Esteban wont like me cheap guitars

PezRadar

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I have a black washburn d-100 .. sounds great.. couldnt reccomend it anymore.. sounded better then quadruple the price yamahas
 

KidViciou$

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i have the esteban guitar, pretty good for the price i paid. the thing about the esteban guitars is that you also get the instructional videos which are pretty good
 

McPhreak

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Originally posted by: PezRadar
I have a black washburn d-100 .. sounds great.. couldnt reccomend it anymore.. sounded better then quadruple the price yamahas

couldn't recommend it anymore

couldn't recommend it any more

sounds exactly the same, completely different meanings. In this case, I think you chose the wrong one.
 

cmccrkn

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Originally posted by: McPhreak
Originally posted by: PezRadar
I have a black washburn d-100 .. sounds great.. couldnt reccomend it anymore.. sounded better then quadruple the price yamahas

couldn't recommend it anymore

couldn't recommend it any more

sounds exactly the same, completely different meanings. In this case, I think you chose the wrong one.


From Webster:
usage Although both anymore and any more are found in written use, in the 20th century anymore is the more common styling. Anymore is regularly used in negative <no one can be natural anymore -- May Sarton>, interrogative <do you read much anymore?>, and conditional <if you do that anymore, I'll leave> contexts and in certain positive constructions <the Washingtonian is too sophisticated to believe anymore in solutions -- Russell Baker>. In many regions of the U.S. the use of anymore in sense 2 is quite common in positive constructions, especially in speech <everybody's cool anymore -- Bill White> <every time we leave the house anymore, I play a game called "Stump the Housebreaker" -- Erma Bombeck>. The positive use appears to have been of Midland origin, but it is now reported to be widespread in all speech areas of the U.S. except New England.
 

ondarkness

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Originally posted by: cmccrkn
Originally posted by: McPhreak
Originally posted by: PezRadar
I have a black washburn d-100 .. sounds great.. couldnt reccomend it anymore.. sounded better then quadruple the price yamahas

couldn't recommend it anymore

couldn't recommend it any more

sounds exactly the same, completely different meanings. In this case, I think you chose the wrong one.


From Webster:
usage Although both anymore and any more are found in written use, in the 20th century anymore is the more common styling. Anymore is regularly used in negative <no one can be natural anymore -- May Sarton>, interrogative <do you read much anymore?>, and conditional <if you do that anymore, I'll leave> contexts and in certain positive constructions <the Washingtonian is too sophisticated to believe anymore in solutions -- Russell Baker>. In many regions of the U.S. the use of anymore in sense 2 is quite common in positive constructions, especially in speech <everybody's cool anymore -- Bill White> <every time we leave the house anymore, I play a game called "Stump the Housebreaker" -- Erma Bombeck>. The positive use appears to have been of Midland origin, but it is now reported to be widespread in all speech areas of the U.S. except New England.
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what he said ^

 

osiris3mc

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Originally posted by: ondarkness
Originally posted by: cmccrkn
Originally posted by: McPhreak
Originally posted by: PezRadar
I have a black washburn d-100 .. sounds great.. couldnt reccomend it anymore.. sounded better then quadruple the price yamahas

couldn't recommend it anymore

couldn't recommend it any more

sounds exactly the same, completely different meanings. In this case, I think you chose the wrong one.


From Webster:
usage Although both anymore and any more are found in written use, in the 20th century anymore is the more common styling. Anymore is regularly used in negative <no one can be natural anymore -- May Sarton>, interrogative <do you read much anymore?>, and conditional <if you do that anymore, I'll leave> contexts and in certain positive constructions <the Washingtonian is too sophisticated to believe anymore in solutions -- Russell Baker>. In many regions of the U.S. the use of anymore in sense 2 is quite common in positive constructions, especially in speech <everybody's cool anymore -- Bill White> <every time we leave the house anymore, I play a game called "Stump the Housebreaker" -- Erma Bombeck>. The positive use appears to have been of Midland origin, but it is now reported to be widespread in all speech areas of the U.S. except New England.
--
what he said ^


I hate to quote the entire thing, but McPhreak certainly is a Phreak. Do you care to elaborate on your 'anymore' v. 'any more' paradigm?
 

McPhreak

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Originally posted by: osiris3mc
Originally posted by: ondarkness
Originally posted by: cmccrkn
Originally posted by: McPhreak
Originally posted by: PezRadar
I have a black washburn d-100 .. sounds great.. couldnt reccomend it anymore.. sounded better then quadruple the price yamahas

couldn't recommend it anymore

couldn't recommend it any more

sounds exactly the same, completely different meanings. In this case, I think you chose the wrong one.


From Webster:
usage Although both anymore and any more are found in written use, in the 20th century anymore is the more common styling. Anymore is regularly used in negative <no one can be natural anymore -- May Sarton>, interrogative <do you read much anymore?>, and conditional <if you do that anymore, I'll leave> contexts and in certain positive constructions <the Washingtonian is too sophisticated to believe anymore in solutions -- Russell Baker>. In many regions of the U.S. the use of anymore in sense 2 is quite common in positive constructions, especially in speech <everybody's cool anymore -- Bill White> <every time we leave the house anymore, I play a game called "Stump the Housebreaker" -- Erma Bombeck>. The positive use appears to have been of Midland origin, but it is now reported to be widespread in all speech areas of the U.S. except New England.
--
what he said ^


I hate to quote the entire thing, but McPhreak certainly is a Phreak. Do you care to elaborate on your 'anymore' v. 'any more' paradigm?

You guys have it all wrong. What Pez Radar was trying to say was that the guitar is so great, he couldn't recommend it any more highly (i.e any more). The way he has it written out, he's saying that he was recommending it at one time, but for some reason can no longer recommend it (i.e. anymore).

2 different meanings, not just 2 different spellings.

"No longer" = Anymore or Any more (i.e. "I don't like him anymore/any more")

"A greater quantity" = any more (i.e. do you have any more gas in your tank?")

That's all I was trying to say. Reading through it the first time got me confused.

edit: Enough of the English lesson though, I will shut up now so we can focus on the hot deal instead. Sorry to waste everyone's time.
 

Slickone

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Does anyone know anything about smaller scale guitars? I want to get a small one for my nephew maybe next year. He's 6 now.
The 1/2 scale's seem like they might be too lacking and I'm wondering if I should get it or go ahead and get the next size up. The $25 Dean JTJ Half Size doesn't have a truss rod. It know it's only $25, but would it be to frustrating to keep in tune to be worth even that? There's also the $32 Dean Playmate JTJ half size.
There are also 3/4 scale guitars aren't there?
And 7/8, such as the $60 Dean Playmate J.
Anyone know what scale this Rogue is?

I was also thinking about getting a 7/8 for myself to throw in the cab of my truck to take with me. Or maybe just a cheap full scale. I just don't want to travel with my Taylor.

Originally posted by: PezRadar
I have a black washburn d-100 .. sounds great.. couldnt reccomend it anymore.. sounded better then quadruple the price yamahas
I can't remember, does the Washburn D100 sound better than the $130 Jasmine (by Takamine), that has also been recommended on here?
Also there's the $60 Rogue RA-100D.
And a $100 Rogue Herringbone 12-String (good reviews). I've been thinking about getting a 12 string.
Anyone know about these?


BTW, McPhreak was exactly correct.
 

AUGrad

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Originally posted by: Slickone
Does anyone know anything about smaller scale guitars? I want to get a small one for my nephew maybe next year. He's 6 now.
The 1/2 scale's seem like they might be too lacking and I'm wondering if I should get it or go ahead and get the next size up. The $25 Dean JTJ Half Size doesn't have a truss rod. It know it's only $25, but would it be to frustrating to keep in tune to be worth even that? There's also the $32 Dean Playmate JTJ half size.
There are also 3/4 scale guitars aren't there?
And 7/8, such as the $60 Dean Playmate J.
Anyone know what scale this Rogue is?

I was also thinking about getting a 7/8 for myself to throw in the cab of my truck to take with me. Or maybe just a cheap full scale. I just don't want to travel with my Taylor.

Originally posted by: PezRadar
I have a black washburn d-100 .. sounds great.. couldnt reccomend it anymore.. sounded better then quadruple the price yamahas
I can't remember, does the Washburn D100 sound better than the $130 Jasmine (by Takamine), that has also been recommended on here?
Also there's the $60 Rogue RA-100D.
And a $100 Rogue Herringbone 12-String (good reviews). I've been thinking about getting a 12 string.
Anyone know about these?


BTW, McPhreak was exactly correct.



Be very careful with the small scale guitars. Most are junk: targeted at parents that don't play and are looking for the cheapest thing they can find to satisfy their kid's birthday/Christmas wish. A friend bought a $40 Wal-mart special for his daughter for Christmas a couple of years ago. No one in his family plays, so he just assumed that none of them were capable of making it sound good. When I went over to his house one day, he asked me to tune it. I couldn't. The tuners stunk, the frets were misaligned, and there were awful wolf tones from the soundbox. His daughter is now turned off of guitar playing. He'll be lucky to get $5 for it at a yard sale.

If you're shopping for yourself or your kid, go with a Larivee Parlor, Tacoma Papoose, or Baby Taylor if you can afford it. They sound great, and if you decide you no longer want/need it, you can get most of your money back on resale.

Since this is your nephew, not your own kid, so you won't beneift from resale. You may want to advise his parents on a proper instrument purchase (they'll be more involved in his learning and protective of the instrument if it's their cash), and buy him some nice accessories instead (capo, picks, stand, instructional videos, etc.).
 

shira

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Originally posted by: KidViciou$
i have the esteban guitar, pretty good for the price i paid. the thing about the esteban guitars is that you also get the instructional videos which are pretty good


But "Esteban" himself seems like sort of a head case. What's his real name? Why does he seem so strange? I mean, the way he dresses, who is he trying to impersonate? Looks like Zorro without the sword.
 

JDub02

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I'm really tempted to try the Rogue 12-string. The reviews are really good ... and $100 isn't much to check it out given musician's friend 45 day return policy.
 

Slickone

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Originally posted by: AUGrad
Be very careful with the small scale guitars. Most are junk: targeted at parents that don't play and are looking for the cheapest thing they can find to satisfy their kid's birthday/Christmas wish. A friend bought a $40 Wal-mart special for his daughter for Christmas a couple of years ago. No one in his family plays, so he just assumed that none of them were capable of making it sound good. When I went over to his house one day, he asked me to tune it. I couldn't. The tuners stunk, the frets were misaligned, and there were awful wolf tones from the soundbox. His daughter is now turned off of guitar playing. He'll be lucky to get $5 for it at a yard sale.

If you're shopping for yourself or your kid, go with a Larivee Parlor, Tacoma Papoose, or Baby Taylor if you can afford it. They sound great, and if you decide you no longer want/need it, you can get most of your money back on resale.

Since this is your nephew, not your own kid, so you won't beneift from resale. You may want to advise his parents on a proper instrument purchase (they'll be more involved in his learning and protective of the instrument if it's their cash), and buy him some nice accessories instead (capo, picks, stand, instructional videos, etc.).
Thanks, but those are much too expensive for him. I just need the cheapest one that can actually be tuned and doesn't sound terrible. Otherwise I won't buy it for him, and his parents surely won't. You don't think the Dean guitars are better than the ones Wal Mart sells? Surely the Rogue model is.

Originally posted by: JDub02
I'm really tempted to try the Rogue 12-string. The reviews are really good ... and $100 isn't much to check it out given musician's friend 45 day return policy.
Let us (or me) know if you do. There's one review of it on harmony central.
 

Kavikgold

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i went ahead and bought the washburn d100 acoustic guitar. with all the good reviews (i looked EVERYWHERE to make sure i wasnt getting a piece). i will let you guys know if it stands up to its hype. worst comes to worst, musician's friend has a killer 45 day return policy
 
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