Ethereum GPU mining?

[IEC]

Will Vega be worth it in comparison to Polaris? Either way, I'm preordering Vega.

I think it would be difficult for Vega to beat Polaris for mining purposes. It would certainly be better from a density perspective, but I doubt it will be better from a cost per card and efficiency per card basis.

Polaris cards can be brought down to around 110W drawn from the wall, each for 27MH/s+. They also were available for a long time under $170 for 4GB models and under $200 for 8GB models - oftentimes significantly lower. Vega would need to be over double the mining performance at its projected TDP to even get close to this efficiency, and would probably cost over double.

Not to mention I used to mine easily 10x as much ETH per month as I do now thanks to the "Ice Age"

 

[IEC]

Lol wow, ASRock went all-out on this one. Yes, that is *thirteen* PCI-e slots.

Spoiler

 

[thilanliyan]

I ran nicehash miner client, ethereum miner was there inside the program folder but doesn't show up on the nicehash client options, why is that?

Another thing I would like to ask, I'm using an ATX Z170 board which I got cheap last year when it was on sale. It has two PCI-E slots but doesn't support SLI. Currently I'm running one GTX1070, I wonder if I can add in RX470 4GB on the second slot to mine inside nicehash?

Yes, you can add another card for mining even if the board doesn't support SLI. Having both nV and AMD can work fine...I had 2x290s and a 1080 in one system recently and they worked, at least in Windows 10. Drivers might be a bit finicky though.

 

[Yakk]

I wanted to reply to this separately since many people who have mined out coins may have some concerns about the volatility of prices.

When you consider what happened to ETH shortly after the DAO hack (or worse, in Dec 2016), the current price fluctuations are of no great consequence. We had a "stable" price floor of around $120 less than a week ago, so I see no problem with ETH sitting at $160 now. Personally I wasn't expecting ETH to carry a price floor above $40 until after we went full PoS, so the current trends are . . . interesting indeed.

The main thing to remember is that Ethereum's value - and ETH along with it - are derived from the technology behind the entire concept. ETH is not meant to be a hypecoin. If people push its value higher than can be presently justified by the level of tech and support behind Ethereum, then it will inevitably drop. $204 (or higher) for ETH in May of 2017 just didn't make a lot of sense. Individual personalities (whales etc) may cause fluctuation around a certain point, but in the end, they can only push the value so low before people interested in the tech behind Ethereum pour their money in to buy at discounted prices.

Sure, it might trade at $325-$350 in June 2017, but why should it go up now?

It also seems like nearly every other crypto is getting bashed today. Monero, Stellar, and Ripple are doing okay-ish. BTC is down by quite a bit. Which is weird, since BTC SHOULD be experiencing gains right now (segwit etc)

Pretty much all coins took a beating for the weekend, but are getting back to normal. Just profit locking like I mentioned a few days ago.

Etherium pricing looks very healthy so far. We need volatility in prices to keep interest in trading and price increases. The underlying tech is good to keep a more steady floor price. The trading bots do create more extreme price fluctuations, both highs and corrections which again also works to keep general trader interest. It may scare some people, but IMHO it's a good sign at this point in its lifetime.

BTC is a lot more worrisome to me... Percentage wise it is not keeping pace with the smaller coins at all, and it's infrastructure is getting more and more fragile as it gets over extended. The obstinance to not reward full node operators is dragging it down considerably.

 

[Yakk]

Lol wow, ASRock went all-out on this one. Yes, that is *thirteen* PCI-e slots.

Spoiler

LoL... Asrock would need to be able to power those slots to cover warranty... At 13x 75w... Manufacturer can't depend on powered risers.

 

[IEC]

LoL... Asrock would need to be able to power those slots to cover warranty... At 13x 75w... Manufacturer can't depend on powered risers.

2x molex 12V aux connectors for the PCI-e slots, and miners use powered risers for airflow purposes anyways. I think it'll be fine.

The better question is, what kind of OS and config are they running that allows 13 to be used at once? Must be linux of some flavor...

 

[dajeepster]

Lol wow, ASRock went all-out on this one. Yes, that is *thirteen* PCI-e slots.

Spoiler

that just screams bad photoshop job to me.

 

[IEC]

that just screams bad photoshop job to me.

It's taken directly from Asrock's site:
http://www.asrock.com/news/index.asp?ID=3625

 

[Yakk]

that just screams bad photoshop job to me.

It world, except Asrock has a history of catering to the mining market.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Pretty much all coins took a beating for the weekend, but are getting back to normal. Just profit locking like I mentioned a few days ago.

Some have recovered, some have not . . .

Etherium pricing looks very healthy so far.

For the most part. I think it's on trend to start hitting new highs next month, given what's coming ahead.

BTC is a lot more worrisome to me... Percentage wise it is not keeping pace with the smaller coins at all, and it's infrastructure is getting more and more fragile as it gets over extended. The obstinance to not reward full node operators is dragging it down considerably.

Didn't they go over 80% consensus on segwith + 2M blocks a few days ago?

http://www.altcointoday.com/bitcoin-reaches-consensus-to-initiate-segwit-and-2mb-blocks/

I would think that would solve the scaling issues at least. It doesn't solve the issue of Bitcoin having very little value as a platform compared to, you know, Ethereum.

Despite all that, BTC still hasn't recovered from the beating it took over the weekend. It's still down around $2k-$2.1k which was quite a hit.

 

[casiofx]

Yes, you can add another card for mining even if the board doesn't support SLI. Having both nV and AMD can work fine...I had 2x290s and a 1080 in one system recently and they worked, at least in Windows 10. Drivers might be a bit finicky though.

I just remember my sister had a 1050Ti, so I yanked her card off when she went for work and put it inside my system to test. It works flawlessly including msi afterburner.

 

[dajeepster]

It's taken directly from Asrock's site:
http://www.asrock.com/news/index.asp?ID=3625

holy shit.. it is there... still looks like a bad photoshop job. I think someone in the business department said "let's see if we can drum up interest for this... we'll worry about the engineering and manufacturing feasibility later".. would love to see some hi-res pics from computex that they are allegedly showing this there.

 

[Yakk]

Didn't they go over 80% consensus on segwith + 2M blocks a few days ago?

http://www.altcointoday.com/bitcoin-reaches-consensus-to-initiate-segwit-and-2mb-blocks/

I would think that would solve the scaling issues at least. It doesn't solve the issue of Bitcoin having very little value as a platform compared to, you know, Ethereum.

Despite all that, BTC still hasn't recovered from the beating it took over the weekend. It's still down around $2k-$2.1k which was quite a hit.

Segwith is a bandaid solution, and not the best one either, just the easiest to agree on without upsetting too many market movers. Still not in BTC's overall long term best interest.

Btc is not keeping place with the lesser coins, which is actually not good for the market liquidity and stability overall.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Btc is not keeping place with the lesser coins, which is actually not good for the market liquidity and stability overall.

Eventually all that Bitcoin money is going to pour into the alts, solving the problem of Bitcoin. It may take awhile though.

 

[VeryCharBroiled]

LoL... Asrock would need to be able to power those slots to cover warranty... At 13x 75w... Manufacturer can't depend on powered risers.

PCIe 1x slots are only rated for 25 watts , its 16x that are 75 watts. from what i remember of the standards. so 375 watts for twelve 1x and one 16x. thats just to cover the official specs for all those slots, miners will be on powered risers as IEC mentioned anyway.

The better question is, what kind of OS and config are they running that allows 13 to be used at once? Must be linux of some flavor...

yeah i would love to see screenshots of 13 cards mining. 8 cards seems easy enough, smOS (linux based) and win10 enterprise ltsb work with the pandaminers 8 cards, but 13?

 

[thilanliyan]

Anyone mining eth with Claymore on Ethermine.org? The actual hashrate I'm getting is ~10% lower than what is being reported by the miner. Would like to figure out where the discrepency lies.

 

[Avalon]

Having a bit of trouble with a 2x GPU rig in Win10. Latest drivers, using Claymore v9.4, crossfire diasbled. I've got an RX480 and RX580 8GB cards installed. My RX480 is getting 27Mh/s, but the RX580 is only getting 19Mh/s.

I checked in GPU-Z and it appears the memory controller load on my RX480 is in the 90s, but the RX580 is pegged at 63%. Since this is a very memory intensive algorithm, I'm thinking the issue lies there somehow. I'm running the RX580 at stock speeds. Any thoughts? Not using any GPU altering commands in the command line for Claymore.

*Edit*
Hmm...it might be the new RX580. I just added it today. Removed the RX480 and the RX580 was still underperforming. Moved it to the PCI-e slot the RX480 was in, and no difference. I've got another couple RX580s coming in next week, so guess I'll know for sure then. If I plug one of those in, and they work fine, then this one is a dud. That'd be a bummer.

 

[ozzy702]

Anyone using the newer 1060's with the faster GDDR5? Looks like they can hit pretty insane speeds. Wondering what it will hash.

 

[Madpacket]

Anyone mining eth with Claymore on Ethermine.org? The actual hashrate I'm getting is ~10% lower than what is being reported by the miner. Would like to figure out where the discrepency lies.

Yeah there's something reporting wrong but I've compared to other pools (Nanopool) and haven't noticed much of a difference. Have you compared to other pools and actual payouts?

 

[Madpacket]

Anyone using the newer 1060's with the faster GDDR5? Looks like they can hit pretty insane speeds. Wondering what it will hash.

No I haven't. Do you have any NewEgg links to specific cards with faster memory? I'll pick one up to test.

 

[Madpacket]

Eventually all that Bitcoin money is going to pour into the alts, solving the problem of Bitcoin. It may take awhile though.

I suspect Bitcoin isn't going anywhere anytime soon and will stay the market leader for digital gold "storage". 2MB blocks will alleviate a ton of today's issues but it's a temporary band-aid. I don't know much about SegWit but anything that can help with scaling without drastically changing the fundamentals is good in my view.

That being said outside first market mover advantage Bitcoin has nothing really compelling coming up. Comparing Ethereum to Bitcoin (as a platform) is like comparing the Internet before Internet Browsers existed.

 

[Madpacket]

Anyone mining on a 1080 Ti?

 

[Madpacket]

PCIe 1x slots are only rated for 25 watts , its 16x that are 75 watts. from what i remember of the standards. so 375 watts for twelve 1x and one 16x. thats just to cover the official specs for all those slots, miners will be on powered risers as IEC mentioned anyway.



yeah i would love to see screenshots of 13 cards mining. 8 cards seems easy enough, smOS (linux based) and win10 enterprise ltsb work with the pandaminers 8 cards, but 13?

13 cards is going to be tough unless some trickery with memory mapped IO is taking place. That being said I want to buy these to consolidate my 480's. It's pretty easy to combine multiple power supplies. I also bought a new metal rack that works well for zip tying cards to. If I could combine 26 cards to per rack that would be amazing.

 

[IEC]

13 cards is going to be tough unless some trickery with memory mapped IO is taking place. That being said I want to buy these to consolidate my 480's. It's pretty easy to combine multiple power supplies. I also bought a new metal rack that works well for zip tying cards to. If I could combine 26 cards to per rack that would be amazing.

If it's not too much trouble I would do the exact same. Just "rackmount" all my cards, 13 per board...

 

[thilanliyan]

Yeah there's something reporting wrong but I've compared to other pools (Nanopool) and haven't noticed much of a difference. Have you compared to other pools and actual payouts?

So you're also seeing about 10% less pool side?