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[DHT]Osiris

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Welp, just cashed out of Coinbase. Still mining to it, but I have a feeling a downturn is about to hit and I'd rather not be holding one of the rotten apples when it happens. If it spins up I might go for another run upward but I have a funny feeling it's about to crater hard, given all the stupidity w/Coinbase, random companies renaming themselves to 'something blockchain something something', and the news bits about idiots taking out second mortgages and crap.
 

DrMrLordX

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First, I totally understand the paranoia regarding stuff like the Trezor and Ledger S. Offline paper wallet would probably be the go-to there.

Personally I do not find it onerous to keep the blockchain updated, but then I have a 1 Gbps connection at home so I am biased. Granted I only get about 200Mbps of it thanks to spotty wifi but whatever. All I want for is storage, just right now I do not feel the need to run a full node.

Welp, just cashed out of Coinbase. Still mining to it, but I have a feeling a downturn is about to hit and I'd rather not be holding one of the rotten apples when it happens. If it spins up I might go for another run upward but I have a funny feeling it's about to crater hard, given all the stupidity w/Coinbase, random companies renaming themselves to 'something blockchain something something', and the news bits about idiots taking out second mortgages and crap.

I feel ya man. Smart money saw that jump from the $400-ish range up past $600 and bailed unless they were buying in that range. I think ETH may have gone from being undervalued to overvalued thanks to the cash rush that came this month. We haven't even hit FFG PoS yet! Anyway good job to anyone who sold at over $800.
 

[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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I feel ya man. Smart money saw that jump from the $400-ish range up past $600 and bailed unless they were buying in that range. I think ETH may have gone from being undervalued to overvalued thanks to the cash rush that came this month. We haven't even hit FFG PoS yet! Anyway good job to anyone who sold at over $800.
I didn't just sell off Eth, hit BTC and some BCH I got 'donated' as well. All in all I'm happy. Might be eating my hat later if BTC goes to friggin 50k or something, but I've already beat myself up for selling ~1BTC back when it was 1400, not gonna do that twice.

I've already made well over my original 'investment' into this little adventure (and I've got a buncha 1080ti's to do something with), so everything else is just pizza money as far as I'm concerned.
 

IEC

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I didn't just sell off Eth, hit BTC and some BCH I got 'donated' as well. All in all I'm happy. Might be eating my hat later if BTC goes to friggin 50k or something, but I've already beat myself up for selling ~1BTC back when it was 1400, not gonna do that twice.

I've already made well over my original 'investment' into this little adventure (and I've got a buncha 1080ti's to do something with), so everything else is just pizza money as far as I'm concerned.

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wege12

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First, I totally understand the paranoia regarding stuff like the Trezor and Ledger S. Offline paper wallet would probably be the go-to there.

Personally I do not find it onerous to keep the blockchain updated, but then I have a 1 Gbps connection at home so I am biased. Granted I only get about 200Mbps of it thanks to spotty wifi but whatever. All I want for is storage, just right now I do not feel the need to run a full node.



I feel ya man. Smart money saw that jump from the $400-ish range up past $600 and bailed unless they were buying in that range. I think ETH may have gone from being undervalued to overvalued thanks to the cash rush that came this month. We haven't even hit FFG PoS yet! Anyway good job to anyone who sold at over $800.

I just bought a ledger nano s thinking it was the most secure way to store my crypto. Is this not true anymore?
 

DrMrLordX

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Nobody has hacked a Ledger Nano S yet that I know of. Only the Trezor.

It's generally a more . . . friendly way to do cold storage than a paper wallet in a safe deposit box.
 
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IEC

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Welp, just cashed out of Coinbase. Still mining to it, but I have a feeling a downturn is about to hit and I'd rather not be holding one of the rotten apples when it happens. If it spins up I might go for another run upward but I have a funny feeling it's about to crater hard, given all the stupidity w/Coinbase, random companies renaming themselves to 'something blockchain something something', and the news bits about idiots taking out second mortgages and crap.

Well, you win for timing the correction. 20% down and falling lol!
 

Madpacket

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I just bought a ledger nano s thinking it was the most secure way to store my crypto. Is this not true anymore?

I think people are getting confused here. The Trezor was only physically hacked by a computer security expert who had the device in their hands. The method used to capture the data between device and host has been fixed AFAIK.

There's no difference between a wallet generated by MIST browser and an wallet generated by a Ledger or Trezor. The same algorithm to generate the key pair is used AFAIK and is also the reason you can use MEW to interact with and restore from seed.

In other words, you have the best of both world of with a Ledger as you're forced to create a seed file (paper wallet) and you have the hardware protections of the private key on the device itself if you ever need to send funds.

If someone gets their hands on your seed file / paper wallet its game over. If they get their hands physically on your Ledger or you lose the device somehow, you can still restore from seed elsewhere (I recommend a backup Trezor/Ledger for this purpose but you can use MyEtherWallet or other applications).
 
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Charlie22911

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Decided to troubleshoot my Ethereum Wallet sync issue again, this is getting a bit silly. The system I am syncing on has 8GB RAM and it is using all of it.
From what I’ve learned in my google searches this is a fairly common issue, as an enthusiast I want to run a node For BTC and ETH but it seems that is impossible without 16GB+ RAM and a dedicated 1TB plus SSD. This undermines the spirit of crypto IMO and needs to be fixed...

I’ve got an Apollo Lake NUC with 2TB HDD and 8GB ram dedicated to the task since I have no other use for it. Anyone else running a dedicated node?
 

DrMrLordX

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Why would you need an SSD instead of an HDD to run a full node? I have heard about geth chewing up memory before (which was a problem for people trying to run geth on a pi) but otherwise . . .
 

Charlie22911

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One of the recommendations I saw a bit deeper the weeds of my google searching. Doesn’t seem too far fetched, my HDD is being thrashed quite badly; probably due to paging but my point is the same.

I’ll likely just sync on my main rig and copy the chain data over.
 

DrMrLordX

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How slow is the HDD? 60-70 Mbps is not too much to ask for sequential write, which is what chaindata downloading should amount to. I think? I don't know how many bps you can pull through your network connection updating the blockchain. But it looks like people are having no problems using an HDD system to sync the chain at least as of geth 1.7.x and later. Unless later versions screwed up something.

I should just break down, get myself a newer WD drive, and start running a full node on it, to see how well it works.
 

Charlie22911

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Task manager (for what it’s worth) shows disk usage at a constant 100% with speeds peaking at around 10mbps; most of it appears to be random accesses. Average response time stat can range anywhere between 50-1000ms, quite the snail.

I’ve finally got it syncing though, I disabled superfetch on a hunch; it’s got less than 100 blocks to go now.
 

DrMrLordX

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Huh. I don't see why random access would be a thing with syncing the blockchain. It's one big ugly download. That was a common complaint from HDD users with earlier versions of geth.
 

Charlie22911

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Right at 4GB ram used, still heavy random accesses; drive is clearly seeking heavily.
I don’t think it’s because of paging now. Chain still isn’t downloading, I’m around 80 blocks shy with the chain state number going up. Very frustrating.
I’m gonna let it sit for the night and see what it does. If I find a workaround I’ll be sure to document it to possibly help others, however wishful that line of thought may be.

Comcast 150mbit by the way, shouldn’t be that difficult. The bitcoin block chain comes in quickly enough.
 

VeryCharBroiled

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i thought the mist/geth wallet client did a lot of i/o because it had to verify things as it went and it wound up pulling a lot of data from previous blocks to do that. something like that anyway. at least thats what i understand but that was a while ago. i know it sure hammered my ssd when i used the mist/geth wallet from maybe 6 months ago and i have 12 gb ram.

i use my trezor with myetherwallet now, i gave up on having the full eth blockchain as i had way too many issues syncing. maybe its better now. or perhaps it just needs tweaking via command line flags to prevent hammering the ssd/hd.. dunno, but i gave up on it. i just keep the full btc blockchain now.
 
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Hitman928

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Right at 4GB ram used, still heavy random accesses; drive is clearly seeking heavily.
I don’t think it’s because of paging now. Chain still isn’t downloading, I’m around 80 blocks shy with the chain state number going up. Very frustrating.
I’m gonna let it sit for the night and see what it does. If I find a workaround I’ll be sure to document it to possibly help others, however wishful that line of thought may be.

Comcast 150mbit by the way, shouldn’t be that difficult. The bitcoin block chain comes in quickly enough.

I haven't been following the thread, are you trying to run geth through the command line tools?
 

IntelUser2000

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Why would you need an SSD instead of an HDD to run a full node? I have heard about geth chewing up memory before (which was a problem for people trying to run geth on a pi) but otherwise . . .

It did seem based on my limited experience with it an SSD setup was syncing quite a bit faster than HDD setup.
 

Charlie22911

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I haven't been following the thread, are you trying to run geth through the command line tools?

I’m just launching the Ethereum Wallet main binary as any normal user would. Trying to search google for a fix is just met with scores of folks with similar issues, signal to noise is a nightmare in that regard.
I see people suggesting launching geth with flags set; that isn’t working either. Disabling superfetch has mitigated ram issues though, I’ll try syncing on my main rig and copying over next. I think it’s simply too demanding of spinning rust at this point.
 

fleshconsumed

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FYI for security reasons I run my BTC and ETH wallets inside virtual machines. And I definitely need SSD for ETH wallet. In Task Manager I see read speeds of 100MB/s, and on Mechanical HDD ETH wallet would never sync completely. Granted Virtual Machine layer abstraction puts additional strain on storage medium, but I just can't see ETH doing well when it demands 100MB/s read speeds on routine basis. Regarding RAM usage, I have seen ETH wallet take absurd amounts of RAM as well, it is variable, but I have had to set my RAM size to 16GB for ETH virtual machine.

So yeah, ETH is very demanding. BTC is relatively lightweight in this regard, but if you want to run full ETH wallet, you need plenty of RAM and an SSD at this point.
 

IntelUser2000

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It seems to be a big problem with Mist and Geth. The software is still in the beta stage so there's a lot of work to do.

Last year when I playing with Mist, it took a long time, but it at least completed. Now, it just doesn't get finished. Even the developers seem to acknowledge the issue.
 
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