Ethereum GPU mining?

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EightySix Four

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I wouldn't worry. This is typical behaviour of malware / AV. Malware authors did the same with Bitcoin mining where they pack the software along with malware. Malware authors are smart in that they simply pack working mining apps along with the malware so Antivirus companies write signatures and the mining app is flagged.

So 99% chance this is a false positive. This is actually great news, it means Malware authors are bothered enough to pack in Claymore to earn ether I guess ethereum really is starting to take hold haha.

Do you mind listing what A/V software flagged it?

Yeah, wasn't worried about it being a virus - was more concerned about it stopping the process and quarantining the files last night.

Windows Defender.
 

codyray10

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No worries, we're all here to help.

I recommend downloading Claymore miner instead of ethminer, it's faster and easier to setup, more stable, and generally as much or more (coins) as etheminer.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.0

Most instruction on what you need to do to get started is listed there but I'll attempt to clear things up.

1. Pick an mining pool (I recommend ethermine for the lack of fees but nanopool is also a decent alternative).

2. Download and extract the Claymore files to a folder. Edit the file "start.bat" and add the following:

setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100

EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool us1.ethermine.org:4444 -ewal "mining address, the address generated by MyEtherWallet".NameOfMiner -epsw x

Paste in your wallet address between the quotes and keep the dot between it and the name of the miner. This will show up on ethermine.org (your pooled mining pool).

Launch start.bat (create a shortcut of the batch file to your desktop, rename it to Claymore_start or whatever you want).

At ethermine.org paste in your wallet address in the filed located at the top right of the page, this will list for you stats about your miner (hashing speeds, etc).

I wrote this very quickly from memory and have to run but if you have any questions let us know. That's really it!

Thanks for taking the time providing the link and writeup. I will check this out later on
 

DrMrLordX

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ah, gotcha.

one of my 390 is in the daily driver PC im typing on and in a nzxt h2 case with decent-but-not-great airflow so it hits 70C (vrms @ 79C) @ 43% fan. house is climate controlled to 71F (gotta love geothermal hvac).

the other 390 and the 380 are free air suspended via zipties and extenders from a workbench shelf in the basement and run very low 70sC @ 45ish% (unsure of vrms as its ubuntu on that rig) in the unfinished basement which is 65F more or less.

the basement rig dual mines eth and dcr with claymore, the daily driver does not, which is why the basement rig runs pretty much same temps as the desktop. the basement rig ran 65C @ 42-43% eth only as I recall.

happiness is lots of space to spread the heat out heh.

EDIT: the two 390s are sapphire nitros each with 3 80mm fans. the 380 is a sapphire nitro 380itx with a single 92mm. all are pretty quiet at < 50% fan. WAF factor (primarily noise) was big in deciding to go with sapphires, plus in my btc days they were problem free.

Understood. In my case, my 290 and 390 both started overheat after doing time in an open-air setting mining on Linux. The rig was sitting in a spot where a dead zone was forming outside of the 390s fans (it's an MSI with the dual-fan configuration), making it run stupid hot. It started failing and/or pulling wayyyy too much power for its clockspeed/voltage levels, so I hacked the BIOS to pull less current. Now it's behaving like its old self again, well, almost. I did the same with the 290, but it's still running much hotter than it should, hence my suspicion that the TIM job is drying/cracking and in need of replacement.

Weird, I've never not been able to tweak a 290 or 390 with MSI Afterburner under Windows 10. The only card that was stubborn was a Sapphire 380 (no voltage controls). If Linux works who cares, probably a better solution anyway!

I can get them all to go up on clockspeed, but only a few (such as reference 290s) will go down. Some resist volt mods until after they have been flashed to a modded BIOS. Fan speeds are manipulable on all of them.

Downside to Linux is that there is no voltage control there except maybe using the controls in Claymore. Maybe.

FYI to all here using Radeons.

The latest AMD beta driver works just fine with Claymore miner. I'm mining at full speed under Windows 10 on my new 290 build with 3 out of 5 cards so far. This is good news as it probably means we'll have Polaris working at launch

Wow. Must try that this weekend!

Okay, now for a semi-final report on ethminer vs Claymore vs Genoil:

ethminer + eth-proxy farm recheck 3000: ~45 MH/s (ouch)
ethminer + eth-proxy farm recheck 1000: ~50 MH/s
Claymore: ~49.7 MH/s (this is 51.8 MH/s, minus 2.2 * .99 projected hashrate for the 7700k)
Genoil ethminer + eth-proxy: ~54.7 MH/s (yowza)

So um, after a 24-hour run, nanopool.org is reporting Genoil's fork of ethminer to be the winner. Claymore wins on features. I'm not sure what to make of the Genoil results. They're pretty sweet though.

I'm using Genoil right now on my Linux machines, and so far it appears to be pretty stable, despite the fact that it doesn't have snazzy restart-after-failure features like Claymore. But it does have failover support, I think?
 

reb0rn

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Hashrate @pool after 24h mean nothing!
Mining a hash is pure LUCK, reported pool hash is also pure luck, you need to have 100x more hash power and mine a week to get it right!
 

MrTeal

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Hashrate @pool after 24h mean nothing!
Mining a hash is pure LUCK, reported pool hash is also pure luck, you need to have 100x more hash power and mine a week to get it right!

Yeah, short term averages are tough to use. Even across all my rigs I generally average +/-2% day to day. A rig with only a couple cards that might average 60MH/s can very +/-% day to day on the same pool.
 

DrMrLordX

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Nice, thank you for doing that. I haven't tried Genoil's fork yet.

No problem. Though I have to report that 16.6.1 was a failure for me. I updated to that driver and immediately lost ~4 MH/s on the Genoil and Claymore miners. Urgh.

Hashrate @pool after 24h mean nothing!
Mining a hash is pure LUCK, reported pool hash is also pure luck, you need to have 100x more hash power and mine a week to get it right!

. . . okay. So I need 200 r9 290s running at identical settings to get a reliable average? Sorry, not gonna happen even in my wildest dreams.
 

Madpacket

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No problem. Though I have to report that 16.6.1 was a failure for me. I updated to that driver and immediately lost ~4 MH/s on the Genoil and Claymore miners. Urgh.



. . . okay. So I need 200 r9 290s running at identical settings to get a reliable average? Sorry, not gonna happen even in my wildest dreams.

You don't need 200 miners. To judge better accuracy you would need to be on a more populated mining pool with lots of miners like Dwarfpool. These pools have less swings due to volume so it's easier to judge in a shorter period of time.

Alternatively you need to run for a period of a few weeks to get a more accurate result. That's why I was hesitant to comment about Claymore when I first switched. Even with my hashing rates being relatively high I waited a few weeks before confirming it is in fact better than the stock miner.

That's weird your hashing rates went down. Given the issues you have I would run a clean removal of the Radeon drivers using DDU in safe mode and then reinstall.

I also noticed with the latest beta drivers MSI Afterburner is behaving a little better when setting memory clocks, at least on my MSI 390.

I'm using Windows 10 though, are you using an older OS?

And thanks for testing Genoil out. Probably worth it for me to switch 1/3rd of my mining power of to it to see if it can keep up with Claymore. I hate paying that 1% even though I would totally charge the same if I had the chops to make something like Claymore
 
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Madpacket

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Thanks for taking the time providing the link and writeup. I will check this out later on

No problem. Also make sure to set your virtual memory size to a static 16384MB if you're running more than one card or have 4GB of RAM or less.
 

Madpacket

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Yeah, wasn't worried about it being a virus - was more concerned about it stopping the process and quarantining the files last night.

Windows Defender.

What's weird is Windows Defender hasn't flagged any of my Claymore instances (yet). Perhaps only a specific version is being flagged? Maybe try a slightly older or newer version or just whitelist it..
 

Madpacket

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I apologize for what is likely a very noob question, but, once I create a wallet here, how do I begin the actual mining process with something like ethminer? I need to point it to the wallet I created at MyEtherWallet right? I tried to research myself, but there are tons of guides for different things.

Also this should go without saying but please please please backup your encrypted and strongly password protected wallet file. Keep a copy of it at home and one with a trusted friend or family.

When you get the hang of this and if you buy / generate a decent sum of Ether you'll want to create and store it in a muliti signature contract wallet for the best protection. Don't worry about it for now, just flag it for later
 

Shmee

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Will claymore miner work on suprnova.cc?
 

Shmee

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Also, Avast reports malware. Is this safe/false positive? Got it from the mega link.
 

Feld

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Will claymore miner work on suprnova.cc?
I haven't tried but yes it should work. Claymore is supposed to work with any pool that supports stratum protocol, and the suprnova page indicates stratum is supported on ports 3000 and 3030.
 

Feld

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Also, Avast reports malware. Is this safe/false positive? Got it from the mega link.
I've been running version 4.2 for a month with no issues and it passes my ESET antivirus scan, but I just checked and all the newer versions do set it off. Most likely a false positive.
 

MrTeal

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Well, one of the four refurb Sapphire 290s I got from Newegg is no good. It pretty much immediately goes up to 94C even with 100% fan. Now I have to decide what to do about it. I could ghetto water it, but that's kind of a pain to do with high density mining.
 

Madpacket

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Well, one of the four refurb Sapphire 290s I got from Newegg is no good. It pretty much immediately goes up to 94C even with 100% fan. Now I have to decide what to do about it. I could ghetto water it, but that's kind of a pain to do with high density mining.

I opened my 4th card last night and got lucky with a 80% ASIC but with Elpedia , however it runs with a lower default voltage which is great.

4 out of 5 290's tested so far and none exhibit the problem of dried out paste. Some are better then others and I'm sure a repaste on at least one of the cards would bring temps down but I've been able to maintain just under 90C on the worst card while mining 29-30Mh for extended periods of time using a 60% fan speed with no external fan blowing fresh air. More importantly the VRM's still run cool on the card so no big deal. I imagine after proper setup in the crate with a fan feeding fresh air these cards at a 65% fan speed will stay closer to 80C while mining. Completely acceptable to me.

I'll test out the last card tonight and then the rig will be put together.

FYI at least from Newegg.ca the cards have a standard return policy so if you have Premiere you should be able to freely ship back your defective unit and get back money or swap for another one, or even just keep credit and put it towards a Polaris. I wouldn't have ordered these if they had some silly "final sale only" attached to them.
 

Madpacket

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Yup that would be my guess. It almost feels like these refurbs were 2014 models they were planning to throw away before mining became a thing.

Doubt it. Mining was already big before 2014 and that's a lot of inventory to sit on and money to waste by just throwing them out. The blower fans look (and sound) brand new on them. All but one of my cards brand look new, only one has minor scratches. At the very least I think it's very likely they replaced the fans and probably just messed up or missed repasting some of them.

Edit:

Oh and I ran these at 100% fan speed for an hour (so painfully loud!) ensuring the fans work properly. Thankfully none exhibit any of the typical noises a faulty blower fan makes.
 
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poofyhairguy

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Doubt it. Mining was already big before 2014 and that's a lot of inventory to sit on and money to waste by just throwing them out. The blower fans look (and sound) brand new on them. All but one of my cards look brand new, only one has minor scratches. At the very least I think it's very likely they replaced the fans and probably just messed up or missed repasting some of them.



Good call.
 
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