, but it isnt working. grow a pair, get some friends, and hopefully you will become more normal.
Got friends. Some of them happen to be strange. I'm me; I've gotten the genetics and parenting to be a perfectly fine geek . I don't see the world like many people I know do, and don't do or take actions the same way. I had enough of trying not to be that in middle school and early high school. I figured out pretty quick that it just doesn't work. Trying to fit in anywhere just drains me completely. I have many acquaintences and a few friends--and that's fine by me. My life has not gone like anyone else's that I know, so it's not a big suprise I see my environments differently.

My argument kinda does look directionless. Sorry, but I haven't read up on any of this or anything. It's from seeing those around me, and how their lives have gone and are going.
 

Cerb

Elite Member
Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: FleshLight
Oh noes! I'm going to Promenade this year! Should I kill myself for un-transcendental activity?
No, you should immediately go to a monestary and live out your days in peace!:evil:

edit: devilguy looks more appropriate than big smile
 

Cerb

Elite Member
Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: Legendary
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: Legendary
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: Kauru
Your writing ability leaves MUCH to be desired. It sounds like you just used a thesaurus throughout the entire thing--it's absolutely abysmal. First, I'd work on you writing, then I'd work on your social skills.
How do you know what he used? Did you ever think that he might have the ability to write good, and is not lacking in grammar skills like many people on here? He's a good writer. Let's see you do better.
Admit that you are defending him because you feel the same. Social outcasts are usually elitests and this is no exception.
Yes, because we see the normal people doing their stuff and wonder WTF they think is so great about it. Those of us who are emotionally balanced eventually realized we needed to outcast ourselves, because trying to live like everyone else just wasn't working.

So are you equating the "normal" people with being emotionally unbalanced?
You're quite a tool if you are - how presumptuous of you to think you know/have the ability to 1. classify what "normal" people are 2. generalize "normal" people 3. believe yourself to be correct.
No, I'm pointing out that those people I know well who are emotionally balanced, including myself, figured this out with relative ease. Those that aren't, didn't, and figured it out the hard way.
You might want to cut down on making assumptions.
As far as classifying normal: Anyone within a standard deviation or two of average social activities--IE, at least 70% of people out there. Some of just aren't wired the same way.

Oh man have you ever seen the Goth episode of South Park? link
If not, you should, because what you just wrote reminded me of it.
Edit: Oh wait, or do you not watch south park because the conformists like myself watch it?
Yes, I have seen it--how could I not watch South Park (OK, I admit the recent Passion one was somewhat lame--and it was so close to being awesome, too)?.
 

dangereuxjeux

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Feb 17, 2003
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I'm not going to critique your feelings, those are yours. You may think you're alone in them, but you're not.

Your writing, however, is a big problem. Your essay reads a lot like a bad college admissions essay. You use way too many big words (often in the wrong situations) and convoluted sentence structure, all the while tossing out any good grammar you had ever possessed. If you really want to become a good writer, you should stop trying to use this unnatural style in order to prove to the reader you know what you're talking about. If you are writing about something meaningful, AND in a style that isn't so desperately elitist and forced, they will be convinced. When four words will work beautifully, don't use thirty-five. Only use such long and drawn-on statements when they are really describing something that can't be done in anything shorter. "They just don't understand" doesn't warrant multiple paragraphs unless you aren't just repeating it, but actually elaborating. It takes a great deal of skill to truly write the sort of long, virtuoso prose for which you seem to be aiming, and you haven't developed that yet.

Go read some good books, and see what you're missing. They'll teach you way more than that thesarus and English class ever will.
 

gflores

Senior member
Jul 10, 2003
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I came in late again...

Wow, it's amazing how heartless some people can be. Man, this kid just shared his feelings with everyone here and you guys just critiqued every tiny thing he said. Sure, I know you guys were being honest, but as mature adults, I'm sure you guys have better things to say than, "What a loser." Only found a few defending the guy, and the rest blasted him away. I read it and I enjoyed reading it. I enjoyed his writing, I'm not sure if it's great or anything, but frankly I don't care, because that's not his point.

You have to understand that Prom is not for everyone and that you aren't in his shoes. I didn't go to my Senior Prom, but I went to my Junior and Senior Homecoming Dance. I very much disliked it the first time and only went my senior year because a friend of mine asked me out. I knew that Prom was going to be more of the same and that I wouldn't enjoy it (and others would love it). It was just not for me. It's not something you'll have fun at, but apparantly everyone wants you to be interested in it. I spent the night at a friend's house and completely forgot about prom. I never went to prom and I'm perfectly happy by it. Under the right circumstances, I believe it's alright to miss out.

Anyway, later idNut and good luck with life.

edit: grammar corrections
 

flexy

Diamond Member
Sep 28, 2001
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I didnt read that - why should i ?

Just one hint: I hope that ONCE you are older you do NOT look back at your best time, when you were young and a teen and think:
"MAN ! i was so stupid....i threw away the best years of my life ! You will NOT have a second senior prom, NOR wil you (very likely) be able to travel back in time in the future and re-live what you missed/what you miss NOW.

And...honestly..i do not THINK that how you act and think you 're doing by choice (do you ?) - is it really your choice instead of having fun sitting at home and writing poetry or reading ? Dont also make the mistake and project faults at others...eg. the society.....society/the others will ALWAYS 'only' be how *you* see 'em (depending on your mood)....and (i know this may take to actually realize) the only thing which can actively move somthig and CHANGE (which includes all your surroundigns as well because your views can change) is *yourself*.

Yourself -> your view of the others -> others who see you ...etc...etc....
 

flexy

Diamond Member
Sep 28, 2001
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This is definitely my last time I visit here. [...]

Happy Easter.

If you would stand, with open eyes, in real life, you would KNOW that SOME (maybe many) people are a$$holes. SOME are also incredible stupid, some are mean, some are this and some are THAT.

That's what's called LIFE...the real life and mix of different people "out there".

Now.your problem is that you generalize and (since a self-proclaimed 'anti social' <- AFAIK) can NOT do other than generalize. Because you are unable to deal with others nor are able to 'just wish away' things like stupid comments or other views as 'irrlevant'. "Irrelevant' in a sense that these other opinions EXIST - but no one forces you to deal with these opinions or fight them and change them so they fight your view. There wiill always be people with another view, with some extreme different, really stupid views (political, emotional, WHATEVER). I have my view and you have YOUR view.
So be it. Again..that's how it is.
I can spend my time arguing here (or somewhere else or in real life) seeking out this discrepancies and just engage in communication (which is an *NON* anti-social act...COMMUNICATION) and share/argue my views with others.

I can also just stay away from such discussions and just keep my opinion to msyelf...but (lack of others things to do and joy sharing opinions) i often do chose to share my opinions.
That you (i guess) left and (in addition) generalize all people here as heartless, and all techs as heartless too with anotehr generalization (which, btw, is wrong) just proves your in-ability and 'point' being anti-social. (Making the society ANTI versus you, who, in YOUR opinion thinks is right)

The point is only that you wont GAIN anything...you wont gain knowlegde or more ability to communicate...you even lose the possibility to share YOUR view with others. You just run away and generalize all (or the majority) as heartless bastards and retreat even more....you act exactly as you actually expect yourself to act giving yourself just *another* reason to be even more anti-social.

If i can give you ONE tip...and i dont even know whether you read this....then AT LEAST learn to accept that different views exist and d*mn STICK to you own opinion and don't run away if you see people not agreeing with it..you dont even need to go out in real life to do that.

Also..thinking about that whole thing now...you biggest problem might be to realize (some day) that other people actually can be a positive influence and can 'wake up' and change something in old ways and views - often its ONLY other people who are able to give a wake-up call.
(Related: Ability to reflect and see it from OTHER's people views. Only if you're able to refelext and 'transpose' your thinking into someone else's (with the different view) - only then you will be able to see the WHOLE picture, and not only your own. ANd then you can understand...and (as a result) argue better and give more substantial views on your own. You can NOT do that otherwise. If you just run away and lock yourself up....well...as said....wou wont gain anything, neither will the world around you (from you).


Geeeee i dont knowwhy i write all that sh!te....i must be tired
 

AznMaverick

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Apr 4, 2001
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i didn't go to senior prom, nothing wrong with it. i don't regret a thing, i actually am quite satisfied not going. it wasn't worth the 200-300 bux, and if it was anything like junior prom, i'd rather be at a movie theater with a hot girl.
 

gopunk

Lifer
Jul 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell

A lot of people on here are heartless. Just remember you are better than them, because you have a heart, which is quite evident in your writing. I respect and like your writing. I am a writer myself. All I can say is who cares what some of these people think. I don't think you should leave because of them. You're better than that. Just ignore them and remember there are some people on here that do have hearts and enjoyed your writings. I read your poetry section, and liked it very much.

you are a writer, and you found that piece to be high quality? umm no offense (seriously) but that was terrible. using words that are very rarely used, such as misanthropy, and putting it in bad run-on sentences is absolutely horrific. that doesnt even take into account the fact that a lot of it makes no sense. its like he is literally using MS thesaurus (sp?) on every word in there. im not a writer and i dont claim to be, but its easy to tell when something is well-written with sound points and this "paper" clearly has neither of those characteristics.

It doesn't matter if he's a "good" writer or not. The bottom line is that none of you should be judging him. At least he was honest about his life, and wrote something about it. How many of you can say you've done the same thing?

he came and asked for opinions, he never said he only wanted the sugar-coated ones. and he wasn't honest about his life, his tone of elitism is a lie and he knows it... but it makes him feel better about himself, to make a martyr of himself and think he's rejected because he sees the truth and goddammit everyone else is too scared or stupid to do the same

and yea the prose sucks, i don't know what the hell all the people that praised it have been reading...
 

gopunk

Lifer
Jul 7, 2001
29,239
2
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Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: Kauru
Your writing ability leaves MUCH to be desired. It sounds like you just used a thesaurus throughout the entire thing--it's absolutely abysmal. First, I'd work on you writing, then I'd work on your social skills.
How do you know what he used? Did you ever think that he might have the ability to write good, and is not lacking in grammar skills like many people on here? He's a good writer. Let's see you do better.
Admit that you are defending him because you feel the same. Social outcasts are usually elitests and this is no exception.
Yes, because we see the normal people doing their stuff and wonder WTF they think is so great about it. Those of us who are emotionally balanced eventually realized we needed to outcast ourselves, because trying to live like everyone else just wasn't working.

that may be true, but if you were really emotionally balanced, you wouldn't be writing an essay and whining about all of this
 

beer

Lifer
Jun 27, 2000
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1
0
I don't think he understands the concept of 'independent clauses.' His essay seems to lack them entirely.

Oh, and he called his fellow class mates 'infidels!' ROFL
 

Cerb

Elite Member
Aug 26, 2000
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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Cerb
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Tinkerhell
Originally posted by: Kauru
Your writing ability leaves MUCH to be desired. It sounds like you just used a thesaurus throughout the entire thing--it's absolutely abysmal. First, I'd work on you writing, then I'd work on your social skills.
How do you know what he used? Did you ever think that he might have the ability to write good, and is not lacking in grammar skills like many people on here? He's a good writer. Let's see you do better.
Admit that you are defending him because you feel the same. Social outcasts are usually elitests and this is no exception.
Yes, because we see the normal people doing their stuff and wonder WTF they think is so great about it. Those of us who are emotionally balanced eventually realized we needed to outcast ourselves, because trying to live like everyone else just wasn't working.

that may be true, but if you were really emotionally balanced, you wouldn't be writing an essay and whining about all of this
...and I'm not. I'm whining about pollen .
 
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